Any evidence of pre setup?

a reply to: AtlasHawk

WTC 3 was the Marriott hotel at the WTC

It was crushed by the collapses of WTC 2 (South Tower) and WTC 1 (North Tower) - only part of it to survive was the steel
cage used to reinforce the building following the 1993 bombing which damaged the hotel severely and caused much structural damage

The first collapse of the WTC 2 basically cut the building in two - almost if struck by giant axe

Later collapse of WTC 1 crushed the remnants of the building

a reply to: neutronflux


I know you reject his work out of hand as you must to still be defending the official story all these years later, but Christopher Bollyn covered all this in detail in his several books on the subject.

Another great writer was Michael Ruppert, but his work probably makes you even more anxious.

Bollyn makes the case against Israel and its agents. PTech, TransTech Control LTD Airfield Management and much more.

originally posted by: Salander
a reply to: neutronflux


I know you reject his work out of hand as you must to still be defending the official story all these years later, but Christopher Bollyn covered all this in detail in his several books on the subject.

Another great writer was Michael Ruppert, but his work probably makes you even more anxious.

Bollyn makes the case against Israel and its agents. PTech, TransTech Control LTD Airfield Management and much more.

So this is your reply to show something that those students were Israelis like you were claiming?


Just Read some books aye.

This author makes a case against Israel, yes but does that author answer what is being asked about the students?

Or are you just going slide away and hope its forgotten?

Reading a fascinating book about the Saudi links to 9/11. The information in this book is not well known.

The 9/11 pilots headed to Arizona area in summer of 2001. The official narrative is they were flying cross-country checking security at airports.

The author discovered they actually headed to Arizona to train at a secret blackwater facility at Pinal Airpark during the summer of 2001. He builds a convincing case for it in the book.

Mindblowing information. People forget the hijackers were meeting Saudis who had ties to Saudi civil aviation in America when they arrived in summer of 2000.

When you read this book you have a better understanding of this covert operation.

www.amazon.com...=cm_cr_getr_d_paging_btm_3?ie=UTF8&reviewerType=all_reviews&pag eNumber=3

originally posted by: Salander
a reply to: neutronflux


I know you reject his work out of hand as you must to still be defending the official story all these years later, but Christopher Bollyn covered all this in detail in his several books on the subject.

Another great writer was Michael Ruppert, but his work probably makes you even more anxious.

Bollyn makes the case against Israel and its agents. PTech, TransTech Control LTD Airfield Management and much more.

Huh? Off topic again. Please cite any evidence that the art group Gelatin were Israeli agents. As in they have a long and ongoing art career, and are based out of Austria. Trying to say the Art Group Gelatin was a group of Israelites rigging the towers for implosion is a right out truth movement lie. And anyway, contradicts your pet theory which also totally lakes credible of mini nukes were used at the WTC

And I am not confused in there is zero evidence of CD at the WTC. There is no evidence of CD in the video record, audio record, seismic record, no evidence of steel worked on by planted pyrotechnics, no evidence of steel worked on by explosives, no evidence steel exposed to the temperatures at which thermite burns at, no evidence of any radiation levels above background, no evidence of explosions, no evidence of shockwaves with the force to cut steel, no evidence of steel splintered by explosives known as shrapnel recovered from living victims or human remains.

The only “evidence” you cite are quotes out of context, and cancers caused by chemicals of firefighters which as a group is known to already have higher rates of cancers linked to fire retardants.

a reply to: Salander

Again. It’s not about the official narrative. It’s about the description, lies, and pseudoscience of the truth movement.

How is that pet theory of yours working out, nukes at the WTC. What a hack theory with absolutely no credibility.

a reply to: Jesushere

And I can find written documents people swear the earth is flat.

I guess here is something else you can find “interesting” and imply is “credible” on amazon

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The Greatest Lie on Earth: Proof That Our World Is Not a Moving Globe

Maybe you could start a new thread, creating an actual argument with evidence?

Yamasaki circa 1960


WTC Towers in the 70's

a reply to: DigginFoTroof




Some wonder if the telephone lines were used as a wiring for demolition plus the explosives dog getting the sack and lots of goings on at night and the power being off in the building that morning

originally posted by: stonerwilliam
a reply to: DigginFoTroof

Some wonder if the telephone lines were used as a wiring for demolition plus the explosives dog getting the sack and lots of goings on at night and the power being off in the building that morning

To bad the jet impacts cut phone lines, and fires would have destroyed whole floors of phone lines, junction boxes, and switch boxes. Or the fact each bomb would have to have its own phone number. How many supposed bombs were there to supposedly take out the resistance of each floor?

a reply to: neutronflux

You have never seen the piping that runs down the elevator shafts in some buildings

originally posted by: stonerwilliam
a reply to: neutronflux

You have never seen the piping that runs down the elevator shafts in some buildings

Again, the jets cut through the core columns.

They cut the fire water mains.

The metal piping called conduit is not insulation.

www.anixter.com...

This is the temperature rating that most cable users think of first. It is usually defined as the maximum continuous temperature that the wire can withstand during its lifetime. It is generally limited by the thermal aging characteristics of the polymers, i.e., the plastics used to insulate and/ or jacket the wire. The metallic components of the wire seldom limit the temperature rating except in high-temperature wire where oxidation of the metal begins to become a significant factor at approximately 250° C.

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Every polymer has its own unique thermal aging characteristics. However, as a rule-of-thumb, for every 10° C the operating temperature of a polymer is increased, the life is decreased by a factor of two. For example, a wire that is designed to survive 40 years at 90° C would be expected to survive only 20 years at 100° C and 10 years at 110° C. The mathematical model used to calculate the relationship between temperature and cable life is called the Arrhenius relationship[1] after the Swedish chemist that developed it. The Arrhenius relationship coupled with field experience and laboratory aging tests are the basis for the operating temperature rating assigned to most wire and cable products.

The building phone system would have been through switch gear (junction boxes, switch boxes, and routers) that would have electronics even more vulnerable to fire and heat.

Never mind the detonators would have been ruined by fire and heat.

Reality checks another conspiracy theory.

a reply to: firerescue


This one always gets me guessing, the BBC reporting the third tower collapsing before it goes down. Pre scripted

a reply to: anonentity

Yea.... it has nothing to do with the fire department reporting WTC 7 outer walls visibly bulging and showing signs the building was going to fail. Or the safety zone established around WTC 7 out of fears it would collapse. Has nothing to do with genuine confusion that developes around chaotic situations.

Anything you need to keep the fantasy of WTC CD live.

Now, can you cite actual physical evidence of CD? Or all you have is a case of a confused report given with zero context?

originally posted by: DigginFoTroof
I'd like to raise about $5-10,000 in a GoFundMe and create a scale model of the WTC - something like 6-8ft tall. I've figured out the different materials that can be used to give VERY close approximations to the materials used in the buildings. A plane (737 or 767, I forget which they were) could be constructed in close structural relativity to the real planes with aluminum flashing sheet as well as various other parts (aluminum interior parts, etc). The plane could be filled with diesel/kerosene and launched at the scale structure at speeds relative to scale (I could probably do 4x-8x the actual relative speed so it would create more damage than what would really happen).

And people will give you money? will they be paying for accuracy? , lets hope you got that research down when the $$$ start rolling in, I hope you find the truth but I wont be buying it

a reply to: neutronflux


But she reported that it had gone down when it clearly has not.

I should think insurance policies against acts of terrorism for double indemnity just months before 9/11 might count.

a reply to: anonentity

That is mysterious of her to declare collapse before it happened.

originally posted by: carewemust
a reply to: anonentity

That is mysterious of her to declare collapse before it happened.

Again....

Yea.... it has nothing to do with the fire department reporting WTC 7 outer walls visibly bulging and showing signs the building was going to fail. Or the safety zone established around WTC 7 out of fears it would collapse. Has nothing to do with genuine confusion that developes around chaotic situations.

Anything you need to keep the fantasy of WTC CD live.

Now, can you cite actual physical evidence of CD? Or all you have is a case of a confused report given with zero context