Donna Brazile and Muriel Bowser were at the hospital @ 4:30 am when Seth Rich was brought in!

originally posted by: ausername

originally posted by: IAMTAT

originally posted by: introvert
a reply to: ausername

High profile DNC official was at the hospital was just a coincidence, of course.

In Washington DC.

The entire town is full of high-profile politicians.

...and they all hang out at the hospital @ 4am.

The cafeteria has excellent breakfast, but you have to get there really early.

I hear there's a waffle bar.

a reply to: toms54

So says the folks who have been parroting discredited and debunked paranoid Russian conspiracy theories

You'd think they wouldn't be throwing stones in a glass house.

But hey, apparently some on here (Silly and JoshuaCox specifically) think that being able to cram a bunch of data, answer multiple choice questions then forget 99% of what you "learned" makes you intelligent.

originally posted by: IAMTAT

originally posted by: introvert
a reply to: ausername

High profile DNC official was at the hospital was just a coincidence, of course.

In Washington DC.

The entire town is full of high-profile politicians.

...and they all hang out at the hospital @ 4am.

They were "all" there?

Have a source for that?

originally posted by: AndyFromMichigan

originally posted by: introvert
a reply to: ausername

High profile DNC official was at the hospital was just a coincidence, of course.

In Washington DC.

The entire town is full of high-profile politicians.

So why was she at the hospital at 4:30 am?

Trying to finish murdering Seth Rich, if he wasn't dead on arrival, of course.

Obviously, don't you think?

She could have been there for a medical concern. Or perhaps there to support a family member. I'm not sure.

But the most logical explanation is that they were there for Seth Rich, correct?

a reply to: introvert

Brazile among others were exposed in the wikileaks DNC emails that were published. It's not out of the realm of possibility that she was furious and among others had motive.

Too often coincidence doesn't answer the prevailing relevant questions.

Especially in a case like this...

originally posted by: BlueAjah
a reply to: JBurns

Maybe Brazile was not actually involved in the beginning. Maybe whoever was responsible found out Seth survived and had an oh-no situation, and decided to send in someone they trust to handle the flow of information.

Brazile was pretty hard on the Clinton campaign in her book. Maybe she was disillusioned about other things as well - things that she dare not mention.

That's what I've been thinking about... or along similar lines.

Is it possible Seth himself called Brazile? I have it in my head that they were friends but I might be misremembering... and she's been pretty darn critical of the Clintons and the DNC... so could Seth and Brazile have been kindred spirits, if not allies? Perhaps she even know about his meeting that night?

originally posted by: ausername
a reply to: introvert

Brazile among others were exposed in the wikileaks DNC emails that we're published. It's not out of the realm of possibility that she was furious and among others had motive.

Too often coincidence doesn't answer the prevailing relevant questions.

Motive to do what? Show up at the hospital, personally, and do something to Rich if he wasn't dead?

Just because you can create a conspiracy out of a lack of verifiable information, does not mean that the loony conspiracies become "prevailing relevant questions".

Other than her being at the hospital around the same time, what other evidence do you have to show what their motives were at the hospital?

Especially in a case like this...

In a case like this?

Why? Why do you throw out reason and logic in order to create a conspiracy around this particular case?

Because of politics?

It's not based on facts, that's for sure.

a reply to: introvert

If there's an honest explanation for why she at the hospital at that hour, I'm sure it will be revealed soon. 4:30 am is far outside any hospital's normal visiting hours.

From a quick search, it appears she is unmarried and has no kids, so the two most likely scenarios that would lead her to be there are right out.

originally posted by: AndyFromMichigan
a reply to: introvert

If there's an honest explanation for why she at the hospital at that hour, I'm sure it will be revealed soon. 4:30 am is far outside any hospital's normal visiting hours.

Was she receiving medical care?

From a quick search, it appears she is unmarried and has no kids, so the two most likely scenarios that would lead her to be there are right out.

What about the most likely...getting medical treatment?

What other info do you have? Surely you are not creating a conspiracy based on just what we know now.

Are you?

a reply to: introvert

Depends on where she was before allegedly being at the hospital.

Are you sure it isn't your political bias that has skewed your perspective, or blinded you to new possibilities in a mysterious UNSOLVED murder case?

a reply to: introvert

Because a young man was murdered, under highly suspicious circumstances. No explanation has satisfactorily explained his murder to date, and these are questions that deserve answers. The deflections have been piling up, one after the next since this began. Take the Russia-hoax narrative for instance, it has felt like a hoax from the very start (when Obama himself debunked it), and a way to cover up for a massive insider leak.

Seth Rich has long been discussed as a possible source for leaked files, or at least a facilitator for the same. His murder and the "botched robbery" (who took the time to shoot him from behind and not steal a thing) make no sense. A "botched robbery" happens when something unexpected happens during the crime and the criminal kills the victim when they otherwise intended not to. Thing is, you'd have expected *something* to have be stolen. This specific murder appears more like an execution than a botched robbery, because Rich's wallet and expensive watch was left untouched.

Generally, when someone is murdered, the perpetrator is sought. And since Rich's killer has not been captured - yet - all potentialities should be reviewed and no stone left unturned.

Again, I see no proof that Brazille was there other than tweets from this organization in the OP (unless I am missing something).

I would ask the people believing this to be honest; if Hillarys team or supporters just released tweets claiming something with no proof, wouldnt you be skeptical of those claims?

Now, lets assume that Brazille was there. There are still many questions that this raises.

Such as, why has Brazille remained silent about this up until this point?

There also seems to be at the minimum four scenarios that could have led to her being there.

1. She had something to do wigth rich's shooting, or was sent there by people that did.

2. Similar to scenario one, only here the dnc did not order the death, but wanted someone there to tie up lose ends.

3. She heard of the shooting somehow, and wanted to be there to support her friend (in which case it would be reasonable to ask how she heard so fast).

4. She happened to be at the hospital for a personal reason, and went to see her friend who was shot when she heard ofnit.

I feel like without more proof, all of the opinions on this at this point is just personal speculation.

originally posted by: ausername
a reply to: introvert

Depends on where she was before allegedly being at the hospital.

Are you sure it isn't your political bias that has skewed your perspective, or blinded you to new possibilities in a mysterious UNSOLVED murder case?

Political bias has nothing to do with what I said.

Without some sort of evidence, all you are doing is creating unfounded conspiracy.

I ask simple questions, but no one seems to want to answer them.

a reply to: JBurns

Because a young man was murdered, under highly suspicious circumstances. No explanation has satisfactorily explained his murder to date, and these are questions that deserve answers

And so it must have been Brazzile? Because she was at the same hospital around the same time?

Seth Rich has long been discussed as a possible source for leaked files, or at least a facilitator for the same. His murder and the "botched robbery" (who took the time to shoot him from behind and not steal a thing) make no sense. A "botched robbery" happens when something unexpected happens during the crime and the criminal kills the victim when they otherwise intended not to. Thing is, you'd have expected *something* to have be stolen. This specific murder appears more like an execution than a botched robbery, because Rich's wallet and expensive watch was left untouched.

And so it must have been Brazzile? Because she was at the same hospital around the same time?

Generally, when someone is murdered, the perpetrator is sought. And since Rich's killer has not been captured - yet - all potentialities should be reviewed and no stone left unturned.

Sure. Is that proof of a conspiracy on the part of people at the DNC?

Was she there to finish him off, if needed?

Please lay-out the conspiracy and the evidence you have for it.

a reply to: introvert

It is an intriguing, potentially dangerous rabbit hole. All we can do is see where the evidence (that hasn't been eliminated or covered up) leads ultimately.

You can either explore, sit and watch, or obstruct.

We will get there eventually...

originally posted by: ausername
a reply to: introvert

It is an intriguing, potentially dangerous rabbit hole. All week can do is see where the evidence (that hasn't been eliminated or covered up) leads ultimately.

You can either explore, sit and watch, or obstruct.

We will get there eventually...

I dont agree with introvert often, but I find his skepticism here to be warranted.

We need proof of these accusations that she was there, not just some twitter groups word for it.

Now I have no problem with asking questions of the official narrative, or of coming up with theories.

I also think that anyone who tries to silence people trying to get answers is to be called out.

There certainly is a lot of unasnwered questions with this case, and there seems to be a concerted effort by many people (such as the many in the media and the dnc) to silence all of these questions.

But that still is not proof of anyones conspiracy.

I hope more veidnce is made available to help us all have a more informed opinion on what happened.

a reply to: ausername

It is an intriguing, potentially dangerous rabbit hole. All week can do is see where the evidence (that hasn't been eliminated or covered up) leads ultimately.

Yes, a rabbit hole you seem to be digging yourself. Not one that exists on it's own.

You can either explore, sit and watch, or obstruct. We will get there eventually...

Problem is that many of us do not want to go "there" with you.

We like evidence and facts and stuff. Not conspiracy rooted in ignorance.

a reply to: Grambler

Right now it's speculation without ANY proof. At this point I don't know how you would even prove that now. The Closed Circuit Cameras at the Hospital would have long since erased those files from that night, just in the normal archiving of things. People seem to think such things are kept forever. They aren't. You would have to assume there were text messages about it if they actually went down there. Those would probably be the best hope for evidence.

Right now it's wishful thinking without evidence to back it up.

That's not to say there isn't a lot of smelly things with the whole Seth Rich Story.

a reply to: introvert

Digging in areas that make some people uncomfortable happens in research and investigations.

My apologies for the discomfort. Because many people don't want to go there doesn't mean we shouldn't.

Have a nice day anyway.

a reply to: pavil

I agree exactly with you.

There is definitely something fishy.

But When an organzation says they have proof brazille and others were at the hospital, I would like to see that proof before I just take their word for it.

Now I agree with you, pressureshould be kept up for the release of information. And its also funny to see how the very people saying we dont need to look in to richs murder want trumps records form decades ago to be looked at, and never ending investigations into russian collusion to occur.

I say transparency on all of this would be great.