The Nimitz story in the former OMF forum

originally posted by: Baablacksheep
Here is the latest from Dr Jack Sarfatti.

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But it's gonna take money
A whole lotta taxpayer money
It's gonna take plenty of black budget money
To build these tic tacs

It's gonna take time
A whole lot of retroactive causality time
It's gonna take help from the AI intelligence running the universe
To do it, to do it, to do it, to do it, to do it,
To do it right child

a reply to: coursecatalog

DISCLOSURE PRESIDENT...


TRUMP WAS BRIEFED ON THE TIC TAC UFO !!!
THANK YOU TTSA

TRUMP COMMENTS ON UFO

a reply to: celltypespecific

MORE FROM TRUMP:

"Well, I think my great pilots would know. Our great pilots would know." "They see things a little bit different from the past. So we’re going to see. We’re watching, and you’ll be the first to know."

a reply to: celltypespecific
You are getting over excited , they have medication for that I believe .



@CC, good tune there


@ Many Masks. Imagine!

a reply to: celltypespecific

Now why oh why did you leave out;

"I think it’s probably -- I want them to think whatever they think. They do say, and I've seen, and I’ve read, and I’ve heard. And I did have one very brief meeting on it. But people are saying they’re seeing UFOs. Do I believe it? Not particular," Trump said.

"Not particular"

Why did you leave that part out I wonder?

a reply to: pigsy2400

He had a very brief meeting on it. Who was the meeting with I wonder?

a reply to: Baablacksheep

DISCLOSURE PRESIDENT....?

THANK YOU TFT.......Because of your bravery ...its reached the highest level ,
You should release more documents like the powerpoint today on ATS.

14 seconds in..

Could be this is fake aircraft data being created using satellites to send the signals. Either Russia or the US.

If US this might be why they are ready to take on Iran.

a reply to: roadgravel

Things moving forward...
Trump briefed on UFOs

originally posted by: pigsy2400
a reply to: celltypespecific

Now why oh why did you leave out;

"I think it’s probably -- I want them to think whatever they think. They do say, and I've seen, and I’ve read, and I’ve heard. And I did have one very brief meeting on it. But people are saying they’re seeing UFOs. Do I believe it? Not particular," Trump said.

"Not particular"

Why did you leave that part out I wonder?

It does though appear to support the notion that authority to openly discuss the footage came from the Executive Office and has Federal approval, which would also explain why the NYT is the main organ of choice grinding out the TTSA narrative.

Interesting times.

When the government releases info such as this you can bet its only part true and there is an agenda. If it goes true a third party is it even worse.

a reply to: celltypespecific


A powerpoint now?

a reply to: pigsy2400

Good point Pigsy....
I forgot to mention that Trump stated "And I did have one very brief MEETING ON IT".

The president of the United States of America is currently/was briefed on the UAP/UFOs situation.

Thanks for pointing this out for me Pigsy

The idea that TTSA is stimulating ufo activity and interest is a good point. The problem is that there just is no real ufo experiences or content that we can get a grasp on.

This experiences phenomenon has become redundant.

People see a ufo, a light or a saucer and report it and then an investigator questions them and they might do a little going over the spot if it’s a landing experience sighting.

Then there are the more exotic abduction reporting’s…very real but elusive in any tangible understanding of what it is.

Or you have the new age types who say ufos are from Mars, or God, or gods, angels, devils, IDH spookery which all are on the level of religious speculations and little scientific proof: Linda Howe, Michael Salla, Dave Wilcock and Steven Greer types and many others including the ufo cults, that have become dangerous at times.

Then in between that you have the Richard Dolan, Jenny Randles, Mufon, more sober type ufologists. At least more sober than the above.

Then the scientific types like Vallee, Hynek, and Bigelow type.

Often, they intersect. Like Timothy Goode has gotten into the spiritual ufo syndrome, though his books are of the sober variety most of the time.

All of them have failed to really get any tangible evidence or added to any real progress in ufology.

WHY

Because whatever is behind this mysterious phenomenon is very adept at hiding.

Grant Cameron does make a good point out of listening to the “experiencers” but that doesn’t really advance ufology too much since it all depends on belief.

Jacques Vallee has and does play the role of the serious researcher frustrated by any real lack of a serious unified scientific research methodology that may actually find tangible results in understanding this mysterious phenomenon.
But he has been foiled at every turn and only served to be a part-time researcher going around interviewing experiencers.

And his problems also may be that he ran around with noted disinformation specialists while supposedly at the same time researching himself. SO IS HIS ROLE JUST A ROLE OR IS IT LEGIT?

Indeed, the NIDS period in the Bigelow quest with all those serious and well-financed, relatively speaking, investigations, as far as I know, haven’t gone too far. If they did discover something they're not telling.

Maybe Bigelow is hiding what he discovered.

It all lends to exemplify ufology as being maybe the most vital yet elusive science there is.

What does TTSA really have to add to the advancement of ufology?

Honestly, I see absolutely nothing.

The point I’ve always tried to make in my critique of TTSA is this:

The initial TDL breakout gave the impression that this would be a DISCLOSURE…of some level.

(Maybe I’m wrong about that. I'll have to go recheck that.)

Not just another run-of-the-mill going in circles ufo “research” effort.

The point is we’ve had many of those already.

Just look at what Zondo has been doing on the history channel show: running around pretending he’s researching something by asking a group of Mexicans and pilots about the supposed ufos they witnessed.

Good lord, we have 50 million examples of that so what in the world is just another repeat of all of that we have going to advance anything?

It's that simple.

IMO people who don't see and realize this ( with all due respect) are just either ignorant of ufology history or dealing with wishful thinking.

originally posted by: TheFinalTheoryReturns
Just cometa, who had copies of everything. Negative on Necroflesh, and you're welcome.

A German UFO researcher has kindly agreed to call the two telephone numbers I have for two people in Germany with the same name as Cometa. Fingers crossed.

Also, in another positive development, it appears that the Powerpoint presentation in relation to Nimitz incident(s) may _not_ only have been held by Cometa (and TheFinalTheory). It turns out that Cometa arranged to share some of the material with at least one other member of ATS, SeenTooMuch. SeenTooMuch has kindly answered a number of questions from me during the last week and SeenTooMuch has confirmed that a doc file and a Powerpoint file were included in material that Cometa shared. Unfortunately, SeenTooMuch has not retained either file and was not able to open the Powerpoint file, despite seeking some help from engineer friends. But this suggests that some others involved with me, SeenTooMuch, Cometa and TheFinalTheory in the discussion in 2007 may have at least the Powerpoint file - if not the longer version of the Nimitz video reported by TheFinalTheory. (SeenTooMuch does not recall any other version of the video being included in the material that Cometa shared in 2007).

So, I remain optimistic (particularly if TFTR responds to the questions I posed last week, in this thread and on Facebook) that it may be possible to obtain the longer version of the video and/or the Powerpoint presentation (i.e. UFO 5 Anomaly brief.ppt).

But, of course, I am an optimist. Heck, I still think that we could achieve a lot more cooperation within ufology and also dramatically increase the amount of UFO material freely available online in searchable formats with a relatively modest amount of effort...

Edit - Double post.

a reply to: IsaacKoi

Ok Issac one can only wait and see.