If aliens came and

originally posted by: Xtrozero
To be honest, I think space travel is limited to lifeforms due to the one thing that really screws with life, time. It take a lot of time to do anything and even species in general are very short lived because of evolutionary changes and external influences always happening even though life continues. Think of humans 500k years ago as example.

Due to this I would say that if we have been visited it would be by self replicating machines. This is one thing that can beat time itself with basically forever to explore the universe as machines continually gathering data for billions of years for maybe a race long gone. Vast majority of all UFOs do not look like they would have lifeforms on board and this could explain that quite easily. For life to travel I would think it would be in the form of interstellar ark starship that is manned by generations going only from point a to b to colonize other planets that machines already visited, and not so much zooming around exploring as machine would do.

to go faster than light you simply need to bend the rules by disabling gravitys pull on your atoms as well as your craft. gravity is universal and effects light as well. negate the pull and essentially you will eventually reach past C. Its one of those tricks the RK's use. its not anti gravity so much as mass negation by shielding it from gravity. even fuel.

a reply to: yuppa

"to go faster than light you simply need to bend the rules by disabling gravitys pull on your atoms as well as your craft."

And yet here we are in 2018 still predominantly dependant on fossil fuels and internal combustion engines.

If it was ""simply"" we would be doing it.

So i simply ask, why are we not?

originally posted by: mysterioustranger
Public Broadcasting Station(s) in all 50+ states. Educational

Still, not a real historical source.

originally posted by: yuppa


to go faster than light you simply need to bend the rules by disabling gravitys pull on your atoms as well as your craft. gravity is universal and effects light as well. negate the pull and essentially you will eventually reach past C. Its one of those tricks the RK's use. its not anti gravity so much as mass negation by shielding it from gravity. even fuel.

Easy to say, not easy to do, but once again the UFOs are typically small and we really do not have out in the open contact that we explain away as "Government Cover up" I don't see cover up and they could just be machines doing what they been told for a very long time of collecting data.

We can what if all day, but in the end we don't have anything...Just like when Star Trek invented the transporter to get around quicker it was a neat idea, but then we are talking...

Just the genetic information a single human cell, not the positions of the atoms, just the gene sequences, together with a "brain state" would take 4,850 trillion years assuming a 30 gigahertz microwave bandwidth, and 300 megatons of energy to turn the matter into energy...

"Simply need"... might not be the best way to describe any of this.

originally posted by: andy06shake
a reply to: yuppa

"to go faster than light you simply need to bend the rules by disabling gravitys pull on your atoms as well as your craft."

And yet here we are in 2018 still predominantly dependant on fossil fuels and internal combustion engines.

If it was ""simply"" we would be doing it.

So i simply ask, why are we not?

We have but its not public stuff. you already know this. 2036 rolls around look up round midnight for a show new years eve. The reason is the people who control this world do not want their Slaves to be free from their control. IF you can get free then its simple to do.

a reply to: Xtrozero

No what if about it. we can,but the powers that be will not allow it.

originally posted by: yuppa


No what if about it. we can,but the powers that be will not allow it.

Ah yes.... Government cover up...

originally posted by: Xtrozero

originally posted by: yuppa


No what if about it. we can,but the powers that be will not allow it.

Ah yes.... Government cover up...

didnt say that did i? Its not a cover up if they dont acknowledge it. They simply deny its existence as a joke and fantasy. always the best place to hide things that are actually true.

originally posted by: yuppa


didnt say that did i? Its not a cover up if they dont acknowledge it. They simply deny its existence as a joke and fantasy. always the best place to hide things that are actually true.

But then where are the aliens...

They could have been side by side us out in the open for 1000s of years... We are still stuck in something that is not even at the "first kind" of encounters. Not something we can debate since you can not provide anything outside of sightings of some level. My question to you is how would they cover this all up lets say 1800s 1700s 1200s, or did it all start in 1940s?

Humans are very open to coddling different creatures.

But to see a true extra terrestrial is something different. Our bodies may physically not be able to handle the shock.

We can all be tough and not scare easy, but to feel a true stage of fright is hard to handle

a reply to: Bloodworth

The human mind projects reality from prior experience.
Perhaps there would be some contemplation of prior ghost phenomena that would reorient or reshuffle their memories?

a reply to: yuppa

"The reason is the people who control this world do not want their Slaves to be free from their control. IF you can get free then its simple to do."

Then i have to ask why the people who run this world would wish to stay here with us slaves when the universe could be there playground, as well as our own, should indeed FTL antigravity technology be a viable prospect.

Seems to me "They" are as confined to this rock as the rest of us, and if not "They" sure manage to keep it quiet, quite literally.

a reply to: watchandwait410

the better question is , will we manage to make peace with them , humans dont like things they dont understand and we often are aggressive towards perceived differences!

any advanced civilisation would send a probe first to collect data about our solar system and our host star , then they'd likely carry out a detailed survey of the system.
If they can send probes then they'd also likely have a decent communication system to get the data quickly over large distances.
If we were discovered then we'd be observed I dont think they'd intertact with us directly until we had reached a level of harmony with our homeworld and with each other.

a reply to: sapien82

We can't make peace with our selfs nevermind a species from another planet or dimension.

So i would not hold your breath in that dept.

Chances are some will want to hunt it, some will wonder what it tastes like, others are going to want to four letter word it. Then there are the religious nutters who will with to burn them in the name of God.

originally posted by: andy06shake
Chances are some will want to hunt it, some will wonder what it tastes like, others are going to want to four letter word it. Then there are the religious nutters who will with to burn them in the name of God.

Or see it as an opportunity to convert them and save them from their alien heathen ways.

I've seen a UFO once when i was a kid, around 1994/5 broad daylight in the summer. It was a black cube that was flying really slowly pretty high up in the air. I didn't even know what a ufo was back then but i remember thinking what i was seeing was very weird, you know like when you get that feeling that something is just off?

Being kids we decided it was a building block that somebody threw too high in the sky that it wouldn't come back down again and carried on as it flew off in the distance.

a reply to: Blue Shift

Well i see what you mean, after all those ways that allow them to cross the vast distances between the stars or breach the dimensional boundaries must be downright sinful.

The fact of the matter is when they do turn up it will obviously be to be baptized.

I mean why else would they bother to visit?

originally posted by: Xabi87
Being kids we decided it was a building block that somebody threw too high in the sky that it wouldn't come back down again and carried on as it flew off in the distance.

That's as good a theory as any.

It would be like the second coming of Christ and unto the father in heaven(good scenario), or kingdom come, everyone dies and the earth becomes green again.

a reply to: Blue Shift

I actually never thought about it again until about a year back when i was reading an askreddit thread, someone posted a very similar experience and i was like "hmmm... that was no building block".