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Originally posted by Census
So...He knows nothing cause...ahhh....you said so? Well that clears things up!! Thanks bud...I guess I owe you one then.
Originally posted by Dr Love
Don't just watch the little snippets showing each astronaut, watch the whole unedited version, you know the one showing the astronaut putting a transparent slide over the window to simulate that they were closer to the moon than they really were.
Oh, and listen to CNN's little snipet on the Van Allen belt's effects being worse than previously thought.
Who cares what Bart Sibrel thinks? Watch the WHOLE video. It has nothing to do with Bart Sibrel. Let's leave that loser out of it.
Oh, and can someone lead me to which page in this massive thread where that video has been debunked, or was it debunked because Bart Sibrel is such a "jackass"?. This oughta be a real hoot.
You're telling me that you didn't see the astronaut pull the slide off the window? Agent, if you can't plainly see that without my having to spoonfeed you then I can't help you.
Originally posted by Looter
The Saturn rocket was real, but the Lunar lander went to the Moon with no people aboard while the Command module stayed in Low Earth Orbit.
They dont appreciate how primitive technology was back then, actually it was a whole different technology, analog.
Originally posted by Looter
The problem is since the believers have never been to the Moon they have no idea what its like there or what would be involved in really going there. Thus they are free to believe whatever they are told with no chance of being contradicted by the facts on the ground since they can't actually fly to the Moon, now or 35 years ago.
All the while the real space program is going on over your head, have you noticed nothing ever happens, they spend years in Space and it's all maintenance, one EVA every few months. Peaceful and quiet, thats the way they like it, no problems.
They were fooled by bunch of Lunar meteorites and movie special effects.
The Saturn rocket was real, but the Lunar lander went to the Moon with no people aboard while the Command module stayed in Low Earth Orbit.
Thats as high as they can fly even now, Gemini went up a thousand miles and they have never been back.
They dont appreciate how primitive technology was back then, actually it was a whole different technology, analog.
Thats the problem, whatever happened to Moon landings and all the promise space had?
Originally posted by pepsi78
it never hapend , they would of been baked on the moon.
quote: They dont appreciate how primitive technology was back then, actually it was a whole different technology, analog.
Perhaps it's you that underestimates the technology from back then. People were capable of doing amazing things without computers or even calculators.
quote: Thats the problem, whatever happened to Moon landings and all the promise space had?
Originally posted by pepsi78
it never hapend , they would of been baked on the moon.
Originally posted by pepsi78
Read the posts that are in this thread and you will see, I dont want to go over it again, take a telescope that you can see gamma radiation with and look with it on the moon. Now change it's position and look with it to the sun and see the difference.
There is lethal radiation on the moon, coming from 2 directions, the surface of the moon is radioactive it's self.
Aluminium tin foil is very weak against gamma radiation,
plus when they got out of the craft, nasa is asking them selfs how they can build a base on the moon when the radiation level is highly dangeros, it seams they cant see how it would work out and you wanted them to go on the moon with a saturn rocket, seriosly it never hapend.
With gamma rays turning in to neutron partycles but also gamma radiation when it hits the surface it will produce a spray
now think, how old is the moon?
with no atmosfer the moon is on constant bombardment from cosmic rays, which relise gamma radiation on impact with the body of the moon, because the proccess has been going for milion of years the moon surface it's self is radioactive.
They would of been tosted, ever seen a toster how it toasts bread? And they played golf up there, you got to be joking me I must say this is the most sarcastic hoax pulled by the US goverment.
Have you done that personally? There are no telescopes near me that can see Gamma rays, as far as I know. But I do seem to recall an image being posted here (or another forum) that showed an image of the moon and the Gamma radiation coming from it. I also seem to recall the image not saying how strong the radiation was.
What makes you say it's lethal? Just because it's gamma radiation? Do you have any numbers of the amount of radiation the astronauts recieved on the moon? If not, then it sounds like you just assume it was lethal and you know what they say about assumption.
Wait... "they got out of the craft", so now you're saying they went to the moon. And then you say, "you wanted them to go on the moon with a saturn rocket, seriosly it never hapend." So which is it? Do you think they went or not?
Perhaps some one can correct me if i'm wrong. I'm not an expert when it comes to radiation and particles and all that stuff, but I don't think gamma rays can turn into neutron particles. Also gamma rays can't really turn into gamma radiation.
Gamma is a wavelength of light that we cannot see with the naked eye. And light itself is radiation. Therefore gamma rays can't turn into gamma radiation, because it's the same thing. And you're not giving any numbers on the amount still.
Still not seeing any numbers here. You're still assuming that it's instantly lethal.
When galactic cosmic rays collide with particles in the lunar surface, they trigger little nuclear reactions that release yet more radiation in the form of neutrons. The lunar surface itself is radioactive!
Originally posted by pepsi78
Wait... "they got out of the craft", so now you're saying they went to the moon. And then you say, "you wanted them to go on the moon with a saturn rocket, seriosly it never hapend." So which is it? Do you think they went or not?
be realistic with your self please, no of course , they didint go,, why would I contradict science.
Cosmic rays are mainly nucleons of Hydrogen through Uranium (protons and neutrons of an atom are together called nucleons). It's estimated that only 1% of cosmic rays are electrons and positrons. Cosmic rays can have extremely high energies (up to 1020 eV or 10 Joules for a single particle).
kilorad (krad)
a common unit of radiation dose equal to 1000 rads, 10 grays, or 10 joules of energy per kilogram of mass
100 rads = 1 Joule/kg
0-50 rads - No obvious short-term effects
80-120 rads - You have a 10% chance of vomiting and experiencing nausia for a few days
130 -170 rads - You have a 25% chance of vomiting and contracting other symptoms
180-220 rads - You have a 50% chance of vomiting and having other severe physical effects
270-330 rads - 20% chance of death in 6 weeks, or you will recover in a few months.
400-500 rads - 50% chance of death
550-750 rads - Nausia within a few hours ; no survivors
> 1000 rads - immediate incapacitation and death within a week or less.
High energy charged particles from the cosmos, known as cosmic rays, constantly bombard the unprotected lunar surface generating gamma rays
Originally posted by pepsi78
1 that was a while ago, plus no one won in that argument plus I was not aware that nuclear reactions were persent on the moon surface.
What I was also not aware.
is the folowing factors.
www.windows.ucar.edu...
Cosmic rays are mainly nucleons of Hydrogen through Uranium (protons and neutrons of an atom are together called nucleons). It's estimated that only 1% of cosmic rays are electrons and positrons. Cosmic rays can have extremely high energies (up to 1020 eV or 10 Joules for a single particle).
So only 1 procent of them can produce x-rays, the rest of them are a mix of hidrogen and uranium.
1 particle=10 jules
let's see now.
www.unc.edu...
kilorad (krad)
a common unit of radiation dose equal to 1000 rads, 10 grays, or 10 joules of energy per kilogram of mass
Take a good look at this picture cause this is what it is.
a common unit of radiation dose equal to 1000 rads, 10 grays, or 10 joules of energy per kilogram of mass.
Originally posted by pepsi78
the joules mejure to Kg, that's how they mejure, you wont find any data converting joules in to rads with out killograms, it will only be done in kg, that is how the mejurment is done, because rads mejure the radiation on living tesue.
I'm sorry to say but you dont know how to accept defeat of the apolo mision.
I dont know how you dont belive it since one particle can produce on impact above 1000 electron volts, it's just the facts, if you try to deny them that is your busines.
sorry for my sucky english, when I am tierd I lose concetration .
You missed my point. Joules and Joules/kg are different. You got the info of 10 Joules from one site, and then magicly all of a sudden you have 10 Joules/kg. Sorry, it doesn't work like that.
1 joule of deposited energy per kilogram of tissue. Thus one gray is equal to 100 rad
I would believe the moon landing were fake if solid, factual information was provided. No one has come close yet, no not even you.
JRA wrote: (that shiny gold stuff isn't really a foil)
Originally posted by pepsi78
You missed my point. Joules and Joules/kg are different. You got the info of 10 Joules from one site, and then magicly all of a sudden you have 10 Joules/kg. Sorry, it doesn't work like that.
Aha I see, I see you say it's different , but I dont see any explenation of what differnece there is?
I would believe the moon landing were fake if solid, factual information was provided. No one has come close yet, no not even you.
this is solid proof, it makes sence, what did you think that the moon was a walk in the park, I dont see how it does not make sence, if it does not then debunk it, but this are lite words and do not disprove any of what I said at all.
the chart would be
Let's say a 1 kg pickle jar falls 1 meter to the floor. What is its energy?