Mueller Postpones Flynn sentencing????

a reply to: luthier

an informant was not used in the Flynn case. He got caught lying to the FBI.

I am sure you already knew that though.

originally posted by: Xcathdra
a reply to: luthier

an informant was not used in the Flynn case. He got caught lying to the FBI.

I am sure you already knew that though.

Perhaps you should read the actual case history before making stuff up.

The status hearing was set for tomorrow. Do you know what that is. A status hearing?

originally posted by: Xcathdra
a reply to: luthier

an informant was not used in the Flynn case. He got caught lying to the FBI.

Contreras told the former Army general that prosecutors will request less punishment than sentencing guidelines recommend “if and only if” he provides substantial assistance “in the prosecution of another person.”

a reply to: luthier

are you quoting the judge that recused himself?

a reply to: luthier

You mean a pre trial conference. If you educate yourself further a status hearing / pre trial conference is when 2 parties and their legal counsel meet to resolve charges before a trial.

Since he already plead guilty and was awaiting sentencing your still way off. If you read the op info the sentencing hearing was stopped at Mueller's request.

try again.

or are you just going to keep throwing legal terms out that dont apply while making up non existent sources for the flynn case?

originally posted by: luthier

originally posted by: Xcathdra
a reply to: luthier

an informant was not used in the Flynn case. He got caught lying to the FBI.

Contreras told the former Army general that prosecutors will request less punishment than sentencing guidelines recommend “if and only if” he provides substantial assistance “in the prosecution of another person.”

Imagine that... They are wanting Flynn to become an informant.. As you falsely claimed, and as I corrected you, a informant was not used to get flynn.

Learn your facts before lecturing people with incorrect information.

originally posted by: luthier
a reply to: Xcathdra

Is that so?

Has the informant been used in the case yet? Because usually in that situation it's easier for the lawyers to interview the informant outside of jail.

But you probably knew that.

Do you think his sentencing may be based on his cooperation?

www.washingtonexaminer.com...

There is no sentencing date yet in Flynn’s case. The judge said Flynn must check in once a week and would not be held in custody ahead of sentencing. He scheduled a status hearing for February 1.

Wasn't Trump already POTUS Elect in Dec?

Flynn was part of the transition team and it is not illegal for him, as NSA or whatever he was, to contact anyone.

Mueller has nothing.

Malicious prosecution is about it.

a reply to: burgerbuddy

It is why Flynn was charged with lying to the FBI. His meetings were legal and not a problem. The lying to the FBI about those meetings were the problem.

and with Mueller's latest move I imagine the special counsel is going into damage control mode because of the impending release of the FISA memo. If the people indicted / who already plead guilty cases are based on the FISA surveillance its over with.

Since we know Flynn's case is based on that surveillance, coupled with FBI agents talking about f**king Flynn and then on to Trump...

If the special counsel goes forward knowing the info was illegally obtained the special counsels next court appearance will be to ask Flynn how many 0's he wants after the 1 on the settlement check.

a reply to: Xcathdra

Uh there was no sentencing hearing set.

There was a status hearing set for Feb 1st.

If you read it says both parties.

There was no sentencing hearing set.

Stop making stuff up. A status hearing was set for the Feb 1st. This was a motion to avoid a full status hearing.

a reply to: Xcathdra

I never ever said there was an if or many for flynn.

I said flynn was the informant. Get a clue man. They are using him for Intel whether he has anything or not.

That is literally the highest probability the sentencing hearing (which was never set) was delayed.

There is no sentencing date yet in Flynn’s case. The judge said Flynn must check in once a week and would not be held in custody ahead of sentencing. He scheduled a status hearing for February 1.

edit on 31-1-2018 by luthier because: (no reason given)

a reply to: luthier

yup...

read...

"not ready to be scheduled for a sentencing hearing"

ask yourself why and apply some commonsense.

a reply to: Xcathdra

Here is your quote

Since he already plead guilty and was awaiting sentencing your still way off. If you read the op info the sentencing hearing was stopped at Mueller's request.

He never stopped a sentencing hearing. He was giving an update for the status hearing set for Feb 1st.

And I already told you. He is being used for information which will effect his sentencing.

a reply to: luthier

You are like a ferret on crack...

pick a position and stick with it. Constantly bouncing from one to the next when you get called out is getting annoying.

You do understand if Flynn's case is suspect because of the FISA his plea will be thrown out / refused. You are also assuming he became a "source" for Mueller. Something thats never been verified. Just wishful thinking by the left.

a reply to: luthier

He did... Read the document provided. The hearing tomorrow deals with his sentencing. It has been stopped by Mueller.

originally posted by: MotherMayEye

originally posted by: burntheships

originally posted by: MotherMayEye

There's no excuse for not electronically recording FBI interviews, in this day and age. I think nearly everyone expects them to and most people are very surprised to learn the FBI has a policy against it.

It is shocking they are still so backwards. There must be a good (bad) reason for this.

I would hope as the DOJ is investigating McCabe, they look into these allegations.

They claim it interferes with their interview methods and building a rapport with the interviewee.

It's a bad reason. One that I don't buy, at all.

Actually, it does make people more likely to talk, and it's better for putting them at ease. I'm not sure that's sufficient reason to do it, but that's why it is done.
What you can do if you are ever visited is explain you want the conversation recorded and record it yourself. And when you begin recording state the time and date, and then ask the agents if you have previously discussed any factual matters beyond an introduction and your desire to record this visit. That keeps them from saying you said things before you began recording.
And the better plan by far to actually having a conversation is simply to ask them for their business card and tell them you'd like to consult a lawyer before making any statements, and that you'll give them a call.

a reply to: RadioRobert

Given the FBI agent behind Flynn's investigation is Strzok... Given McCabe is gone due to having FBI agents change 302's after the fact...

originally posted by: Xcathdra
a reply to: luthier

You are like a ferret on crack...

pick a position and stick with it. Constantly bouncing from one to the next when you get called out is getting annoying.

You do understand if Flynn's case is suspect because of the FISA his plea will be thrown out / refused. You are also assuming he became a "source" for Mueller. Something thats never been verified. Just wishful thinking by the left.

This is total garbage.

My position is exactly the same from my first post and unless your drunk you know that.

Go back and read buddy.

There was no sentencing hearing set

Mueller didn't stop anything both parties agreed.

The status hearing was set for Feb 1st on Dec 1st

Mueller is using Flynn for information which is part of the sentencing (based on his cooperation)

People who are being used as informants.like flynn which are part of the plea deal usually do so outside of jail.

So basically you have been wrong every time.

Chris Christie is a liberal on the left? He says flynn has been cooperating for a long time.

originally posted by: Xcathdra
a reply to: luthier

He did... Read the document provided. The hearing tomorrow deals with his sentencing. It has been stopped by Mueller.

I read the document. I also read his guilty plea where they said the status hearing is on Feb 1st

And that the sentencing hearing was not set. It's real easy. The sentencing hearing was not set.

When did they scheduele the sentencing hearing?

That's right they didn't. They set a status hearing for tomorrow based on the case and his cooperation level which will effect the sentencing.

originally posted by: Xcathdra
a reply to: RadioRobert

Given the FBI agent behind Flynn's investigation is Strzok... Given McCabe is gone due to having FBI agents change 302's after the fact...

Given what we know right now, Trump would be an idiot to submit to an interview. It's Mueller's job to try to hang you, but you don't have to help him.

a reply to: luthier
a reply to: luthier


yeah you keep bouncing from informant, to status hearing, back to something a judge said who was recused and replaced on the Flynn case, back to informant, to something insane about Chris Christie, who is a Republican and not a liberal on the left.

As I said, you hang in there as you will eventually get something right. Just not today.