First look: Dems crush GOP in party registration

a reply to: odzeandennz

Why would you assume that anything less than almost all of them are Americans? The Democrat/illegal voter narrative has been disproven many times over. I image there is a VERY tiny minority of illegal voters or dead people not purged from the roles, but not at these levels. That is silliness. You are free to stuff your head in the sand and pretend like this is nothing though.

a reply to: Krazysh0t

To give a little local insight, Alaska passed a law in 2016 which automatically registers anyone who applied for the PFD and is 18 or older. They are registered to vote as independents/unafilliated automatically. So when you see a light pink Alaska, that means registered GOP is the second most popular behind ind.

a reply to: Krazysh0t

I guess enough people hate Trump that they are getting off of their chairs and making sure to vote.

This should be a interesting election cycle.

a reply to: Krazysh0t

Okay, I'll quote myself to reiterate that which I've already explained:

originally posted by: SlapMonkey
a reply to: Krazysh0t

Since I like to look at the big picture, are these first-time registrations, or does it not differentiate between the two? I mean, people move and have to re-register all of the time, so pretending like these are in-addition-to-already-registered-voters registrations is rather presumptuous and based on nothing provided in the very, very short blurb that is apparently a teaser for the full story coming out on Thursday.

I mean, I can't explain it much more clearly, but I'll try to expand, I guess: Just because there are all of these registration numbers does not mean that they are first-time voter registrations. Because the story doesn't explain if they are or are not first-time voter registrations, we can not conclude with any intellectual honesty that these are all registrations that are additive numbers to the registered voters that already exist. We also are not told the net gain or loss of voter registrations for each county or state, so we don't know if these are migrated voters from county to new county or state to new state.

There are so many variables that go into the "why" behind someone registering to vote, and this article doesn't address a single one. Therefore, you have absolutely zero way of knowing if the numbers for Dems are swelling, as you claimed.

Did that explain it thoroughly enough?

originally posted by: burdman30ott6
a reply to: Krazysh0t

To give a little local insight, Alaska passed a law in 2016 which automatically registers anyone who applied for the PFD and is 18 or older. They are registered to vote as independents/unafilliated automatically. So when you see a light pink Alaska, that means registered GOP is the second most popular behind ind.

To give a little national insight, Alaska is one state among 50 others. According to my OP there are only 12 states where Republicans are beating Democrats in registration. The remaining ones are tossups or Democrat leaning.

a reply to: Krazysh0t

Well we might as well not have a vote, it's 90%certain.



Now where have I heard that before?

These next few months are going to be real eye openers I predict.

a reply to: SlapMonkey

Ok. I tell you what. You go ahead and assume that all is well and there isn't a rising wave of Democrat voters and everything will remain deep red for many years to come. I will choose to believe otherwise given national discourse and social networks outside of red leaning echo chambers like this web sit. Oh and this information I just posted.

originally posted by: pavil
a reply to: Krazysh0t

Well we might as well not have a vote, it's 90%certain.



Now where have I heard that before?

These next few months are going to be real eye openers I predict.

I literally claimed nothing is certain and in a followup post said I'm not jumping to conclusions (about outcomes). Thanks for putting words in my mouth though.

originally posted by: grey580
a reply to: Krazysh0t

I guess enough people hate Trump that they are getting off of their chairs and making sure to vote.

This should be a interesting election cycle.

Huge difference between registering and actually voting.

a reply to: Krazysh0t

We'll see in November, won't we?

I was adding the comment on Alaska because it was something I doubted had made national news and was wondering how many other states had similar law changes since 2016... As with every other election, independents will decide 2018, not partisan hacks from either side.

a reply to: burdman30ott6

I'd bet that here in KY, a lot of the Dem registrations are due to the ignorant protesting and bickering that went on concerning teacher pensions.

On top of that, the state supreme court shot down a funding bill signed by Gov. Bevin that mandated work from able-bodied Medicaid recipients (which optimistically would have gotten some people off of Medicaid and state-funded programs), which in turn necessitated the removal of tens-of-thousands of Kentuckians off of dental and vision plans funded by the state.

There is evidence that this was done mainly for political reasons.

Of course, by the time voting comes around, these things will probably be forgotten about and most of those registrants won't even vote.

a reply to: Krazysh0t

Tbh, I wasn't referencing you. I do doubt that voters are going to get very worked up overy a mid term.

We will see what happens. The Republican base is solid and the economy is good. That favors the party in power, not the ones who want to raise taxes.

All we heard from the media up to the election was how the polls showed Hillary had the overwhelming majority of support and would absolutely win with no problem whatsoever. This was obviously blatantly false.
Forgive the skepticism, but I'm not about to trust some university blog called "Larry Sabato's Crystal Ball" that already has a history of making failed political predictions - like, for example, that Hillary would win several states she actually lost and then go on to win the presidency over Trump.

No thanks.

originally posted by: Krazysh0t
a reply to: SlapMonkey

Ok. I tell you what. You go ahead and assume that all is well and there isn't a rising wave of Democrat voters and everything will remain deep red for many years to come. I will choose to believe otherwise given national discourse and social networks outside of red leaning echo chambers like this web sit.

Where did I say anything about me assuming anything?

In fact, every comment to you has been arguing to avoid making assumptions based on your link in the OP. Where does that equate in your brain to me making assumptions either way?

Maybe this is where having excelled in statistics classes aids me in looking at the big picture and how data can and cannot be applied to conclusions.

And for the record, I'm a registered libertarian--what makes you think that I want things to be deep-red anywhere? Oh, right...assumptions based on data (or a lack thereof) that doesn't indicate that.

Oh and this information I just posted.

Right...but that information doesn't support your claim.

At all.

I'm starting to feel like a broken record, so I'll leave you be to your unsubstantiated fantasy now. Like I said, hopefully Thursday's full article will talk more about what types of registrations these are, but until then, your assumption about what the registrations indicate will remain an assumption, no matter what you "choose to believe."

If they do the work.

Follow all election laws.

And, the system isn’t rigged again.

Then they deserve to win.

originally posted by: Krazysh0t
a reply to: MisterSpock

It's not true. Democrat numbers are growing. Rapidly. They are actually growing faster than they were in 2008.

How many are republicans to throw bad votes away from the Dem contender? hehe

a reply to: SlapMonkey

Another factor is which states have closed primaries. I know Florida, LA, NM, KY, PA. and NY all have closed primaries. In a couple of those state's cases, (Fla, LA, NM, KY) there is an effort to oust incumbants in the primaries, so that may explain higher registrations for one party versus the other as well. Too many variables present in this to correlate registration numbers with voter results, especially in mid terms when far few dems usually show up to vote.

originally posted by: Krazysh0t
a reply to: MisterSpock

That's cool. I'll just go ahead and report you for voter fraud then.

Never pictured you as a narc.
Interesting to see how times change.

In my state "registration" is not required. You just go vote.