Transgender Actor Asserts Existence of ‘Biologically Female Penis’

a reply to: AProudLefty

However, Baker's sample of participants was only about 150 people which means a larger sample would be needed for conclusive results.

I followed the links from your article provided. There was a lot of babble but no data points to examine. Nothing really that definitive, even according to the ones that did the "study". Of course, they acknowledged that more $tudies need to be done, especially regarding hormones during puberty.

a reply to: queenofswords

I said it was one example. I picked one out of random to debunk the poster's claim that there's no evidence of what he called "brain gender".

a reply to: AProudLefty

There's still no definitive evidence from what I am reading. There is a lot of babble and speculative interpretation, but no real data showing actual evidence. They're trying real hard though to convince people. More $tudie$ are needed, as they keep $aying.

a reply to: queenofswords

Perhaps this one is more to your liking?
globalnews.ca...

And LOL at your implication that they are lying for more money. I guess many peer scientists are in on it.

a reply to: AProudLefty

Yes there is. One example here: www.sciencedaily.com...

Actually, the totality is much more nuanced than you seem to believe. As I understand it, in the case of men who identify as females, there is a marked difference between the brains of transgender and non-transgender men; thus representing a range or spectrum in the male experience. It really does not transfer to "laydee brain." In addition, among the transgender men, there is a distinct difference between homosexuals and heterosexuals, with homosexuals being "less" male so to speak, and heterosexuals being even "more" male so to speak. Again, representing a range or spectrum within the male experience, but not transferring to "laydee brain." And, perhaps most important, the areas measured are more likely an indication of how an individuals inherent nature will reconcile with environmental factors; in this case, society's gender stereotypes, expectations and biases.

Your assertion alone shows that you have no clue what you are talking about.

Um... yeah... that's it.

As to the last one, thank you for clarifying. I've never heard of any transgender people being afraid to identify as transgender people or being called one. You'll have to give examples.

I haven't dug into all the studies for a while, so I might have it a little mixed up, and there might be more/better research these days... but I doubt it, because Trans Activists have pretty much shut down any/all research that doesn't fit their narrative and ideology.

I've never heard of any transgender people being afraid to identify as transgender people or being called one. You'll have to give examples.

You can find examples here -- Trans Activism: Hide Violence by Trans Women -- Arrest TERFs for Telling the Truth About Us -- and a whole lot more. Women especially are being persecuted by Trans Activists and often governments for distinguishing between women and trans women.

a reply to: Boadicea

At first you said there's no evidence, now you typed a long winded explanation contradicting your own claim.

And as to the link to your thread? I stopped reading after finding out that you used Dialy Mail as your source.

a reply to: AProudLefty

That's the same article, different "news" organization. You didn't present anything different.

And, yes, scientists and researchers actually may have $$$$ in mind when they say more $tudie$ are needed. It's not lying, it's just using leverage to extend a grant, acquire another one, or provide a reason to continue their project.

a reply to: AProudLefty

At first you said there's no evidence, now you typed a long winded explanation contradicting your own claim.

Oh dear... perhaps reading comprehension is a problem? Let me repeat myself:

...representing a range or spectrum within the male experience...

As evidenced by the transgender spectrum ranging from less male (for want of a better term) than a non-transgender man, to more male than a non-transgender man.

And, perhaps most important, the areas measured are more likely an indication of how an individual's inherent nature will reconcile with environmental factors; in this case, society's gender stereotypes, expectations and biases.

In other words, in accordance with the areas of the brain studied, it is not "brain gender," but it is a natural process of "nature vs nurture," with nature representing inherent qualities and nurture representing external factors, such as the norms, expectations and stereotypes imposed by society.

If the same individuals with the same inherent qualities that today lead them to identify as female were placed into an Amazonian society, in which female norms, expectations and stereotypes were of women as the dominant and aggressive gender, they would not be likely to identify as female, because it would be contrary to their inherent nature.

a reply to: Boadicea

My reading comprehension is just fine. You said there's no evidence. Then you just now said it's nature coupled with nurture. Of course there will always be external influence. So in other words, there is evidence that the brain structure reflects the gender they identify as.

such as the norms, expectations and stereotypes imposed by society.

That is called gender roles.

Those with mental disorders define their own reality.

a reply to: AProudLefty

That is called gender roles.

Exactly. Gender roles, not brain gender. Stereotypes, not inherent. Subjective, not objective. Belief, not science.

And these roles and stereotypes can be embraced or defied, accepted or rejected.

a reply to: Boadicea

I have previously read some of your posts, and just skimmed over some of the content highlighted. I respect your opinion and appreciate the time and effort you have put into your posts, formating and content.

Trans people suffer a lot more abuses physically and mentally. In comparsion to the cases recorded of abuses preformed by trans people. Statistically this is hard to verify as they are ashamed to report abuses. Many are driven into sex work, sub standard employment and consitantly abused due to societies lack of acceptance. Especialy in "third world" and fundamental countries. In Uganda, Nigeria west Africa, the Middle East etc. they are driven out as refugees and kiled by Islamic/ Christian fundamentalist daily, sometimes their bodies, raped and mutilated then put on show to the public. But western media does not report that.

Previously I posted that a third sex could be a happy medium so gender lines are not blurred and some level of acceptance could be achieved. Within any tribe/group their are going to be non conformist to societies legal and social framework. So a third sex will only work for those willing to fit into that box.

Statistically many more children are abused physically by members of theological congregations, also scarred mentally from indoctrination. Brainwashed too not formulate their own opinions until later in life. Living in the closet, "pretending to be someone they are not" ring a bell.. This causes much more longterm harm to the community and occurs at a higer frequency than children or women abused by trans people.

a reply to: aliensanonymous

I won't minimize anyone's suffering... especially at someone else's hands. Neither will I minimize anyone's abuse of others. Nor will I pretend to quantify either, because I know that information is not available, because it has not been compiled.

However, there is absolutely no doubt that many transgender persons suffer abuse, but there is also absolutely no doubt that many transgender persons inflict abuse on anyone and everyone, including their fellow transgenders.

It's just reckless and unconscionable to pretend that we do not know exactly which transgender persons are most likely to abuse others (autogynephiles) and which transgender persons are most likely to suffer abuse from others (homosexuals).

So I have the utmost sympathy and empathy and concern for those being abused, not so much for those doing the abusing. If you really care about the nonviolent transgender community, then I strongly suggest you educate yourself about those within the community who are quite violent and abusive.

edit on 22-2-2019 by Boadicea because: qualify to quantify