BREAKING: Migrants Breach Wall, Throw Rocks, Get Gassed Back To Mexico - Videos

originally posted by: OccamsRazor04
a reply to: hopenotfeariswhatweneed

I appreciate your acknowledgment the borders should be secured and these people kept out and not allowed to charge in.

That's just how it should be, I don't think people should be allowed to illegally force entry, they should go through the legal process like everyone has to.

a reply to: hopenotfeariswhatweneed

Common ground.

a reply to: RadioRobert

This is something that has not escaped my notice, but certainly continues to bewilder me.

a reply to: hopenotfeariswhatweneed

That and a more streamlined system. No one who is in good standing and needs asylum or refugee status should have to wait nearly as long as I did. But congress needs to get off their asses, secure the borders and all other access points, and stop playing politics with lives and livelihoods.

And just like in SA, the next step is - if you're white you stole the land.

There must be expropriation without compensation.

Yeah, watch your far-Left - it's coming.

Exactly the same strategy everywhere.

Taught to our kids!

a reply to: halfoldman

Ginsburg loves the SA constitution and thinks it superior to the US one.

a reply to: projectvxn

We need true reform, unlikely thought.

originally posted by: hopenotfeariswhatweneed

originally posted by: OccamsRazor04
a reply to: hopenotfeariswhatweneed

I appreciate your acknowledgment the borders should be secured and these people kept out and not allowed to charge in.

That's just how it should be, I don't think people should be allowed to illegally force entry, they should go through the legal process like everyone has to.

The President and his supporters think the same thing. Yet, somehow it’s ‘bigoted’?

a reply to: projectvxn

I don't hold much faith in our elected officials to get anything done swiftly and or competently, I also think they have more to gain keeping people in a state of limbo.

originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: JAY1980

originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: AtlasHawk
a reply to: chr0naut

The lessons we should learn from history have to be repeated for every new generation.

So what your saying that Europe and America should keep its borders open for so called migrants? whom which the majority of them are all men? and criminals? yeah sounds like a great idea and what a great idea of comparing whats happening to WW.

The majority are men but I doubt that the majority are criminals.

Look at the Honduran crime rates for your answer sport...

But surely the crime rate in the US is worse. The incarceration rate in the US is the highest in the world, bar none.

That is why we have a low crime rate.

The USA is the most culturally inhomogenous large nation in the World. That means its legal system has to accommodate all the 1000 or so different cultural outlooks that exist on morality. Or well,... come as close as it can.

There is no chance at all that you will ever devise a system of laws upon which all of those different systems of culturally determined morality can all simultaneously agree. Not perfectly, anyway. Every law you pass will probably be immoral from at least one culture's perspective (even rape and murder laws, from the perspective of some highly religious patro-centric groups.)


So illegal immigration is troubling because you want there to be some point in the immigration process where the immigrant says "I will put aside my own views about morality, and obey your laws even if I disagree with them."

I assure you a decent amount are fleeing the authorities rather than hardship. Your moral posturing doesn't work on us.

Did you know that Hitler accused the Jews of all being criminals and sexual degenerates. He sent children and young mothers with babies to the gas chambers. Well he had to apply the final solution evenhandedly, didn't he?

Of course you'd pull the Hitler card...

Hitler also accused Jews of conspiring with other nations, rigging elections, and blowing up the Reichstag.

Gee, the similarities just keep coming.

What's your point?

Do you not have a concept of national sovereignty?

This, coming from the US, is the ultimate in irony.

The US wanders from conflict to conflict, shoring up its own position and pretending to be the world police.

Where is the acknowledgement of the sovereignty of other nations in that?

Pot calls kettle black?

The USA has a big enough army, it *could* interfere a lot more than it does.

Do you want to roll the dice that some other country, invested with that much power, will excercise as much restraint in its application as the USA does?

China goes into Africa and outright bribes the leaders. Russia annexed Crimea from Ukraine, and has fought genocidal territorial wars in both Chechnya and Georgia attempting to annex land.

Who would you put in charge?

has the migrant marine corps finished it's assault on San Diego?

I heard it's important to the war effort, how are the coalition forces doing, do they need reinforcements?

GO TRUMP!!! MAGA!!!!

a reply to: shawmanfromny

Irresponsible Adults dragging their Kids into it. Who organized this Caravan anyways? Who told these people to bombard the borders of The United States? Why isn't the Governing force of their own Country taking any flack for this? If it's so bad in Honduras why hasn't the UN and Human Rights done anything about it?

a reply to: OccamsRazor04

True, they are still legally struggling with anti-white land-theft in SA, thanks to our negotiated constitution. Things don't always go their way. They are working on it tirelessly however.

Anyway, not to divert, but the demands the far-left make are pretty predictable.

I mean we saw exactly the same thing in Germany 2015.
That is until Hungary put a stop to it.

But you can see the attitude of these people.
Today the border; tomorrow your house.
It all belongs to us.

Not only that, but most of them have been indoctrinated with extreme hatred for whites - believe it or not.
But if they gain the power, it's goodnight USA.

originally posted by: Breakthestreak

originally posted by: hopenotfeariswhatweneed

originally posted by: OccamsRazor04
a reply to: hopenotfeariswhatweneed

I appreciate your acknowledgment the borders should be secured and these people kept out and not allowed to charge in.

That's just how it should be, I don't think people should be allowed to illegally force entry, they should go through the legal process like everyone has to.

The President and his supporters think the same thing. Yet, somehow it’s ‘bigoted’?

You are misunderstanding, I don't think anyone is arguing due process shouldn't be upheld, some of us myself including are arguing this is not invasion and there a processes in place to deal with these things, this whole send the military crap was a ploy to generate fear and votes through that fear. This migrant caravan is not the first nor will it be the last.

a reply to: hopenotfeariswhatweneed

What is it when walls are stormed and helicopters attacked?

invasion
NOUN

1.1 An incursion by a large number of people or things into a place or sphere of activity.

1.2 An unwelcome intrusion into another's domain.

Sounds about right.

originally posted by: hopenotfeariswhatweneed

originally posted by: Breakthestreak

originally posted by: hopenotfeariswhatweneed

originally posted by: OccamsRazor04
a reply to: hopenotfeariswhatweneed

I appreciate your acknowledgment the borders should be secured and these people kept out and not allowed to charge in.

That's just how it should be, I don't think people should be allowed to illegally force entry, they should go through the legal process like everyone has to.

The President and his supporters think the same thing. Yet, somehow it’s ‘bigoted’?

You are misunderstanding, I don't think anyone is arguing due process shouldn't be upheld, some of us myself including are arguing this is not invasion and there a processes in place to deal with these things, this whole send the military crap was a ploy to generate fear and votes through that fear. This migrant caravan is not the first nor will it be the last.

I agree.

But when the President and his supporters call for due process to be upheld (which is the very definition of being anti-illegal immigration) they are quickly condemned.

Hopefully due process is upheld.

a reply to: halfoldman

Many are. I live in a city with a very high black population. Whites are still the majority. My unit won't hire white leaders because the staff say white people will only look after white people.

My review which is a peer review is basically perfect, employee of the month, employee of the year, yet even though I am trained for the peer review team they refuse to let me conduct them and send black people who have not been trained which is against policy. And these are people who like me and say nothing but good things about me and still I am not allowed .. because I am white.

a reply to: OccamsRazor04

They are not getting in though are they, so the deterrents in place are working as they are intended.

originally posted by: Krakatoa
If true, this does not sound like peaceful people looking for asylum. Their actions are more like an invading force determined to break the border into the U.S.

Who was that famous man who spoke these words?:

"Ye shall know them by their fruits"

I would say the fruits these people are producing is evidence enough to know that they aren't exactly what cnn says they are. And im not even a trump supporter, just merely stating a fact. If they are throwing rocks, they can end up hurting someone who is at the end of it. Imagine if this was in your neighborhood.

I feel bad for those living in tijuana...

a reply to: hopenotfeariswhatweneed

Just because an invasion is repelled doesn't mean it's not an invasion. Had they peacefully gone to a port of entry and lawfully requested Asylum Trump would look a fool.

Instead these people tried force and proved Trump right, they are the definition of an invasion.