Why I Believe Women Should Cover Up More!

a reply to: Mclaneinc

And you great sir, wins the Enlightenment Award. Thank you man! Congrats on the marriage! And many more happy Years to you both. Just when I think the oxygen ran out, a few clutch fellow thinkers surface. Gives me life

Holy moly...

Threads like these always make me wonder if people know The Handmaids Tale is a warning and not an instruction manual.

Young women/girls are being conditioned to look sexy - the media basically states - look shaggable or be invisible.

a reply to: sekerofknowlege

this is whats wrong with the world :

people like you expect others to modify thier behaviour because you are incapable of acting in a civilised manner

a reply to: Itisnowagain
I am very pleased that you posted this video. Unfortunately, I can tell you from personal experience that it will have little impact on those that most need to hear the message.

I work with the results and outcomes of our pornified culture and even after a traumatic event, the parents still are in denial that their children are making themselves vulnerable willfully, because they buy into the lie they are being sold.

Culture tells women you are strong, and you have the right to wear, say, and do, whatever you please, and by doing so you will be admired, respected, accepted, and desired.

So our young girls go out into the world dressed to be seen, without underwear, taunting their male peers, often while under the influence of drugs, yes alcohol is a drug, and then they are surprised that they end up as one of my patients.

The parents that paid for the pornified attire, are often the ones that transported or paid for the transportation to the unsupervised event where the crime occurred, will almost never take responsibility for failing to see the danger signs along the way.

Because of the area that I cover, I would guess that about 10% of my patients are male. It is not about being tough and having the ability to kick someone's ass or tear off someone's balls. Being big and bad does not always prevent a person from being raped. In fact, some of my patients had outcomes that were escalated because they thought they could defend themselves with bravado and a kick ass attitude.

Before the flood gates open, let me assure you that I am not condoning sexual assault in any form, nor am I saying that anyone asked to be assaulted because of the way they dressed or acted. I am saying that we live in a world that sells one thing and delivers something else. I am saying that we live in a world that young people are not safe to walk around half naked, underwear less, presenting a, "desire me" personification. All the #MeToos in the world is not going to undo the trauma that earned them the MeToo badge of comradeship.

Flame away.

a reply to: sekerofknowlege

Hang on you are forgetting that a large percentage of these women want you to look at them and lust after them!
and also you are forgetting bikini or no , men still have lustful thoughts about women and vice versa
as long as you arent a creep and you respect women , and vice versa men and women should be able to have lustful thoughts about others !

Your analogy to heroin doesnt make sense , as having lustful "thoughts" isnt really as harmful or detrimental to society as heroin

I think people should be able to think as they please, its their actions that truly count, what humans always forget is that we arent all good, we have bad in us too and we never accept that fact , we hide it like its not real
and that a good person couldnt possibly have bad thoughts !

a reply to: sekerofknowlege

Wow. Just wow. I really really hope you're young... as in under 25 years old... because youth is the best excuse and in this case, perhaps the only excuse -- albeit a piss poor one at that.

Let me preface this comment by saying that I taught my daughter exactly what I was taught: Don't advertise what isn't for sale... and when you've really got it, you don't have to flaunt it. Having said that, it's not because there's anything wrong with a woman's flesh and curves, but because of men like you who refuse to respect others. I lock my house and car too... not because I have anything to be ashamed of or because I'm doing anything wrong, but to stop others who are/will do bad things. I have passwords for all my online accounts... not because I'm doing anything wrong, but because of others doing bad things. See the point I'm making? I take precautions for MY safety and benefit... not because I'm doing anything wrong, but because of others who do wrong.

Interestingly, you felt no compunction to tell your peers... your fellow men... to do the right thing -- for themselves, for their own conscience, their own sense of morality. Nope. You gave them a free pass. In fact, even worse, you make THEM the victims of pretty much every female alive! "Oh you poor thing! That dirty woman didn't bind her breasts and you actually saw the protrusion under her clothing? Damn her to hell!!! She MADE YOU RAPE HER!!!"

Ever heard of child molestation? Of course you have... do you blame the babies for the crime of their abusers? Is that diaper just too much to resist? How about bestiality? Heard of that? Of course you have... do you blame the animals for the crime of their abusers? Is it their fault for running around all naked and showing the whole world their genitals? How about men who rape old women? Is it the old lady's fault for just being too damn sexy??? How about patients abused while under anesthesia? Oh wait... must be THEIR fault because they undressed when they were told to, right???

Rape is a crime of power, not lust or passion. Men who rape want to control and exercise power over that woman... probably every woman... and you are doing THE EXACT SAME THING. You want to control what women wear and don't wear... you want to control what women do and don't do... you want to tell women who and what they should be and shouldn't be... And you blame women for your inability and/or unwillingness to control yourself.

As I said, I really really hope you're young and still have some learning to do... and that you do learn. Otherwise, I hope and pray you get some professional help.

And for what it's worth, when I see the way women -- and girls -- are sexualized today, it sickens me... and I pity those who have bought into it. But when we see how the ones with the power and influence over society -- the politicians, the media, the Hollywood power brokers, etc. -- have been promoting this "sexual revolution" and all the while sexually abusing women with impunity, it makes more sense...

Religion, always the the fashion police.

I'm pretty sure there a verse in the Bible were both men an woman clothing have to be the same colour, no matching, lest be sent to hell.

It can go both ways man, if women in the east are covered most of the time, and yet still some how trigger the innate instincts of the male mating driving. Then there not going to be any easy solution. How often is an eastern women harassed or assualt compared to their western counter parts?

Maybe, it make the forbidden fruit all the more enticing? What under that....long ass robe?

Btw, if one dress like a cop, I'll think your a cop, dress like a hooker, I'll think your a hooker. Dress like Batgirl, then it ether Halloween or a very nerdy fetish.

I am a woman and I couldn't agree more. I remember as a young woman being taught the importance of how you dress. Showing skin can be done in such a way that it is tasteful and sexy. My mother you'd to say "If you serve it out on a silver platter, don't be surprised when people "take" you." I'm 60. Not dead yet. I like to look good myself. I admire a woman who dresses sexy but powerful. However, Hollywood has made the impression on young women that a whole lot less is better. Then they wonder why we have a "me to" campaign. How stupid!

originally posted by: Murgatroid
a reply to: JimNasium

Ahhh so, I stand corrected...

Or 'belay my last' as those at sea would say.

The MOST IMPORTANT RELATIONSHIP anyOne is going to have is the Self/Creator so why would One risk this by having a 3rd party give their opinion? Any 'Shrine' that One would 'visit' primary function is to 'stay open' or else why would the Television Evangelist wearing sparkly trinkets airing on their very own broadcasting system continue to NEED the retiree's retirement check?

While We are at it.. Many just celebrated Jesus' Naming Day (a 'birthday' would mean 'death' and Jesus Lives..) who is the absolute LAST GUY who'd want You to cut down a perfectly LIVING tree and then put 'gifts' under? Jesus thats who..

a reply to: Boadicea

You are putting words in my mouth. I clearly said if a man acts on his dirty thoughts, he is still the one responsible for his actions. I am not saying that its a womens fault that a man commits a heinous act.

Also, if you dig through some of the comments, i did write that i believe all HUMANS should cover up, as a man walking down the street shirtless is caveman like, primitive behavior. With that said, i didnt feel a need to mention this in the original post because women dont lust (as much ) for a mans physical features as men do for women. So its not apples to apples.

Lastly , theres a considerable amount of people that my message resonates with, mostly women! So , as i mentioned in the OP , we can simply agree to disagree and keep it civilized. No need for hard feelings. It may not seem like it, but my message came from a pure place, as i truly love and respect women. I am simply trying to raise more awareness and challenging both genders to take steps in our behavior so we can slowly change our somewhat sexually sadistic society.

That is all.

a reply to: sekerofknowlege

I just recently left the artic east coast where its winter, and everybody naturally wears layers of clothing, to the tropics, and seeing females in bikini's everywhere and purposely accentuating their sexual parts is a massive sensory overload. Immediately this biblical quote comes to mind: "But I say unto you, That whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart." (Matthew 5:28) I whole heartedly believe in the truthfulness in that quote, as everything in existence started out firstly as a thought ("everything is mental" is a hermetic principle) . Before a killer kills somebody, he thinks about doing it. In fact, everything around you and the current state of your life is a result of your thoughts; conscious or subconscious. If your looking at a girl in a bikini and are thinking dirty thoughts, you already committed that sin in the Creators eyes, as you planted the seeds for that action to manifest in the future.

I agree with the start of your post.

then it gets a little cloudy and dark and paints a picture, a rude picture of you being a 15 year old that cant keep his hands of his ..........um well I think we know what I am saying.

Now females, you are not making it any easier for us by wearing such provocative clothing! Ultimately, yes its the mans fault for having dirty thoughts, and if he actually acts on those thoughts; I am not putting all the blame on the female.

Life is a test.


not putting ALL the blame on females just shows what an utter failure your test results may be if keep this mind set.

But, let me give you an analogy; if you place a heroin addict in an environment that flaunts heroin like its the cool thing, and even stick it in front of his face, and he finally caves in and uses, is it 100% his fault, or should the people around him face come accountability as well? Well, females, unfortunately many males can be likened to heroin addicts when it comes to sex! Many males (about 85%) are sex fiends of varying degree. Only a small amount of males can say that they can look at an attractive women and not think about sex, and see her for the amazing human that she is.

Yes,

it is 100% the addicts fault not the environments.

You seem to have no control over your thoughts or scarily your actions if you think this analogy can compare.

Yes, one can addicted to sex but having dependency to a drug and being a sex addict is no comparison on a deeper level.

Again, I'm not pointing the finger at any one gender as both genders need to play their parts, but this message is aimed at the females, as this one crucial yet simple change in wearing more clothing when out in public can cause a domino effect in the behavior of both genders. The private, erotic body parts should be reserved only for your mate, not to the public at large.

Women need to cover up more and men need to be more conscious of their thoughts.

Women and men are not that different.

Lustful thinking and provocative dress is not gender specific, with your rant you have just made it so


Which like I said paints a rather ugly picture of who you are based on your thoughts.

Actually, i do believe men shouldn't walk around shirtless neither. Its quite primitive in my opinion.

OK fair enough.

however....

But its still different; a women doesn't lust for a mans physical features like men do women. Women are attracted to other things than looks, like status in society, among other things.

I think you need to meet some more women and get to know the opposite sex a little better.

Women can lust for a mans body just as much as man can for a women's.



I have to say,

the poster ignorant Ape on page 5, 4 posts down says it harshly but perfectly.


You need to discover yourself so you can have better control over your thoughts and actions.

Too many people think they know who they are but they are only fooling them selves.

a reply to: Boadicea

And for what it's worth, when I see the way women -- and girls -- are sexualized today, it sickens me... and I pity those who have bought into it. But when we see how the ones with the power and influence over society -- the politicians, the media, the Hollywood power brokers, etc. -- have been promoting this "sexual revolution" and all the while sexually abusing women with impunity, it makes more sense...

And now it is cool to be a member of the "I Too Was Sexually Assaulted Club." Another way they promote and advertise your right to be exactly what they want you to be and to feel good about being victimized in the process. Of course they have a solution to the problem, they will soon have rules and regulations that will be put into place that will assure them that they will be able to continue their agenda.

Someone mentioned a "Handmaid's Tale" as a precautionary tale. It definitely is something to consider. I would add: “Better never means better for everyone... It always means worse, for some.”

― Margaret Atwood, The Handmaid's Tale.

This form of empowerment is creating a set of problems of its own. I think we all agree that the only person we have the right to control is ourselves. Saying that, we have to also accept they we don't have the power to control what other think or feel but we can influence their thoughts and behavior.

We often forget the power that influence can have on others whether it is something as simple as a smile or a wave. Both can be deadly or life saving depending on the circumstances. In some cases you can be blindsided, no matter how careful you are, but being aware and anticipating likely possibilities, will put you way ahead of the game.

a reply to: sekerofknowlege

Women will continue to dress this way as they have been objectified for centuries.

Look at women's "fashion" over recent centuries. Their breasts are bulging out of their corsets, but it was a huge sin to show even their ankles.

Ridiculous.

The way women dress today though is disgusting. Some of them dress like pigs.

a reply to: Subaeruginosa

Yes. And as I suggested in another thread recently looking at it from a biological reproductive imperative women dress for other women - trying at the subconscious level to attract the most successful male for her progenies continuance

a reply to: Nyiah

Today's women are no Audrey Hepburn.

I couldn't decide between Audrey and Grace Kelly. Such a great era of class and beauty ( but it was only a hollyweird dream )

originally posted by: sekerofknowlege
a reply to: Boadicea

You are putting words in my mouth.

Nope. You were very clear in blaming women. Not an ounce of concern for them as victims... not advice to protect themselves from the abusers, but to protect the abusers.

I clearly said if a man acts on his dirty thoughts, he is still the one responsible for his actions. I am not saying that its a womens fault that a man commits a heinous act.

Too little, too late.

Also, if you dig through some of the comments, i did write that i believe all HUMANS should cover up, as a man walking down the street shirtless is caveman like, primitive behavior.

Well, um, whatever... but I live in the desert. I will dress appropriately for the weather and climate... That means my arms and legs will be visible.

Lastly , theres a considerable amount of people that my message resonates with, mostly women!

Ahem. Yes. Women will blame other women for different reasons -- jealousy, vanity, narcissism -- but it sure doesn't make it right. Much the same way poor people will blame rich people for flaunting their riches and getting robbed... "Well, if he wasn't flashing that gold rolex... or wearing those spiffy tennies... or living in such a grand house... it wouldn't have happened." Folks find lots of ways to blame victims.

It may not seem like it, but my message came from a pure place, as i truly love and respect women. I am simply trying to raise more awareness and challenging both genders to take steps in our behavior so we can slowly change our somewhat sexually sadistic society.

That is all.

If that were indeed true, then you would have explained to women just what beasts too many men are and how/why it's necessary to protect themselves... and it wouldn't have had anything to do with slut-shaming and victim blaming. No one -- NO ONE -- is responsible for anyone's bad behavior except themselves.

a reply to: NightSkyeB4Dawn

And now it is cool to be a member of the "I Too Was Sexually Assaulted Club." Another way they promote and advertise your right to be exactly what they want you to be and to feel good about being victimized in the process.

Yes! I'm so glad others are seeing that as well. I know there are those who never let a good crisis go to waste... and it seems that's exactly what's happening here. So many "#MeToo" stories and not nearly enough "I-kicked-him-where-it-counted" stories. The victimhood is promoted and glorified.

Don't tell us how to be victims dammit! Tell us how to be the victors!!!

Of course they have a solution to the problem, they will soon have rules and regulations that will be put into place that will assure them that they will be able to continue their agenda.

That's exactly what I'm afraid is happening.

Someone mentioned a "Handmaid's Tale" as a precautionary tale. It definitely is something to consider. I would add: “Better never means better for everyone... It always means worse, for some.”

― Margaret Atwood, The Handmaid's Tale.

I have seen that analogy but I'm not familiar with the story. I'll have to check that out -- thank you for reminding me.

We often forget the power that influence can have on others whether it is something as simple as a smile or a wave. Both can be deadly or life saving depending on the circumstances. In some cases you can be blindsided, no matter how careful you are, but being aware and anticipating likely possibilities, will put you way ahead of the game.

Yes. We can take reasonable precautions for reasonable risks, but we cannot prepare for (much less prevent) every possible eventuality. Especially because the bad people doing bad things are anticipating such precautions, and thus find the chinks in the armor. That's what predators do.

a reply to: rickymouse

Boy, I sure am glad I didn't start this thread, buying all the women new clothes would bankrupt me.

Dont sell yourself short - you could help her with your extensive food knowledge rather than buying her clothes - and she could in turn be grateful.