Senate Says, "Hell yes, Putin wanted Trump for President

a reply to: TinfoilTP

Your opinion is not fact. Sorry dude.
What I stated happened. What the ultimate plan is only Putin knows. Trump is still clueless because he thinks the photo op is the important thing. He thinks just having a meeting is important. Not what each is bringing to the table. He'll give Putin Crimea. He'll hand them Syria. What is he getting in return? What is America getting? Russia has nothing to offer and no threat to dangle over us.

a reply to: JBurns

Yeah I'm sure it was the airing of Rudy Giuilani claims of deals and arrangements that he was talking about. He was the only one claiming to know Muellers plans and methods.
But there was no court filing about this.
Court filings were against the release of court rulings to the media.

originally posted by: Gryphon66
a reply to: AboveBoard

The U.S. official in charge of protecting American elections from hacking says the Russians successfully penetrated the voter registration rolls of several U.S. states prior to the 2016 presidential election. In an exclusive interview with NBC News, Jeanette Manfra, the head of cybersecurity at the Department of Homeland Security, said she couldn't talk about classified information publicly, but in 2016, "We saw a targeting of 21 states and an exceptionally small number of them were actually successfully penetrated."

NBC News

Yeah. Then there’s that.


Obviously, nothing to see here!!

Impeachment Imminent.

originally posted by: network dude

originally posted by: Gryphon66
a reply to: network dude

You want to talk about your estimations of the intellect of those on this site, or do you want to discuss the topic?

The topic is plain and needs no further citation: the Senate Intelligence Committee has issued their report which finds that Russia interfered in our 2016 election specifically.

What more does a five year old need to understand about that?

You have stepped up to the plate, thanks.

I'm not as smart of some folks. I didn't get a 4 year degree. So when I see this topic, and I feel the obvious empty void in my soul that exists, because I truly don't understand what Russia did to sway the election, or whatever it is they are accused of, it makes me sad.

So I look forward to you explaining what it is that Russia did to effect the election.
Thanks in advance.

The problem is that while it can be roughly distilled, the full understanding of the Russia Active Measures cannot be understood without diving into some pretty complex connections and connecting dots between a whole bunch of players, both American and Russian, as well as from other countries.

Take a deep dive on Manafort, his history, his current legal woes, what we know and what we thepublic don’t have answered yet, etc. Same with Michael Cohen.

Same with a very long cast of characters. And you have to go back a bunch of years in time to connect some dots. You have to understand who is bankrolling Trump’s entire universe as well as Jared and 666. You have to see how money laundering and Russian Oligarchs connect to Trump and his properties. Then see how this connects to Putin, Russian kompromat and their propaganda machine.

It’s quite the multiple “police case board” with pics and strings connecting events and people all over the world.

So it’s really hard when people say they want a quick summary that a five year old could understand. If that’s the level you want then I can’t help you.

It amazes me that people on the right (not saying you specifically) will spend hours picking apart a cryptic Q comment, but won’t take the time to research the most intriguing and wide spread international conspiracy of our time.

🤷‍♀️

a reply to: Phage

Okay so let’s say that Russia did meddle in our election. Two questions for ya. 1. Do you think Putin would EVER admit to it? 2. Do you believe Trump was a willing participant?

I say if Russia did meddle in our election (which I believe they did) then Russia should face consequences but wait didn’t we already sanction them for it?

What exactly is the point of your OP, I seem to be missing the importance of it.

Russia is a distraction used by mainstream media to misdirect your attention from the fraud and corruption being conducted on the American people. Get it? Russia had little to do with the 2016 election results, or any others for that matter. On the other hand, that Hillary Clinton colluded with the DNC and mainstream media to undermine Bernie Sanders' bid for the presidency, then do the same for Donald Trump once that was accomplished. Their meddling failed. So why is nobody talking about that and how America is being devolved before our very eyes today? Russia. What a load of crap.

a reply to: Sillyolme


But wait oh wait America should stop policing he world.

a reply to: tabularosa

Many on the left are now suggesting that Hillary Clinton would have won if Russia did not hack the Democrats. Really? This contradicts previous liberal theories for why Hillary lost, which are legion. Was it the FBI Investigation into Hillary Clinton’s mishandling of classified information? Was it the impropriety of the Electoral College system? Was it miscounted votes in key swing states? Was it the irresponsible — and, according to the candidate herself, “life-threatening” — proliferation of “fake news”?

No, it was the Russian-orchestrated document dump that cost Hillary the election. That’s the new narrative :/

a reply to: Sillyolme

So you are okay with the United States being treated unfairly with NATO? Threatening to shut of someone’s lights is typically an affective way to get them to pay their bill.

originally posted by: Alien Abduct
a reply to: Sillyolme

So you are okay with the United States being treated unfairly with NATO? Threatening to shut of someone’s lights is typically an affective way to get them to pay their bill.

We are NOT being “treated unfairly” by NATO. It is not a “club” with membership dues. It is a strategic alliance and WE have good reasons for wanting NATO strong and intact, so we pony up in the interest of our own National security.

Trump is framing this like Germany reneged on Mar-a-Lago dues but still wants access to the golf course. 🙄

a reply to: tabularosa

Sanders was included in every debate and every Primary and Caucus ballot. He knew about superdelegates when he flipped from Independent to Democrat to run and when he flipped back. There is no standing in any case I know of for election or voter fraud in the Primaries ... So please tell us how Sanders was cheated.

a reply to: network dude

BWAHAHAHA!!

Only according to Sean Hannity..



All that “I didn’t collide with Russia, everyone else colluded with Russia..”

Stuff is just a joke.. it is literally saying “I know you are but what am I”

Lmao..

That has got to be the LAZIEST deflection in history..


Let’s just say for arguments sake that we wanted to set Trump up. Why I the hell would you choose to set him up with someone we were colluding with?!?!

That is called pooping where you eat!


If we had shady dealings with the Russian government and we wanted to set Trump up. We would choose some other enemy government to use as a patsy..

That way when digging was done it wouldn’t lead back to us.

OBVIOUSLY!

I have a really hard time believing that I am smarter than the rooms of Ivy League educated super spy’s who are suppedly setting all this stuff up..

Because I know better than to poop where I eat!

It is propaganda meant for stupid people.. stopping to imagine the logistics required to pull off any of these right wing conspiracies is a joke.

originally posted by: Alien Abduct
a reply to: Sillyolme

So you are okay with the United States being treated unfairly with NATO? Threatening to shut of someone’s lights is typically an affective way to get them to pay their bill.

How are we being treated unfair? NATO members are supposed to spend atleast 2% of their GDP on defense. However, that money is not paid to the USA . So if a country doesn’t pay that much on defense it doesn’t hurt the USA.

Should they do what they agreed to do? Yes, but if they don’t it doesn’t make them our enemy.

a reply to: AboveBoard

Well, that's some interesting theories. I suppose of anything pans out, we will see Trump getting impeached, I'll be looking out for all that. What if you are wrong?

originally posted by: BlackJackal

originally posted by: Alien Abduct
a reply to: Sillyolme

So you are okay with the United States being treated unfairly with NATO? Threatening to shut of someone’s lights is typically an affective way to get them to pay their bill.

How are we being treated unfair? NATO members are supposed to spend atleast 2% of their GDP on defense. However, that money is not paid to the USA . So if a country doesn’t pay that much on defense it doesn’t hurt the USA.

Should they do what they agreed to do? Yes, but if they don’t it doesn’t make them our enemy.

If im rooming with someone and they agree to pay 50% of the bills and only pay 30-35% of the bills they may not be my enemy but we are gonna have a long talk. And if that doesn't work we are probably going our separate ways soon.

Its time for country's to be fair toward the USA by doing what they agreed to do. Dont agree to something you are not willing to do.


The thing is, things like this and the immigration laws not being followed have gone on sooooo long people get the mindset its normal and how its suppose to be. They are scared to rock the boat. They dont wanna piss off our allies in order to fix it. Basically its like having a so called friend take advantage of you and you're scared or to pussy to say anything about it.

Well we finally got a president who IS going to say something. And that scares people who would rather continued being taken advantage of then rock the boat and say hey buddy/pal I feel this thing we have between us isnt quite fair.

originally posted by: JoshuaCox
a reply to: network dude

BWAHAHAHA!!

Only according to Sean Hannity..



All that “I didn’t collide with Russia, everyone else colluded with Russia..”

Stuff is just a joke.. it is literally saying “I know you are but what am I”

Lmao..

That has got to be the LAZIEST deflection in history..


Let’s just say for arguments sake that we wanted to set Trump up. Why I the hell would you choose to set him up with someone we were colluding with?!?!

That is called pooping where you eat!


If we had shady dealings with the Russian government and we wanted to set Trump up. We would choose some other enemy government to use as a patsy..

That way when digging was done it wouldn’t lead back to us.

OBVIOUSLY!

I have a really hard time believing that I am smarter than the rooms of Ivy League educated super spy’s who are suppedly setting all this stuff up..

Because I know better than to poop where I eat!

It is propaganda meant for stupid people.. stopping to imagine the logistics required to pull off any of these right wing conspiracies is a joke.

re-read my post, but this time, do it as if there isn't any proof that Donald Trump colluded, or collided with Russia. I think that may clear up the context you seem to be missing.

a reply to: network dude

It's abundantly clear that you're really not interested in discovering the truth.

You simply want your perceptions and beliefs reinforced regardless of how misguided they may be.

originally posted by: Sillyolme
a reply to: TinfoilTP

Your opinion is not fact. Sorry dude.
What I stated happened. What the ultimate plan is only Putin knows. Trump is still clueless because he thinks the photo op is the important thing. He thinks just having a meeting is important. Not what each is bringing to the table. He'll give Putin Crimea. He'll hand them Syria. What is he getting in return? What is America getting? Russia has nothing to offer and no threat to dangle over us.

LOL Obama already gave Putin Crimea, Obama gave Putin Syria, where was your outrage when it actually happened?

This is comical, need more popcorn......

a reply to: Phage

A cyber campaign of propaganda turned Democrats into Republicans.

That's some impressive stuff right there.

And apparently it's an on-going issue here in Kentucky where Democrat registration is continuing to decline.

Bad Vlad!