Another Muslim atrocity. Must we embrace the peaceful muslim traditions?

originally posted by: 3NL1GHT3N3D1
a reply to: Talorc

Christian militias kill up to 30 civilians as hundreds seek refuge inside mosque


Ever heard of the Lord's Resistance Army? It's easy information to obtain if you cared to research it.

Ever heard of you shall know them by their works? Those arent christians. same as the muslims who kill arent real muslims either.

Extremism of any kind is a problem, but Islamic extremism is the clear and present danger. For those that hadn't noticed an entire movement and army of extremists have been butchering millions over the last decade and engaging in a worldwide terror campaign.

There is no other 'culture' that represents the same threat and it's pretty disgusting to liken what the Islamic extremists have done all over the world with crime in Western societies as some have done on this thread.

We can not tackle all the worlds ills at once, but a clear focus needs to be Islamic extremism at this time. Those that would appease it with faux comparisons should be ashamed of themselves. I know for a fact that decent Muslims are just as horrified and offended by the radicalisation of their people and see it as a massive problem that the world faces.

For some strange reason Western progressive liberals want to underplay this threat. I guess their own ideology fits in nicely so they are more tolerant of it.

originally posted by: UKTruth
Extremism of any kind is a problem, but Islamic extremism is the clear and present danger. For those that hadn't noticed an entire movement and army of extremists have been butchering millions over the last decade and engaging in a worldwide terror campaign.

That sounds like the US + UK + NATO. Especially when you factor in who started / funds / partners with the worst of them.

originally posted by: IgnoranceIsntBlisss

originally posted by: enlightenedservant
a reply to: RomeByFire

Come on, now. How do you expect them to rile people up if they don't recycle the same stuff?

They've gotta have something to distract us from the fact that there have already been at least 69 incidences just this year where 4 or more people have been shot here. (HERE) And if you check the links for each incidence on that page, they include school shootings, hostage killings, murder-suicides, police killings (where the cops were the victims), family killings, and more.

But nope, we should ignore all of those because a crime committed a year ago shows who the "real" threats are. (the last sentence is sarcasm)

So now you're stereotyping all those America's by insinuating they're all Christian's?

No, I pointed out that the OP had to pull up a year old article to rile you guys up even though there have been 69 and counting mass shootings here just this year that likely had nothing to do with "Muslim atrocities", as the thread title states.

Oh and I saw a post you made earlier where you claimed that stoning is mentioned as punishment in the Qur'an. That's a lie. The Qur'an doesn't even mention it once (it's in hadith, not the Qur'an). However, the Bible does mention stoning as punishment multiple times. Here's a wikipedia article showing the Torah's mentions of stoning (here). That link also shows the times it's mentioned in the Jewish Mishna, and if you keep reading, it then shows the various views on stoning in Islam. You might want to read it before making statements about what is and isn't in the Qur'an.


Ok, I'm actually going to go now.

a reply to: enlightenedservant

Ok, I suppose then I'd like to know why you, I presume to be a "moderate" Muslim (which by definition means there is something more 'severe') have a more tolerant view of non-believers than some of the groups in the middle east, pakistan, etc?

How is it they are seeing something so vastly different than yourself? The punishment for apostisay is quite severe and "final", I dare say, in Islam. Not so much in the others.

Why is that?

Yeah, im going to point out the blatant idiocy of people who are grouping muslims together and that they cant be a religion of peace.

School mass shooters in America are predominantly white. Explain yourselves. Should we # on white people as well?

Stop being dumb.

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a reply to: enlightenedservant

What does the contents of the Bible have to do with me (or this story)? Its like you decided I must be a CHristian, and therefore you're somehow going to win our exchange by twisting it around on them.

Although it is interesting what you've conjured up for me, that barbaric stuff that is in the Bible isnt in the Quran. WHich is wack where basically none of that stuff is practiced in the slightest by 'Mainstream Global Christianity' but is practiced or at least tolerated by major chunks of 'Mainstream Global Islam'.

And somehow that's supposed to make Islam look better.

a reply to: IgnoranceIsntBlisss

Hmmm... From your link the poll said only 1 in 10 Muslims questioned in the survey agreed with killing family members. Sounds like a minority, not a majority as your earlier post implied. Still waiting on these numbers that show a "majority" of Muslims agree with killing family members.

a reply to: 3NL1GHT3N3D1

Did I say "majority" in absolute terms?

Was I not speaking more towards the broader list (which is a long one) of barbaric BS that goes on associated with Mainstream Global Islam.

originally posted by: enlightenedservant
a reply to: RomeByFire

Come on, now. How do you expect them to rile people up if they don't recycle the same stuff?

They've gotta have something to distract us from the fact that there have already been at least 69 incidences just this year where 4 or more people have been shot here. (HERE) And if you check the links for each incidence on that page, they include school shootings, hostage killings, murder-suicides, police killings (where the cops were the victims), family killings, and more.

But nope, we should ignore all of those because a crime committed a year ago shows who the "real" threats are. (the last sentence is sarcasm)

Well, those shootings aren't real threats.

No one died. No bullets were fired. No blood.

During every single mass shooting since forever. Every single mass shooting has been set up by the Illuminutty because gun control.

Duh. Stay woke, bruh.

ETA: Someone should start making threads about mass shooting that happened years ago in the past, create an OP based on a lie, and claim it's happening now.

I'm sure the mods won't trash the thread, add the content to an existing thread, and it will spread over nearly ten pages.

What an absolute joke. This is blatant propaganda, perpetuating a non-story that's already been discussed on ATS (at lengths) in order to continue to fan the flames of bigoted non-sense.

originally posted by: IgnoranceIsntBlisss
a reply to: 3NL1GHT3N3D1

Did I say "majority" in absolute terms?

Was I not speaking more towards the broader list (which is a long one) of barbaric BS that goes on associated with Mainstream Global Islam.

#alternativefacts

a reply to: IgnoranceIsntBlisss

None of that is relevant to this particular thread except for the one about killing family members though, I thought you were addressing the actual topic here.

A lot of the numbers I saw from that link fell into the "minority" category as well so you're still not exactly right even in broader terms.

a reply to: 3NL1GHT3N3D1

Actually its two fold as she tried to rebel against him selling her off in an arranged marriage, and that prompted the honor killing. I didnt even look at how old she is. Do I even dare...

a reply to: RomeByFire

I provided a thread with like a hundreds of fact. Cant wait for you to come and debunk it.

EDIT: NVM.. Too triggered at stupidity

a reply to: IgnoranceIsntBlisss

Which still means, according to your data that you provided, only a very small minority would approve of him killing her.

originally posted by: kaylaluv
Cultural problem, not an Islamic problem. There are millions of Muslims who don’t beat or kill their daughters, and there are plenty of non-Muslims who beat and/or kill their daughters.

Cool avatar by the way. Your selfie with your gun makes you look so cool and awesome.

Does Sharia law promote women's rights?

originally posted by: face23785

originally posted by: Woodcarver

originally posted by: Talorc
a reply to: 3NL1GHT3N3D1

An example of one group is fine, but then again I could just flood this thread with hundreds of examples of violent Islamic groups and individuals. Any rational person would be able to draw the rational conclusion that one of these two religions is more violent than the other.

christianity is on equal footing with islam, and judaism. You can’t just pretend that the last 1000 years didn’t happen.

Can we pretend that # Christianity and Judaism grew out of hundreds of years ago is something Islam should give up in the 21st century?

Yes. I would like that

a reply to: yuppa

I completely agree.