F.B.I. Raids Office of Trump’s Longtime Lawyer Michael Cohen

Waiting for the announcement that Michael Cohen was basically a coffee boy and Trump only met him once briefly.

originally posted by: pyguy

originally posted by: JBurns
a reply to: IAMTAT

If this has anything to do with Mueller, time to fire his ass. This is so far outside the scope of "Russia collusion" debunked conspiracy theory it isn't even funny.

The funny thing... collusion isn't even a crime on the books! All this money wasted to try to remove a duly elected President from office. There's a word for that... Coup i think!

Py

It’s banana republic stuff, full on abuse of power with most of the media acting as the paramilitary wing of federal law enforcement and central intelligence. And the bureaucratic boot-licking makes it all the more painful to watch.

originally posted by: JBurns
a reply to: IAMTAT

If this has anything to do with Mueller, time to fire his ass.

Tough cookies.

Scumbags that break the law should go to jail.

No special treatment for "lawyers" of the most corrupt oaf to ever occupy the WH.

This is so far outside the scope of "Russia collusion" debunked conspiracy theory it isn't even funny.

How the hell would you know?

And yes, it was debunked the second Mueller conceded Trump wasn't an actual criminal target.

Did he say anything about Cohen not being a target?

And while you are at, maybe you should look up what a "subject" of an investigation is? Which is what Mueller told Trump he was.

so if you're subject in an investigation what that means is that you're not a target, so they're not gunning for you, but the prosecutor thinks that there is good reason to believe you may have done something wrong. You may have committed a crime or been a part of a criminal activity or part of a conspiracy.

www.whitecollarcrimeresources.com...

AND YES...

"I have been advised by federal prosecutors that the New York action is, in part, a referral by the Office of Special Counsel, Robert Mueller,"

www.cnn.com...

So Cohen+Trump illegally spent campaign contributions to pay off porn stars and lied about in Federal Campaign Filings
OR
Cohen funneled money for Russians into Trump's Campaign
OR
BOTH

Cry me orange tears and go start a "lock her up" thread for the no-longer-running woman who had hosted email on her home PC.

Cohen is going down.

originally posted by: Swills
a reply to: Lumenari

As if Trump has never used other peoples monies, like his so called charity on himself. This is par for the course in Trump land.

Ah.. so no proof or anything, just liberal feelz.

Thanks for the reply.

originally posted by: Sillyolme
a reply to: Lumenari

If he used those funds to pay Stormy Daniels he may have.

And why would he do that?

LOL

originally posted by: SlapMonkey
a reply to: IAMTAT

Hmmm...this is a pretty big thing, both in what may be uncovered, but more as to why Mueller felt a need to do this. Attorney-client privilege is one of the types of communications held in highest regard in the eyes of the law.

If an attorney is engaged in facilitating criminal activity on behalf of a client and an investigator/prosecutor has clear and compelling evidence of the same, judges are permitted to approve warrants and subpoenas "piercing" Attorney-client privilege.

THAT is what is fascinating here. For them to raid Cohen's office means they already have some pretty damning evidence.

originally posted by: soberbacchus

So Cohen+Trump illegally spent campaign contributions to pay off porn stars and lied about in Federal Campaign Filings
OR
Cohen funneled money for Russians into Trump's Campaign
OR
BOTH

To quote yourself:

originally posted by: soberbacchus

How the hell would you know?

Oh, I see--since it's your own speculation that supports your own obvious political bias, it's okay for your to speculate as to the only two reasons why these raids have occurred, but not for others to speculate on other things.

I see.

ETA

originally posted by: [post=23303659]soberbacchus[/post

If an attorney is engaged in facilitating criminal activity on behalf of a client and an investigator/prosecutor has clear and compelling evidence of the same, judges are permitted to approve warrants and subpoenas "piercing" Attorney-client privilege.

THAT is what is fascinating here. For them to raid Cohen's office means they already have some pretty damning evidence.

More speculation?

And I understand the warrant process, thank you.

If Trump broke the law, he should be punished.

What is amusing is the leftists dancing around in glee.

Sad in a pathetic sort of way, but they've had so little to be happy about.

So to all the anti-freedom leftists, I hope you get to skip your bubble therapy today.


Maybe knock over a statue, send a death threat, or ban a book to celebrate.

a reply to: SlapMonkey

The person I responded wasn't speculating.

They declared it had nothing to do with Russia and Mueller should be immediately fired.

The presumption that Special Counsel Mueller (And Trump's Appointed Rod Rosenstein - who has to approve warrants)
are just randomly serving warrants on the Presidents Lawyers is inane.

a reply to: DBCowboy

What is amusing is the leftists dancing around in glee.

Yep they just violated attorney client privilege because of petty politics.

I wonder what's next.

Getting rid of miranda rights?

a reply to: SlapMonkey

No, the moral of the story is that TGP is DEEP STATE AF.

Or, it could just be that they're a blog and can fire off a post in about 10 minutes after reading something breaking on Twitter.

a reply to: DBCowboy


you bet your ass we're dancing for glee - the swamp is being drained.

if this were hillary you'd be doing the same. poor sport.

originally posted by: DBCowboy
If Trump broke the law, he should be punished.

What is amusing is the leftists dancing around in glee.

Sad in a pathetic sort of way, but they've had so little to be happy about.

So to all the anti-freedom leftists, I hope you get to skip your bubble therapy today.


Maybe knock over a statue, send a death threat, or ban a book to celebrate.

Aww feel better after your own verbal diarrhea bubble therapy? You're one of those cowboys who are all hat and no cattle, as my father would say.

originally posted by: soberbacchus
a reply to: SlapMonkey

The person I responded wasn't speculating.

They declared it had nothing to do with Russia and Mueller should be immediately fired.

I don't care what they did, I was calling out your hypocrisy.

The presumption that Special Counsel Mueller (And Trump's Appointed Rod Rosenstein - who has to approve warrants) are just randomly serving warrants on the Presidents Lawyers is inane.

Who is presuming that? I've seen a few questions surrounding that concern, but as has been pointed out numerous times in this thread, it wasn't Mueller who sought and received, nor did he approve, the warrant request. No one has said anything about random warrant approval, that I can see.

Maybe questions about the validity that we don't have answered yet, but in any event, I'm not claiming it, so it's not my problem if others are.

originally posted by: neo96
a reply to: DBCowboy

What is amusing is the leftists dancing around in glee.

Yep they just violated attorney client privilege because of petty politics.

????

So you presume that Cohen hasn't broken any laws?

Or is it your presumption that Presidential Immunity extends to loud-mouth ambulance chasers the President employs?

What you should be asking is what is the standard that must be met for a prosecutor to get a judge to pierce attorney-client privilege.

Look that one up and let me know what you find.

originally posted by: BlueAjah
If it was a crime to pay someone to keep quiet about a consensual affair, I am pretty sure we would lose a huge chunk of Congress. This is an absolutely absurd reach.

They have a taxpayer money hush fund for criminal activity payoffs!!

This is the same tactic they used on manafort.

It's intimidation. Abuse of power.

No sit down now.

Looks like Mueller is trying to get Trump to fire him...so he doesn't have to admit he found no collusion after wasting millions.

originally posted by: theantediluvian
a reply to: SlapMonkey

No, the moral of the story is that TGP is DEEP STATE AF.

Or, it could just be that they're a blog and can fire off a post in about 10 minutes after reading something breaking on Twitter.

Holy hell, man, it was a joke

It just occurred to me that Mueller ordered the raid today, because on Wednesday, the FBI has to turn over the 2 page document to Congress that explains exactly WHY Mueller was appointed. (Not the MSM version.. the classified version.)

If it is too weak, or used lies, Mueller is fired.

a reply to: knoxie

you bet your ass we're dancing for glee - the swamp is being drained.

That's effing sad.

Watching an episode of Billions play out in real life is as corrupt as it gets.