Bernie Sanders Enters 2020 Presidential Campaign

originally posted by: carewemust
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originally posted by: shooterbrody
a reply to: CriticalStinker

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Sanders pointed to the Democratic Party's leftward shift as a reason for a second run. "It turns out that many of the ideas that I talked about – that health care is a right, not a privilege, and that we've got to move toward a Medicare-for-all, single-payer system: very, very popular. The idea that we have got to raise the minimum wage to $15 an hour," he told Vermont Public Radio. "When I talked about making public colleges and universities tuition-free and lowering student debt, that was another issue that people said was too radical. Well, that's also happening around the country."

IMO that is exactly how BERNIE is going to frame it.
Trump will make the socialist candidate into this generations Walter " Fritz" Mondale.
Nobody that actually works and pays taxes wants socialism.

They all want to be anti-social and ruled by a demagogue?

originally posted by: pexx421
He raised 4 million the first day, putting him more than twice the next highest dem candidate on day 1, kemala Harris. So seems he still has some supporters. Also his average contribution was $27, all from individuals. The msm is already starting their negative campaign against him, just like they did with him and trump last time, to attempt to paint him as unelectable. They said that about them both last time too. He’s practically the poorest long term politician in office, is the only real anti establishment candidate, and is arguably the only person in elected government who is both honest and a decent human being. My thoughts.

I think he is honest and decent too, but just believe most of the people who vote get caught up on buzzwords and phrases and dont get to know a candidate. It's not going to change this go around, plus think lots of voters are more worried by appearances and age than actual substance. We shall see LOL stranger things have happened. Just see them pushing a woman minority who is younger to appeal to their core demographic base.

a reply to: chr0naut

Well, I was amazed that Bernie didn't pull any punches when he said: “We are running against a president who is a pathological liar, a fraud, a racist, a sexist, a xenophobe and someone who is undermining American democracy as he leads us in an authoritarian direction.”

Although I would agree, there are many who would try and excuse Trump.

He said "We are running against a president who is", I think Bernie should have said "I think he is, instead of he is".

I don't make excuses for people, but I liked Bernie as a person for being one of the few candidates last cycle who refrained from personal attacks and instead talked and debated policy.

Pathalogical liar- almost all our politicians, fraud- In business, but he got elected, so it is what it is, sexist- maybe more misogynist, but he actually put women in the top ranks in his company back in the 80's and was applauded for it, xenophobic-his wife is foreign...

My point is, these topics are up for debate, the truth probably lies somewhere in the middle, both sides having validity. I'm not defending Trump, merely playing devils advocate.

I don't like when people speak in absolutes, selling me their opinion as fact.

I'm pretty sure that if the Democrats hadn't shafted him, and instead gone with Hillary, there might well have been a different outcome to the 2016 election.

Agreed, though I don't think he'll do well this time. Age is not on his side... I think his best bet would be going on Tulsi Gabbards ticket as VP....

That is the most powerful democratic ticket I could think of.

a reply to: putnam6
If he were really honest, he would stop pretending that he’s anything but a straight up communist. He and his followers keep trying that whole “democratic socialist” framework to obfuscate what he really is and is about. Because as Lenin says, communism is the goal of socialism.

originally posted by: ThirdEyeofHorus
a reply to: putnam6
If he were really honest, he would stop pretending that he’s anything but a straight up communist. He and his followers keep trying that whole “democratic socialist” framework to obfuscate what he really is and is about. Because as Lenin says, communism is the goal of socialism.

LOL I know that LOL, guess that where I'm coming from he is honest about his thoughts, he is a decent man too, it doesn't make him right nor does it make him electable, forget that most Americans aren't going socialist anytime soon, and it wouldn't work if we did. My concerns are quitting this back and forth swing left swing right, let's find something in the middle.

If he gets elected, they'll have to investigate his ties to the former Soviet Union. err, Russia.

He used to have a soviet flag that covered a whole wall of his office when he was mayor of Burlington, VT.

I think it had flown over the Kremlin or something.

And he and his bride honeymooned in Nicaragua, during the Daniel Ortega Regime.... He went there to complain of the anti-communist Contras, and show support for "the humanity" of the Communist Nicaraguan Regime, being funded by the USSR.

He's an old-line Red, the kind who got black-balled during the House Un-American Activities Committee hearings....

originally posted by: tabularosa
Bernie Sanders is America's best bet for leading change to get us out of the quagmire we face today. He is going to get serious pushback from the wealthy because he wants a better America for everyone, whereas they want a better America for only themselves. I realize that many of you will resist Bernie and not even hear him out as a result, but I implore you to at least see what he stands for. His platform is far reaching and readily achievable. He actually has detailed plans on most issues already. The problem in America is not that we do not have the will to make change, but that the de facto two party system lead by alt-right Republicans and neoliberal corporate Democrats keep the people divided. We are weak divided. Take a serious look at what Bernie stands for and think about those issues, how they might affect your family and friends. His proposals are called left, socialist, etc.; yet the majority (over 60% of people of all party affiliations) want these things. That makes his proposals mainstream, not left. But, most importantly, Bernie has espoused these ideas consistently throughout his political career, for decades. He believes in them, and is not just making these proposals for political expediency. In other words, he will follow up his campaign promises with action, whereas all other candidates will make similar claims but sell out if elected. That's what happens time after time, and why the people keep losing time after time. Please don't let the wealthy continue screwing us. I'm sick of it. I ain't no whipping boy.

I have heard him out and his platform is only achievable if you want to destroy the nations economy and want to make it a hell hole.

He is pushing fairy tales about how the rich can be drained and everyone can get free crap. It's absolute nonsense.

It has been tried countless times and it has never worked and it never will, because people are selfish, and they are not equal in talent and ambition. Wishing and hoping for something, or feeling moved by a speech about how things should be has nothing to do with reality.

Again what people want and what is actually possible are two very different things. If you are voting for what you want vs what is economically possible you are not a responsible voter - voting has real consequences.

originally posted by: putnam6

originally posted by: ThirdEyeofHorus
a reply to: putnam6
If he were really honest, he would stop pretending that he’s anything but a straight up communist. He and his followers keep trying that whole “democratic socialist” framework to obfuscate what he really is and is about. Because as Lenin says, communism is the goal of socialism.

LOL I know that LOL, guess that where I'm coming from he is honest about his thoughts, he is a decent man too, it doesn't make him right nor does it make him electable, forget that most Americans aren't going socialist anytime soon, and it wouldn't work if we did. My concerns are quitting this back and forth swing left swing right, let's find something in the middle.

But he isn’t being honest either about being a democratic socialist and not a communist or about things like his health care plan. I just hear Mark Levin blast that to kingdom come where Sanders claims we would be able to keep our doctors, and here’s exactly the same thing Levin said in a Washington Examiner article. www.google.com... lthcare-plan%3f_amp=true

a reply to: CriticalStinker

Bernie Sanders is selling more lies than the DNC has done for over the entirety of it's existence...
He has also stated to want to ban all weapons, supposedly with the exception of hunting rifles (but i don't believe his claim.)

When he was asked about the banning of firearms in an interview his first reaction was to say he wanted to BAN ALL GUNS... He then paused and changed his rhetoric by claiming "except hunting rifles."

He also wants to be the one who decides who controls the Federal Reserve, as he will nominate those who should be chosen.

Bernie Sanders, the ignorant AOC, etc, are all socialists, and socialism aims at stopping all political opposition by any means necessary.

The meaning of peace is the absence of opposition to socialism. Karl Marx

Read more at: www.brainyquote.com...

Under socialism all power goes to the executive branch. There is no check and balances under socialism, which is why every nation that has embraced socialism completely have become authoritarian regimes.

originally posted by: ThirdEyeofHorus

originally posted by: putnam6

originally posted by: ThirdEyeofHorus
a reply to: putnam6
If he were really honest, he would stop pretending that he’s anything but a straight up communist. He and his followers keep trying that whole “democratic socialist” framework to obfuscate what he really is and is about. Because as Lenin says, communism is the goal of socialism.

LOL I know that LOL, guess that where I'm coming from he is honest about his thoughts, he is a decent man too, it doesn't make him right nor does it make him electable, forget that most Americans aren't going socialist anytime soon, and it wouldn't work if we did. My concerns are quitting this back and forth swing left swing right, let's find something in the middle.

But he isn’t being honest either about being a democratic socialist and not a communist or about things like his health care plan. I just hear Mark Levin blast that to kingdom come where Sanders claims we would be able to keep our doctors, and here’s exactly the same thing Levin said in a Washington Examiner article. www.google.com... lthcare-plan%3f_amp=true

I hear you but really dont need to hear too much cause I wouldn't be voting for him anyway. Like I said think he is unelectable for a number of reasons deep down the DNC believe it too. He will play a part but in the end the nomination will go elsewhere.

I remember last election cycle when a lot of my friends were supporting Bernie, and I asked each one of them why I should vote for him. Not a single one had a single word to say. That's Bernie supporters, I guess. Literally silence. I even said "I want to vote for him but I need to know a reason" and nothing.

Obviously, I will not be voting for Mr. Sanders. The hive mentality behind him without logic is what is frightening.

Dems hate the rich.
Dems hate white men.
Dems hate old people.

Good luck Bernie! hahaha

a reply to: jjkenobi

I guess he's not invited to watch Captain Marvel either...

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a reply to: sine.nomine

Bernie Sanders On The Issues

In opposition to a hive mentality; here are his stances on the issues. I don't agree with all of them, but strongly agree with more than half of them. Good hunting!

originally posted by: Gumerk
a reply to: sine.nomine

Bernie Sanders On The Issues

In opposition to a hive mentality; here are his stances on the issues. I don't agree with all of them, but strongly agree with more than half of them. Good hunting!

This is the real Bernie Sanders, Communist Revolutionary for Latin America..... You apparently want communism..... In the words of Sarah Palin.... thanks but no thanks

www.youtube.com...
And by the way, your link is as if Obama is still Prezzy

originally posted by: Gumerk
a reply to: sine.nomine

Bernie Sanders On The Issues

In opposition to a hive mentality; here are his stances on the issues. I don't agree with all of them, but strongly agree with more than half of them. Good hunting!

Oh, I have since read up quite a bit on Mr. Sanders. I know his positions. Like I said, I won't be voting for him. The thing that frightens me is the blind support he has from people who know nothing about his platform. Or what it would take to accomplish his platform.

Former Bernie supporter here and I do mean, former. When he bent over and took it from HRC and the DNC I lost my enthusiasm for the old Commie hack.

That ship has sailed old man.

And most Bernie supporters feel exactly the same as I do.

originally posted by: toolgal462
Former Bernie supporter here and I do mean, former. When he bent over and took it from HRC and the DNC I lost my enthusiasm for the old Commie hack.

That ship has sailed old man.

And most Bernie supporters feel exactly the same as I do.

Ok so you didn't have any problem with his communism....

a reply to: Xcalibur254
Oh please tell me, this should be interesting. If none of us ever vote, who exactly will be putting up the candidates??? To be frank, you are below a whiner. You just using the excuse of bad candidates so you do not have to make the feeble effort of going to a polling station or researching the list of candidates sent with your mail in ballot. Oh I have mett en thousand of you, never vote, but always have a complaint no matter. I suspect your even the type that complains about their employer when they get free stuff or food, because it was not what you wanted specifically, but still I dulge in the free stuff!

Why I bet, when it's sunny outside after a period of darkness and rain, you step and go "naw, mosquitoes! Why can't life just be perfect"?? Does a one legged duck swim in a circle?? You have no say, you are not even a number at this point. When you choose to not participate, you may as well not even exist.

Grow up, be more mature, and vote for what's available. There is a write in option. If you put the name of someone who ran, even without a chance, it gets officially recorded And that candidate will at least have a more realistic accurate guage of their support level. But they would never know because thousands want to use bad candidates as an ex use, and the legit candidates get discouraged and quit because nobody could even make the pitiful attempt to at the very least, write in a name.

Absolutely pathetic that level of excuse making is. Whatever though, does not seem like you will vote Trump, so by all means, please sit out for 2020 and refrain from giving +1 to 'Not Trump'.
Your lack of participation will fill me with Glee 🤗