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originally posted by: 83Liberty
originally posted by: OtherSideOfTheCoin
The only problem with that is that its going to totally screw over the little guys, like those 5000 folks working in the car factory down the road who wind up getting fired because the firm says its just easier now to do it all on the content....
Well those people at the car factories are not really the "little guys" are they? Maybe compared to the bankers yeah, but these car factory workers are paid quite well thank you, the average pay for a production operator at JLR (whom you were referring to) is just under £40k per year, which is massive!
The little guys are the small farmers, who because of the EU's Common Agricultural Policy, get paid per hectare, so it's the little farmers that lose out to the big farmers. Though, I do concede that the EU have improved their CAP scheme.
The little guys are the small-scale fishermen who have lost their jobs and livelihood (along with their community), because of the EU's Common Fisheries Policy.
There have been hundred's of thousands of jobs lost over the years because we're in the EU! These are the little guys, who have had no voice and no-one ever sticks up for them. When we leave the EU, some of the these jobs will become available again.
I would consider myself one the the "little guys", please tell me how I'm going to be screwed over and become directly poorer, when we leave the EU. Bear in mind I try to shop locally and mainly eat British made/produced foods.
originally posted by: eletheia
a reply to: 83Liberty
Every one going on about the small business in the UK that are going under
when the UK leaves the EU need to remember that it works both ways.
I was watching a news programme yesterday and a reporter was in a couple
of 'parts' factories in the EU (didn't catch which country) but the owners were
'worried' because around 50% of their business was done with the UK and they
weren't too sure how it would effect their business's.
Business's can't do business on their own, they need suppliers and markets
a mutual financial not political dependency?
originally posted by: ScepticScot
Well one way is that the cost off food is expected to rise post brexit. A factor that will impact the poorest in society the most.
originally posted by: 83Liberty
originally posted by: ScepticScot
Well one way is that the cost off food is expected to rise post brexit. A factor that will impact the poorest in society the most.
I agree that the food produced in the EU, COULD cost more, but it COULD also cost the same, if we get some sort of free-trade deal, which would benefit both the UK and EU.
And if we leave the EU we will then have the ability to make free-trade deals with other countries, which COULD make their imported food cheaper for us.
So it's not black and white like you seem.
originally posted by: and14263
a reply to: ScepticScot
Do you have any examples of this? Perhaps a source to some evidence?
I agree food purchased from inside the eu ‘could’ become more expensive, that is only a ‘could’ though because no agreements have been made.
But we would be free to ditch tariffs/levies on food from outside the eu. I could be specific but it would pull the debate in the wrong direction. (Oranges spring to mind, tariff imposed to protect Spanish farmers, remember though that is just one product and shouldn’t be the focus of debate).
I think if you claim food prices will definitely increase you should show some definitive proof.
originally posted by: and14263
a reply to: ScepticScot
No, no, sorry, my mistake, you said ‘is expected to rise’. Which is a completely respectable statement.
Sorry, I was illegally reading and replying whilst stuck in traffic.
originally posted by: eletheia
a reply to: 83Liberty
Every one going on about the small business in the UK that are going under
when the UK leaves the EU need to remember that it works both ways.
I was watching a news programme yesterday and a reporter was in a couple
of 'parts' factories in the EU (didn't catch which country) but the owners were
'worried' because around 50% of their business was done with the UK and they
weren't too sure how it would effect their business's.
Business's can't do business on their own, they need suppliers and markets
a mutual financial not political dependency?
originally posted by: and14263
I agree food purchased from inside the eu ‘could’ become more expensive, that is only a ‘could’ though because no agreements have been made.
originally posted by: alldaylong
Watching The BBC News last night, and they where reporting from a German Printing Company
The company do most of their business with The U.K. They are fearful that if a deal can't be struck, their company will have to close.
It is not " all one way traffic "
originally posted by: Dem0nc1eaner
a reply to: ScepticScot
Why is it, do you think, that the EU is at this present time our biggest trading partner?
Do you think, maybe, it is because we are in the EU?
What a redundant argument you put forth.
. . . winter sports and recreational tourism have very significant negative environmental and cultural impacts.
. . . much of this employment is in the form of low-skilled low-paying jobs that exceed the size of the local workforce. As a result, there is an influx of outside workers with the attendant challenges to housing and social support . . .