Junior Trump compares the DNC to 1930s Nazis

originally posted by: 3NL1GHT3N3D1
Expect support for this comment. Just like how they adopted the term "fake news" after crying about its use, they'll probably adopt this as well.

Is this you being neutral or will you finally admit you are a liberal?

I actually don’t care what he says. I didn’t elect him.

a reply to: Words

the comments are funny. One asshole claims that Jr. is an idiot for saying anyone compared them to Nazis, then a few posts down, the Trumps are accused of being Nazis. Good times.

originally posted by: Words

originally posted by: TerryMcGuire
a reply to: Words

No, it just looks like he has been following the left's lead.

So, you blame the left here? For teaching Junior how to act and present himself? What has happened to the conservative mantra of ''self responsiblity''. Is not the president's son also held to these great standards. Personal responsiblity?

No, I don't. I blame the left for making Nazi comparisons fashionable. I wonder where you were when that was going on?

You didn't? Then why, when I quote your whole post is it all right there in front of us?

a reply to: network dude

Oh you know, the usuals around here on ATS, the ones who defend Trump or anyone associated with him constantly and without fail, the ones who constantly create threads pertaining to how awful "leftists" are out how great Trump is. I'm pretty sure you know the ones I'm talking about. I'm simply speaking about ATS, nothing outside of it.

originally posted by: TerryMcGuire
a reply to: SocratesJohnson

Thank you for that list Soc. I won't read it right now as I am sure there are plenty of valid comparisons in it. The larger problem as I see it is that while liberals are not willing to entertain the notion that those comparisons are real, the blindness of conservatives to comparisons between Nazism and present day conservatism is at least equally disconcerting.

These are all social issues, right or left. The people of Germany back then were undergoing pressures just as we are here today. The rise of authoritarianism is at every gate and to put all of our defenses on one gate while abandoning the others because we believe them to be safe can be our downfall.

If we are to make comparisons to Nazi Germany we need to do it across the board.

Unless it's a Trump, then you need to make a thread about it and poke at them, amirite?

originally posted by: TerryMcGuire

originally posted by: Words

originally posted by: TerryMcGuire
a reply to: Words

No, it just looks like he has been following the left's lead.

So, you blame the left here? For teaching Junior how to act and present himself? What has happened to the conservative mantra of ''self responsiblity''. Is not the president's son also held to these great standards. Personal responsiblity?

No, I don't. I blame the left for making Nazi comparisons fashionable. I wonder where you were when that was going on?

You didn't? Then why, when I quote your whole post is it all right there in front of us?

Where in that post do you read what you accused me of saying?

"While if you look at the actual behavior of the leftists,"

Nowhere.

Yes, in this case it's completely justified because the Royal Family said it. This does not mean that the terminology can be used against them or anyone in their government, as the majority will agree here.

The circumstances differ, there is no doubt; the Royal Family uses facts and knows history inside out while everyone else uses the term wrongly, or with pure hatred. The Royal Family would never do that, they do research, only speak the truth and treat everyone equally and with respect -- everyone!

We all know this.

originally posted by: 3NL1GHT3N3D1
a reply to: network dude

Oh you know, the usuals around here on ATS, the ones who defend Trump or anyone associated with him constantly and without fail, the ones who constantly create threads pertaining to how awful "leftists" are out how great Trump is. I'm pretty sure you know the ones I'm talking about. I'm simply speaking about ATS, nothing outside of it.

As long as we don't hear anymore empty garbage about how neutral you are. I can take a leftist, but a lying leftist, not so much.

a reply to: Metallicus

You must have a pretty short memory because I've said similar things about liberal talking points. Remember the whole Mexican families BS that was going around here a few weeks ago? I'm sure you could look at my history and find a few comments bashing that whole cry-fest by liberals.

originally posted by: TerryMcGuire
a reply to: Words

No, it just looks like he has been following the left's lead.

So, you blame the left here? For teaching Junior how to act and present himself? What has happened to the conservative mantra of ''self responsiblity''. Is not the president's son also held to these great standards. Personal responsiblity?

So, you're going to cry either way it's spun. Although I like what you did there. Very nice verbal trap.

a reply to: TerryMcGuire

A few months back his brother Eric said that Democrats aren't even people. So... To be fair though, they're both morons and their principal role model is a lying sleaze turned populist demagogue.

I don't know about nazis, but the DNC's Superdelegate system is pretty damn corrupt, and exists solely to prevent grass roots candidates like Bernie Sanders from competing with party establishment insiders. It's pretty obvious when you consider Clinton had something like, a 570 delegate lead before the primaries even started, and still had to do some pretty shady stuff to stay ahead.

Bernie Sanders Camp Says Ending Superdelegate ‘Debacle’ Key to Defeating Trump in 2020

Straight from the horses mouth, no pun intended.

a reply to: network dude

Please refer to my posting history to see me complaining about the other side as well, thanks.

I can't help that this place has been infested with right wing talking points, I also can't help that right wing threads continuously make it to the top of the front page daily. Of course you're going to see me complaining about one side more, that's because it gets the most airtime around here.

a reply to: SlapMonkey

So they're rallying every week building up nationalistic steam to rebuild a fallen broken society, promising jobs, dismantling unions, focusing blame on certain minorities?

Doesnt look like that to me, if anything it sort of reminds me of something or someone else right now.

originally posted by: theantediluvian
a reply to: TerryMcGuire

A few months back his brother Eric said that Democrats aren't even people. So... To be fair though, they're both morons and their principal role model is a lying sleaze turned populist demagogue.

The irony is he was speaking about the hatred he and his family was receiving, while you've spun it to make it look like it was him doing the dehumanizing.

a reply to: TerryMcGuire

He's comparing platforms, not people, so to attempt to equate this with criticism of the nonsensical "Donald Trump is literally Hitler" hyperbolic horsesnip we've heard some spew is not accurate. Jr, however, isn't inaccurate in his comparison of the two platforms. The Nazi party's policies were born out of a progressive (for the era) left leaning platform.

a reply to: SlapMonkey

Serious reply monkey. All you point out is valid and in my own simple way was trying to point out your final sentence. Yes there were calls of NAZI as Trump came up. And yes, there are valid comparisons to the Dem platform of present day.
That is the point. Conservatives called foul when those comparisons were made to their guy so one would suspect that if they are indeed as ''personally responsible'' as they make themselves out to be, they would call out Junior by the same standards rather than defending him or blaming the dems for paving the road. If we wanted to blame the road pavers we could just as easily go back the Rep debates and how Trump was calling people names and making fun of their physical apperances. Could we not?

And yes, I have studied early Nazi Germany. One of the biggest lessons I learned on my own was how American public schools only glossed over the rise of HItler. Hitler was the big bad boogie man reminiscent of all the despots and ''big men'' of earlier times, ''big men'' who in light of western democracy spreading around the world were on their way out.

Not once was I taught in those school days that it was not so much the ''big man'' but rather the economic and social pressures, the total gestalt of changing social structures that always allow for the rise of the ''big man'' when the people trust in a savior. It is our weakness to trust in the Dems and it is our weakness to trust in Trump.

originally posted by: burdman30ott6
a reply to: TerryMcGuire

He's comparing platforms, not people, so to attempt to equate this with criticism of the nonsensical "Donald Trump is literally Hitler" hyperbolic horsesnip we've heard some spew is not accurate. Jr, however, isn't inaccurate in his comparison of the two platforms. The Nazi party's policies were born out of a progressive (for the era) left leaning platform.

Just because the Nazi's had the word socialist in their name does not make them socialists. The industrialist of Europe at that time had a great fear of communism. THey funded Hitler, along with Ford, and allowed him to finances to rise to power. Their fear was that the communist revolution would spread from the agricultural nation of Russia and into the industrialized Germany. And indeed there were communist stirrings in Germany at that time. The word Socialist was put in the Nazi title to attract the people into believing that it was in some ways similar to the Russian revolution.

a reply to: strongfp

Sure, but let's just ignore all of that.

originally posted by: rollanotherone

originally posted by: TerryMcGuire
a reply to: Words

No, it just looks like he has been following the left's lead.

So, you blame the left here? For teaching Junior how to act and present himself? What has happened to the conservative mantra of ''self responsiblity''. Is not the president's son also held to these great standards. Personal responsiblity?

So, you're going to cry either way it's spun. Although I like what you did there. Very nice verbal trap.

How was that a verbal trap? I was asking how conservatives seem to hold to a certain standard of behavior and then turn around and negate that standard when they choose to. It's not a trap, it's questioning a level of hypocrisy.