Why I Believe Women Should Cover Up More!

a reply to: sekerofknowlege

I am a female and I understand what you are trying to say.

Based on humanity’s current paradigm you are right. Because our current consciousness has created a reality where nakedness has a lot of negative and uncomfortable connotations, underdressing creates uncomfortable situations.

You didn’t create this paradigm so you shouldn’t be punished for reacting to it and being honest about it.

What humanity has to do is stop seeing the human body—-the most natural thing in the world—in such a negative or sexual way. We’ve made sex itself a shameful thing.

But until we shift our thinking about it all, we have to deal with the reality of how it is now—-and that’s what you are explaining.

I agree with you. I understand.

I don’t dress provacitively because i don’t desire that kind of attention. I am just content being myself and being appreciated for what and how I think.

I truly believe a lot of women have been taught to derive their self esteem from their physical beings rather than from their intelligence and their grounding as a human being.

This is another function of our current society and until we change our minds about it, I’m afraid we’re stuck in this viscous cycle.

a reply to: sekerofknowlege

I had to think long and hard about what I decided to post here, and I analyzed ALL of the previous replies before starting mine.
First and foremost-I am a woman, and on the whole pretty average looking. Not only that, I am an intelligent, well read woman.

It doesn't matter if I am dressed in medieval costume that covers enough that only my face and hands are visible (and yes, I do reenactment so this is a reality for me), or dressed in a bikini on the beach, or in business clothes in my government office where I work, I STILL get hit on. That simple fact tells me all I need to know about men, and women for that matter, (as I have been hit on by both sexes).
It tells me it isn't a matter of covering up, or being "Hot" as they say. it tells me that many people need to take a good long look at their attitude towards others, and what they "THINK" they can get away with.

I am married to a wonderful man, with whom I share a great relationship. While the sex is wonderful, it is not the be all end all of our relationship. And neither of us have been involved with anyone else since the date of our marriage 14 years ago. I don't go chasing scantily clad(or fully dressed) men, and he doesn't chase scantily clad (or fully dressed) women. We are both heterosexual so same sex doesn't play into this at all.

I live in a hot climate,and spend many hours at the beach each weekend in a bikini. My attitude, and demeanor is not unfriendly, but it is very obvious that I am not interested in anyone but my husband, and in general I am left alone. Not because my husband is guarding me (usually he's out snorkeling somewhere-haha) but because I am very clear about not being available, I am very sure about who I love and want to have a relationship with, and it isn't some stranger from the beach, or the guy I met in the isle of the grocery store. In general, I don't mind being admired from afar, look all you want, but touch me, and I'll take you apart in a heartbeat, and give the scraps to my hubby to deal with.

That being said, if someone has issues curbing their urges in a situation where a woman(or man) is clad in a bikini, or any other type of clothing for that matter, then they themselves are the one with the issue, not me-regardless of what I am wearing-be it full coverage or not. I am not on this earth for you to do with as you please- I am here to live my life unmolested in any way in which I choose. Fully clothed, partially clothed, or completely naked, and dressed in any form or fashion I choose.

Why? because I am a fully functioning part of an intelligent species. A species that is intelligent, self aware, and has morals (for the most part). Those among us who have no moral compass, require help and care to recover who they truly are, those who cannot, require confinement so they are no longer a danger to our society.

I find the original OP's post very disturbing, it's obvious there are issues there. Issues that the need to be looked at, be they male or female, it doesn't matter. Because someday I may run into the OP, and I'd hate to have to rip them apart because "THEY" cant control their urges. I have a bit of information for the OP- it isn't about how "you" see us it's about how "we" see ourselves. The OP needs to get a grip on themselves, and quit making the issue about someone elses clothing.

a reply to: sekerofknowlege

How would we know if they have sexy bodies and great skin though?

Most men can control themselves.

This is nonsense.

a reply to: MRuss

What humanity has to do is stop seeing the human body—-the most natural thing in the world—in such a negative or sexual way. We’ve made sex itself a shameful thing.

So true, but when we accept that sex and sexuality are prime marketable assets, it is going to be very difficult to change the mindset.

Men need to deal with what causes micro sexual tension in them on a dally basis, women can be dressed modestly and it still happens. Going to the beach only accelerates what is happening every day anyways. It's something called self-control. If you are a man and you don't have it in this area, you are going to turn into a creep like Harvey Weinstein. With the "metoo" revelations from women, it seems many men can't handle the visual stimulation. It's not the women's fault some men can't handle what they should have learned to do as teenagers.

That being said, women need to understand a certain percentage of men have never learnt how to deal with it, and this has negative consequences for them. Let's not be naive on this topic. It certainly isn't fair. But why would women dress themselves in provocative clothing in any area of the world that is known to have a very high rate of sexual assaults ? Certainly it is their right, but it shows a gross lack of street smarts.

a reply to: sekerofknowlege

I find stuff like this all a bit..... disconnected.

Women covering is controlling, men not being hold their control is all a bit sexist and religious scriptures or getting boring.

We have become less of a stupid human to just follow what a book mumbles about, considering nothing good has ever come from it.

Ah, so tiring reading such pointless topics, always religious....

a reply to: kerrichin

And you Win the universe! Thank you, immensely for applying logic and reason!

a reply to: sekerofknowlege

Sorry... but I’m pretty sure some of us like looking at the finer things in life.

originally posted by: MRuss
a reply to: sekerofknowlege

I am a female and I understand what you are trying to say.

Based on humanity’s current paradigm you are right. Because our current consciousness has created a reality where nakedness has a lot of negative and uncomfortable connotations, underdressing creates uncomfortable situations.

You didn’t create this paradigm so you shouldn’t be punished for reacting to it and being honest about it.

What humanity has to do is stop seeing the human body—-the most natural thing in the world—in such a negative or sexual way. We’ve made sex itself a shameful thing.

But until we shift our thinking about it all, we have to deal with the reality of how it is now—-and that’s what you are explaining.

I agree with you. I understand.

I don’t dress provacitively because i don’t desire that kind of attention. I am just content being myself and being appreciated for what and how I think.

I truly believe a lot of women have been taught to derive their self esteem from their physical beings rather than from their intelligence and their grounding as a human being.

This is another function of our current society and until we change our minds about it, I’m afraid we’re stuck in this viscous cycle.

What about the role money plays in all this. There are dating sites dedicated to rich guys looking for sexy women to date, there are no shortage of women looking for their next millionaire guy.

I feel like OP is either a muslim or trolling and getting people to say he sounds like one.

Stupid thread.

Yeah if I see a woman wearing super scanty clothing I'm going to think she's an attention whore if not an actual slut, but who cares? You want to show me, I'll politely appreciate it. A bikini (depending) isn't by default slutty or attention whorish.

a reply to: kerrichin

Women aren't to blame. The rapists are always the ones to blame, just as burglars are always the ones to blame when they steal things. Some people try to shift the blame onto the victims so they can avoid liability and legal responsibility for their criminal actions.

a reply to: hopenotfeariswhatweneed

What about the role money plays in all this. There are dating sites dedicated to rich guys looking for sexy women to date, there are no shortage of women looking for their next millionaire guy.

I think the many of promoters of the #Metoo campaign are good examples of those that you speak of in your post.

Being a female, I know that I will be viewed as a traitor, and I am opening myself up to be attacked, but I feel the #Metoo campaign is nailing coffins into heart of the cause.

You can't claim to be strong, independent, and a warrior, then claim you were taken advantage of because you "felt" you had no other option but to sell your body for fame and fortune. Those promoters are marginalizing those that have been true victims of assault and abuse. They are creating a "Chicken Little" situation were people become so desensitized to the reporting of assault that the assaults and abuse becomes expected, and accepted as normal.

Already I am hearing, people say they are tired of hearing about acts that occurred years ago were the supposed victim profited from the act, suddenly calling foul, trying to hang some guy out to dry. This gives the whole "Start By Believing" campaign a black-eye. Real victims of assault and abuse are the ones that are being hurt, and unfortunately, have no where to go and have no recourse, unlike their famous wealthy "Metoo supporters.

-Rant off.

originally posted by: hopenotfeariswhatweneed

originally posted by: MRuss
a reply to: sekerofknowlege

I am a female and I understand what you are trying to say.

Based on humanity’s current paradigm you are right. Because our current consciousness has created a reality where nakedness has a lot of negative and uncomfortable connotations, underdressing creates uncomfortable situations.

You didn’t create this paradigm so you shouldn’t be punished for reacting to it and being honest about it.

What humanity has to do is stop seeing the human body—-the most natural thing in the world—in such a negative or sexual way. We’ve made sex itself a shameful thing.

But until we shift our thinking about it all, we have to deal with the reality of how it is now—-and that’s what you are explaining.

I agree with you. I understand.

I don’t dress provacitively because i don’t desire that kind of attention. I am just content being myself and being appreciated for what and how I think.

I truly believe a lot of women have been taught to derive their self esteem from their physical beings rather than from their intelligence and their grounding as a human being.

This is another function of our current society and until we change our minds about it, I’m afraid we’re stuck in this viscous cycle.

What about the role money plays in all this. There are dating sites dedicated to rich guys looking for sexy women to date, there are no shortage of women looking for their next millionaire guy.

And there is no shortage of a millionaire guy looking for his next toss-away woman.

a reply to: NightSkyeB4Dawn

I would agree with you, this whole mess will only hurt abuse victims in the long run.

originally posted by: InTheLight

originally posted by: hopenotfeariswhatweneed

originally posted by: MRuss
a reply to: sekerofknowlege

I am a female and I understand what you are trying to say.

Based on humanity’s current paradigm you are right. Because our current consciousness has created a reality where nakedness has a lot of negative and uncomfortable connotations, underdressing creates uncomfortable situations.

You didn’t create this paradigm so you shouldn’t be punished for reacting to it and being honest about it.

What humanity has to do is stop seeing the human body—-the most natural thing in the world—in such a negative or sexual way. We’ve made sex itself a shameful thing.

But until we shift our thinking about it all, we have to deal with the reality of how it is now—-and that’s what you are explaining.

I agree with you. I understand.

I don’t dress provacitively because i don’t desire that kind of attention. I am just content being myself and being appreciated for what and how I think.

I truly believe a lot of women have been taught to derive their self esteem from their physical beings rather than from their intelligence and their grounding as a human being.

This is another function of our current society and until we change our minds about it, I’m afraid we’re stuck in this viscous cycle.

What about the role money plays in all this. There are dating sites dedicated to rich guys looking for sexy women to date, there are no shortage of women looking for their next millionaire guy.

And there is no shortage of a millionaire guy looking for his next toss-away woman.

We live in a throw away world and its not limited to inanimate objects. Morals are corrupt especially for the rich who can buy their way out of trouble.

a reply to: blkdog

In general, I don't mind being admired from afar, look all you want, but touch me, and I'll take you apart in a heartbeat, and give the scraps to my hubby to deal with. 

But damn I love me a strong, confident ,fiery woman !

Inform your husband I am jealous and please remind him how lucky he is..

Also, do you have a sister?







Respectfully,
~meathead

a reply to: Mike Stivic

The way things are going, you'll be on a chain gang for those comments by 2022.

a reply to: Kandinsky

It was a compliment, I was not hitting on her.

Asking about a sister infers that her parents did a great job raising her.

If I came across as rude I sincerely apologize.

EtA:

I'm trying to figure out if your comment was tongue in cheek humor or if what I said could really be misconstrued as disrespectful.



Respectfully,
~meathead

a reply to: Mike Stivic

I'm trying to figure out if your comment was tongue in cheek humor or if what I said could really be misconstrued as disrespectful.

Well, that will depend completely on the person.

I saw a woman get cursed out because she dared great a stranger with a simple "Good morning."

The woman went ballistic. Telling the other woman that she didn't know her and didn't know if her morning was a good one or not. She ranted for a good five minutes about all the horrible things that she could have had to deal with that day and that she had no right to wish her a good morning.

Yeah folks, things have definitely gone to hell in a hand-basket.

a reply to: Mike Stivic

I was being a satirical rascal.

Compliments are being rebranded as sexual harassment.