High school bans expensive jacket so poor kids don't feel bad

If we keep going this route monkeys will be in charge soon. Wait...

originally posted by: ketsuko
a reply to: DigginFoTroof

He mostly has Old Navy. Those go on sale regularly for around $13/pair and they wear like iron even on an active 8-year-old. Most of them survive to be donations.

And as I already explained, it's not about finding cheap. It's mainly about fit. Most places make their clothing like the typical couch potato cut. Our kid ain't a couch potato and he has my build. He's all up, no out.

I get what you mean about Old Navy's jeans fits. They're the only brand (affordable brand, anyway) that we've found for the older kid. She's always had Plumber's Crack Special going on since she was in diapers, those adorably plump little baby butts don't always disappear as a kid grows. Those are the only jeans cut right to fit properly around the waist and at the hips, and not sink/droop down to flash the world an eyeful of butt crack when she so much as inhales.

We have other brands we've tried for her, but it's a constant chorus of "PULL UP YOUR PANTS!" when she wears them. Even belts don't help much with those brands. She doesn't need to use belts with her Old Navy jeans at all.

Her sister's built much leaner, but can wear those same ill-fitting jeans a few years later and with the help of a belt, they sit just fine on her. Her specific problem is that shes very long-legged and tall, so most jeans that fit properly run way too short on her.
I think she's about to graduate to adult 0's or maybe 2's to compensate for that, I'm not quite sure which adult size she'll actually fit into yet, if she will at all without drowning in them. Either way, she'll put her belts to good use if one of those sizes fits. None of the Girls' Regulars, Slims or Pluses have the right happy medium for fit & length. The right length is always way too big, and the right fit is always way too short.

originally posted by: DigginFoTroof

originally posted by: ketsuko
a reply to: JinMI

Yeah, but this isn't a dress code.

This is saying, "Oh, that one item or brand is too expensive for some families to afford, so we don't think any of the kids should have one or wear it to school if they do."

That's more a line-item veto. Either go all-in on dress code or let kids wear whatever stupid things their parents buy so long they aren't letting T&A hang out or wearing profanity or things like that.

In our case, we can buy Lee's or Old Navy and sometimes DKNY jeans. Urban Pipeline is loose but do-able. He rips the knees right out of any self-respecting Walmart, JCPenney, or Target brand we've tried that fit, so we don't bother with them. Two of those four brands can be bought for under $20 a pair.

I try to balance cost with wear with what fits. No point in buying a cheap pair that he may only wear a half dozen times before they become summer cut-offs he can only really wear outside.

But if the schools decide to issue a list of cost approved jeans brands that they feel all their children can afford and none of my go-tos are on it?

People who claim that they can't find good quality clothing for cheap prices in just about any size are either too picky or too lazy to look. We've seen the quality of clothing, especially jeans and pants, go up by sizable amounts over the last 30+ years and the price has dropped A LOT for this good quality. Now they may not be name brand, but the knees don't "tear out" on the first wear. I just got rid of a pair of 20yr old jeans that were $50 and I wore them HARD over the years.

I found some really nice Carhartt pants and jeans for $35 and those things are made really well. IDK what else you could want other than some flashy label stamped or sewn on it. If that is what you need, then IDK what to say to you - but I know kids can have unrealistic desires that they don't understand.

Bull. See my response to Ket. Cheap jeans don't do it for everyone. My husband's best fitting & favorite jeans are Cross & Windsor. One pair happened to be in a Goodwill, and he gave them a try. Loved them, and we ended up having to order them from Boscov's because they're the only place that sells them. $15 bucks a pop is pretty damn good. Levi's, Wrangers, Arizonas, etc, none of those ever fit his frame very well.

I've tried countless jeans, and for me, Old Navy's happen to fit as well for me as they do for my older kid. I'm more than willing to sink the money on clothing that FITS, versus s# from Walmart or Target that doesn't. I've got a few pairs of Levis and Wranglers myself, but the fit is poor, and they are not comfortable because of the poor fit. I don't know what patterns they're using for sizing and shape, but they suck.

Likewise, "Londonfog coats" just won't do,
especially for Canadian winters.
How cold does it get in england anyways ?
It all depends too, where you buy them.
Third party retailers will obviously jack up the
prices.
Buying straight from the co. makes it reasonable,
and keep in mind the high exchange of
eng.pounds Vs. Canadian Loonie.
Canada-Goose coats

This week on Curb yo Privilege.

Oh for WTF. Banning jackets in schools because poorer families cant afford them? whats next ban video games that are bad?

originally posted by: JAGStorm
a reply to: diggindirt

But schools telling what BRANDS of clothing to wear is ridiculous!

Yes this is what i'm getting at. If you have a dress code, have a dress code, not a price/brand code.

What if the parents buy their kids an expensive car, are they not allowed to drive it to school because others feel bad.
I am saying this, and as a kid my parents did not buy these types of expensive things for me, but I do not feel it is the schools place to tell parents what they can spend on their kid. Your example of gifting is an excellent one. Also, how much is too much? Some good clothing costs more (yes that jacket is probably an extreme) but where is the cutoff? Maybe the school should include a jacket in their uniform or something.

Even if you have an official school uniform with a preferred supplier for blazers, trousers, skirts and shoes with specified colours, there are always going to be those families who try and undercut the cost even more by buying an off-colour generic blazer and stitching on the school badge onto a pocket, or wear black trainers instead of shoes, or just do something that makes them look "different". And the school and suppliers are in cahoots to make uniforms as expensive as possible by having logos or stripes on every item (jackets, ties, blazers, skirts). Naturally, these will change each year.

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a reply to: JAGStorm

Its the not the childrens fault they have deadbeat parents.

Why let poor students have their faces rubbed in it?

State school should be a equal playing field where children of all backgrounds can better themselves, where poorer students can be encouraged to do better than their dead beat parents.

"These coats cause a lot of inequality between our pupils,"

There you have it. That's what it's all about. Another "education" institution trying to indoctrinate children into the idea that everybody is equal no matter what, and if they're not, they should be forced to be.

Rich kids were often envious of me, only because they knew I had loving parents, while they hardly saw their parents, let alone had two parents, who loved and cared for them....


Perhaps that is the reason why I never, ever, cared if other kids were rich, or if they had, or their parents had, a fancy car, etc.

originally posted by: JAGStorm

Ok these coats are really expensive, but as long as they are not offensive, or smelly, or something like that why should they be banned for the simple reason that some kids families can't afford them?

I always laugh at the people wearing their designer brands.

The brands that stitch their logo's on the outside of the garments .....

So not only have they spent an exorbitant amount on the garment but

the designer is getting RICH and with FREE advertising.

What does that teach kids.

Not to be stupid and waste hard earned cash on 'a myth'

They should have learned from the well known childrens story of *The

Emperors new clothes*

And that confidence and well being comes from within oneself and not

by how much is spent on clothing..... but that they wear it well?

I think this could lead to some really bad things later on. If someone has something you don't have it's not fair so you should be able to take theirs away.

Rising crime rates are proving you right!

I wanted a Members only jacket when I was a kid in school, to be like everyone. My mom bought me a generic look a like jacket. Same with my generic Air Jordan’s. Haha good times being a poor kid trying to keep up with the spoiled brats.

a reply to: 38181

By the time I had gotten to high school, I'd given up on the idea that if I wore the cool clothes other kids would like me better.

So I stopped caring as much what they were wearing and started wearing what I liked wearing instead. I was pretty uncool, but it didn't matter as much because I was into all kinds of activities and good enough at most of them that I couldn't easily be shunned, I made a lot of things work whether the other kids liked it or not. So I was pretty much tolerated and got along with most everyone.

Good ol' near sighted social justice strikes again!

Gotta protect the children from reality for as long as possible so when they finally have to face it, what?

They're going to have some serious class shock when they go to university and see all the Chinese and Arab foreign students driving Maseratis.

originally posted by: Unruhestifter
a reply to: JAGStorm

Its the not the childrens fault they have deadbeat parents.

Why let poor students have their faces rubbed in it?

State school should be a equal playing field where children of all backgrounds can better themselves, where poorer students can be encouraged to do better than their dead beat parents.

You're a good slave, not like of those deadbeat slaves...:

originally posted by: 38181
I wanted a Members only jacket when I was a kid in school, to be like everyone. My mom bought me a generic look a like jacket. I felt even worse wearing it, embarrassed. Same with my generic Air Jordan’s. Haha good times being a poor kid trying to keep up with the spoiled brats.

Good lesson for setting the trend instead of following the sheep?

Maturity sets in when that lesson's learned.

a reply to: eletheia
Definitely, I look back and laugh how silly trivial materialistic THINGs are. Lesson learned early.

a reply to: ketsuko Same, when I reached HS and College, I quit giving a “F” about anyone.

a reply to: Unruhestifter

So just because a family is not driven by money that makes them 'deadbeat parents' - does not spending a thousand pound on a jacket make a parent an irresponsible parent?
Do you really believe that you are better if you can afford a coat for 1k?

a reply to: JAGStorm

The UK became a place I wouldn't want to live in incredibly fast. In the last 5-10 years, it has become a regressive wonderland.

I used to want to move there. Now, yuck. No way.

I like bad jokes and common freedoms without constant state interference in my humble little life.

That's not the UK. Their government is retarded.

I don't want to do drugs and have cops ignore me.

I want to say and think what I feel without fear.
I want to dress however I want. Make mistakes and learn. Live life.