Drugs drugs everywhere, and not a cop to blink...

a reply to: stonerwilliam
If a vehicle is legal on the police computer then you have to drive like a complete twat here to get pulled over lol
It's still the same, I can't drive anymore because I have blackout episodes for a few seconds sometimes, whiteouts would be a better word loss of vision, electric noise in my head like shouting volume, collapse to the floor, on a drug which controls it but I can't risk driving for safety reasons of course.
That said I now rely on lifts for work and the guys driving the vans are never insured or the registered keepers, there is zero chance of being pulled unless you crash or something.
It really is the wild (south) west down here.

EDIT
For the purposes of ATS rules, I'm not condoning people driving illegally, but it is a thing which happens often in my world, and if the only way I can work is by accepting a lift from an illegal driver then I will do so everytime and not grass to the cops. I have to put food on my table so it is what it is, reality.

a reply to: CornishCeltGuy

I am having the same blackouts and did a MRI scan on Friday but i did have 6 heart attacks in a year so i am on plenty of medication that might be causing it but you are banned for 6 months i have been told after a heart attack or a blackout and my last one was only a few weeks ago but you would be pulled real quick by the cops as the amount of cctv up here in outer Mongolia is beyond belief ,i worked in the room they have the screens in and it staggered me where they were hidden , 6 heart attacks COPD with all the dust from the tapeing , a hernia and a dodgy liver and i still cannot get a free bus pass lol

a reply to: stonerwilliam
I quite like not driving to be honest, if the job is out of town then I get an extra hour sometimes snoozing in the morning on the way.
Outer Mongolia lmao, nobody ever gets pulled here so long as the vehicle is insured and taxed by someone.
Honestly, our cops even officially announced not long ago that they will not investigate petrol station drive offs anymore unless there is clear evidence of fraud like fake plates. They treat it as a civil matter now, not a crime lol.

That helps understand why they don't care about personal possession anymore, they just can't admit it is their policy because there would be an outcry. It is their de facto policy though. Nobody I know worries about cops anymore, they are too busy trying to cope with real crimes like violence etc.

originally posted by: Justso
You sound like you live in some kind of Dystopian future.

It feels like Utopia though, friendly drug dealers and addicts, safe to walk the shadiest back alley's, people who look out for each other because we have zero cops on patrol, cops who say "play on" after community justice fixes problems, beaches, laid back, and double the population of happy tourists from around the world every summer.

I actually quite like that Devon & Cornwall Constabulary is one of the least resourced in the UK, I feel more free, or maybe I just have a nicer prison cell lol.

a reply to: ufoorbhunter

Yep, just accept the bad people, like everyone else, everywhere, police or not.

What's a bad person anyway? And why does some Joe get to decide who's bad and who can exist where?

People don't always conform to our idea of 'good people', nor should they.

Doesn't matter how you frame it, assault or threat thereof is never the 'right' way.

I might be singing a different tune if we were talking about self-defence, which OP hasn't even hinted at.

This, according to the thread so far, is about attacking drunks and dealers that he finds undesirable in the area... Unless they're personal acquaintances, of course.

originally posted by: SlowNail
This, according to the thread so far, is about attacking drunks and dealers that he finds undesirable in the area... Unless they're personal acquaintances, of course.

Lol, no it's not. You've focused on one sentence in the OP and keep going on about it. Do I care about anti social behaviour in shady back alleys? No. Do I care about anti social behaviour outside my house in a world with no cops? Yes, and I will use reasonable force to prevent it if I see fit.
I don't care that you disagree, you live in a different world to mine so judge as much as you like, I'll carry on and keep calm lol

a reply to: CornishCeltGuy

Got to page 3 mate and couldn't read any more.

The hypocrisy around drugs is staggering....and the war on drugs is a joke.

I don't talk too much on this topic because, well....read between the lines.

All I know is most people on here live in a completely different world to me.

a reply to: Freeborn
There is no war on drugs in my world, just a pretend one.
Interesting reading how it is different around Britain, never mind the world.

a reply to: CornishCeltGuy

I find the hypocrisy, and the ignorance, around drugs and the alleged war on drugs staggering.

I have no desire to impose my morals and standards on others, and I resent others imposing their morals and standards on me with very little justification.

I've been a member of ATS for quite a while, for obvious reasons, and regardless of my opinions on the site T&C I do try to respect them at all times.

Police resources are stretched to the limit, mainly due to serial underfunding, and as a result the police generally have to apply a common sense approach.
The odd temporary clampdown and high profile raids provide the headlines that help them maintain the illusion of a zero tolerance approach....the reality is somewhat different.

That we can't have a frank discussion of the topic merely reflects society in general.....any serious attempt to do so is immediately demonised and not only discouraged but deemed strictly verboten.
Thus no solutions and the status quo remains intact.....and who benefits from that?

a reply to: SlowNail

You don't have a clue about life out there lmao

I don't even want to try to explain, but when you are out there, it is either you and your safety or someone else

Even at your home

You are one of those that even if they go into your house or gather outside you hide under the bed, instead of going out and tell them off

Cops won't help you, they will just get tired if you are identified as one of those people that can't do things on their own

I guess if you were living 10,000 years ago you would also need cops help to prevent someone trashing your cave lmfao

Guess life is not as easy as you have it, for all of us out here

a reply to: CornishCeltGuy
That's called going down the slippery slope. Most druggies are harmless, but then again. An addict is an addict and will do anything for his addiction. There are two frames of mind on this general drug issue. One is that like any disease it must be rooted out and exterminated before it takes holds. And the other is, let be and by.

And the whole war on drugs thing? That was just racketeering and profiteering disguised as good intent.

I suppose we will see which two of the above general frames of mind on this drug issue, end up being better, and in a few generations at that. Sounds like you already have a front few seat to it, but ya drug use even hard drug use, is a pretty rampant in all parts of the world amongs't all economic circles.

a reply to: BoneSay

We have to play Judge Dredd, coz Cornwall is a whole 'nother world.

Christ, do you hear yourselves?

a reply to: CornishCeltGuy

I live in Govanhill in Glasgow , need I say more !

If you are bothered about it enough to pass on your experience to us , then write to your local MP , write to the chief of police in your town
get others invested in your campaign to clean up your neighbourhood
speak to mothers who's children goto school near by
they will support you !

engaging with your community is the best approach , if you are that concerned then maybe instead of engaging with these people to chat about weather, why dont you say , "have some respect" there could be kids watching , is that any kind of example to set for children, snorting lines iin public

a reply to: sapien82

There's no money for police mate simple as that, and the council is skint. I've written to my MP, the residents association lobby the council and the answer is the same, austerity.

The only thing the community can do is force them into the shady back alleys away from residential areas. There were no kids around at the park or I would have said something.

a reply to: sapien82

Have to agree with that, sniffing lines in public is pushing it, weans and old people, should not be forced to witness people snorting the stuff.

Anybody that's desperate for a line that much can use a pub or public toilet and hopefully have the decency to clean up after themselves.

Drugs should not be near our schools, just milk, and free dinners.

a reply to: andy06shake
There were no kids around, it wasn't a play park, otherwise I would have said something. They'd probably be lynched by the mothers first though to be honest, I've seen that happen to alcoholics who made the mistake of drinking in the play park.
...we'll have a certain member in next saying they disapprove of that as well, judge dredd mothers lol

a reply to: CornishCeltGuy

well , I think that getting your community together , getting like minded people to say , enough is enough
we dont want it openly on our streets
you have your own houses to indulge in whatever drugs you like!

if we guys or adults or whoever were taking drugs outside my house or on my street they'd be getting telt wae more than just a kind word!
Drinking in public is bad enough, when there are plenty pubs etc.

I have absolutely no issue with what people choose to do with or put in their bodies !
but they can do it in the comfort of their own home, or out of the way of public areas where young people are.

No one should have to see that on their streets !
I think that getting some community group together, organise a meeting , find out what people's attitudes towards it are.
If money is an issue, which it most likely will be , then pull together, see what money you can get into a kitty , do some community work yourself , get a campaign on the go , get more locals involved.

If you need any design work done for flyers etc, I can help ye !

a reply to: CornishCeltGuy

No blaming you CornishCeltGuy, groups of people congregating around in parks or other public areas sniffing gear are probably not the best people to approach to share your thoughts or woes with.

Decorum is the issue, even Junkies should know better.

originally posted by: sapien82
a reply to: CornishCeltGuy
if we guys or adults or whoever were taking drugs outside my house or on my street they'd be getting telt wae more than just a kind word!

That's exactly what most people do, my mates are the same, kick them out of residential areas back to the shady alleys and steps. Most are homeless though so there is nowhere else for them to use their drug of choice, be it Spice, heroin, and alcohol usually.
You can't stop it but you can kick it out of your street, which I do every time.

a reply to: CornishCeltGuy

well I know the issue must be affecting your community , maybe addressing the initial issue , homelessness
instead of the drugs . Is there much help for the homeless in your area ?