President Trump just declared a national emergency

a reply to: JBurns

I’m a democrat. I Do not want trump gone. Not for impeachment at all. When the democrats win back the majority, they can work with trump without fake deficit hawks.

a reply to: intrptr

That's exactly what I took from it but might be farther reaching as well.

So, I guess Putin can no longer visit the United States, then, ...Hmmmm,...

a reply to: MOMof3


This, precisely. We all know there is a very good chance a Dem will be in office again (and then a Rep, then a Dem, then a Rep ) assuming no one sets a dangerous precedent by removing him. I'd hate to see how future Presidents will be treated, but at least we aren't in coup/banana republic territory yet

originally posted by: the owlbear

Not really. He can't shake things up too much without Trump University being brought up again, or His other bankruptcies that amount to the GDP of some third world nations.
Saying "locker room talk" isn't going to save him the next round of that also.

An so here we go... What does either of these two things have anything to do with corrupt politicians? Even with both being a dead horse, every dead horse...the assumption is Trump has too much to hide and it seems we are finding out he doesn't...lol

You like apples.....lol

originally posted by: TrueBrit

At no time did I suggest that people should not be paying their taxes. What I said is that by doing so, they become complicit in the funding and enactment of efforts to remove the human rights of others, and that is an actual fact.

Join the club then Mr. Brit...

It is upon peoples elected representatives, to ensure that their money is never spent on these matters, that their government is never complicit in these matters, that no one who has ever or will ever represent the country in any regard at all, ever comports themselves in a manner which causes, directly or otherwise, the removal of or violation of human rights, for any person or people on the face of the world.

When they fail, they damage their nations reputation and bring the entire taxpaying public into dangerous realms, legally speaking.

Never ever going to happen anywhere on earth, so point noted, but your utopia is a fairy tale.

a reply to: projectvxn

Is he then going after himself?

originally posted by: StallionDuck
a reply to: intrptr

That's exactly what I took from it but might be farther reaching as well.

It is farther reaching, Us uses its aid programs as leverage against the worlds nations. Once the poor in a country get used to the food aid the uS sends, the uS cuts it off to coerce the nations leadership into favorable decisions, or else the (now hungry) people might revolt.

Its another form of Sanction, euphemistically hiding behind benign terminology.

a reply to: drock905

This puts me in mind of a thread by esteemed member Vasa Croe:

Mueller working directly FOR Trump....EO13223 Ammendment...

In which it was learned the executive order in question had the effect of extending both the time limit and number of military service members that could be recalled to active duty during a presidentially declared national emergency.

originally posted by: Jerseymilker
a reply to: projectvxn

Is he then going after himself?

Right?!

I pictured him doing this while drugged and under threat of torture. Whether or not this hurts him now, it will most certainly hurt him later.

I'm not sure what to think of the law itself; I had no idea something like that existed. It seems super easy to exploit.

originally posted by: DISRAELI
a reply to: drock905

It also blocks the property and interests in property of any foreign person determined by the Secretary of the Treasury, in consultation with the Secretary of State and the Attorney General..

Please take note of the word "foreign", guys, before you jump on the idea that this is against American politicians.
It could work, though, as a tool against more international power figures.
It by-passes normal procedures, which opponents might block, by stretching the concept of "national emergency" to breaking point.

Allow that those 'aliens' can turn state's evidence and purchase immunity by testifying against U.S. citizens.....

a reply to: the owlbear

Even the best businessmen have some failures.

a reply to: drock905

Yes. Just the beginning. Hundreds of indictments to be unsealed on 1.3.2018.

originally posted by: the owlbear

originally posted by: projectvxn
a reply to: hopenotfeariswhatweneed

Yeah, but did you actually read the OP?

It looks like Trump is going after corrupt politicians

Not really. He can't shake things up too much without Trump University being brought up again, or His other bankruptcies that amount to the GDP of some third world nations.
Saying "locker room talk" isn't going to save him the next round of that also.

My gosh... what on earth are you even talking about?

The TU dog don't hunt... and his company bankruptcies? Really?

Given we are talking about Donald Trump... surely you can come up with some better pickled herring than that!

GM Bankruptcy

originally posted by: Wardaddy454
This kills the Clinton Foundation.

How? They aren't named anywhere in the executive order.

a reply to: KansasGirl

If any of those affected by the declaration are donors, it means another source of funding dries up for them.

a reply to: KansasGirl

there are ties to many members and donors of the clinton foundation in the 13 listed names

www.washingtonblade.com... this one has ties to obama

Gambian activists on Thursday criticized the Obama administration over what they maintain is its lack of response to anti-LGBT persecution and other human rights abuses in their West African country. Banka Manneh, chair of Civil Society Associations Gambia, noted during a roundtable at the Robert F. Kennedy Center for Justice and Human Rights in Northwest Washington the European Union in 2012 called upon President Yahya Jammeh to implement 17 reforms after his government executed nine prisoners. These include the repeal of the death penalty and ensuring freedom of media in his West African country. The EU earlier this year delayed a 150 million euro aid package to Gambia. “I have to really say unfortunately on the United States end we haven’t seen much progress,” said Manneh. “Most of the progress that we have had so far has been on the European Union side.”

thats one of the 13 supporting link as well note in the first link obama hanging out with the guy named www.strategic-culture.org...

www.theguardian.com... this guy is named for rigging elections,now who over saw those elections to "maintain integrity" www.washingtonpost.com... bafaff

Ortega's announcement added a new element of tension in the already polarized country. But it seemed unlikely to find much popular backing or to alter the outcome. J. Brian Atwood, President Clinton's envoy to monitor the elections, along with former president Jimmy Carter, the European Union and a Nicaraguan monitoring group all had declared the elections fraud-free.

Brian atwood sent there by president clinton who certified that there was no corruption when aparently there was

Dan Gertler is named he has ties to Glencore which was founded by Marc rich who was pardoned by Bill clinton amp.theguardian.com...

A secretive multinational company worth billions, whose founder turned fugitive was pardoned by a president. An Israeli diamond tycoon, rumoured to be the inspiration for a Hollywood blockbuster. And a struggling African nation, blessed and burdened by natural resources, riven by war and corruption. Behind the black letters of the Paradise Papers lies a world of extraordinary colour. Obtained by the German newspaper Süddeutsche Zeitung, and shared with the International Consortium of Investigative Journalists, the Guardian and more than 90 media partners across the globe, the Paradise Papers reveal the reality of the arcane world of offshore tax havens and global finance.

www.motherjones.com... another one mentioned for the massacres of the Rhoningya ,clinton wanted to lift sanctions on burma who is now up to all kinds of shady shenigans

But Clinton wanted to push things further. Rather than isolating Burma with sweeping sanctions, as the international community had done in the past, she encouraged the Obama administration to offer the new Burmese government concessions like development assistance in exchange for a commitment to improve human rights. Four years later, as she makes her bid for the White House, Clinton is pointing to Burma’s political transition as a prime example of her foreign policy leadership. During her opening statement at October’s Benghazi hearing, Clinton steered her audience to consider her success in Burma: “I worked with the Republican leader, Senator Mitch McConnell, to open up Burma, now Myanmar, to find democratic change,” she asserted. In her 2014 memoir, Hard Choices, she devoted an entire chapter to this endeavor: “While the Arab Spring was losing its luster in the Middle East, Burma was giving the world new hope that it is indeed possible to transition peacefully from dictatorship to democracy,” she wrote. Progress in Burma, she noted, was making the Obama administration’s pivot to Asia look like a success, and affirming “the unique role the United States can and should play in the world as a champion of dignity and democracy.” It was an example, she wrote, of “America at our best.”

theintercept.com... ties to this one as well after lifiting sanctions for their use of child soilders

Rebel forces in southern Sudan began using child soldiers long before seceding from Sudan in 2011. The United States, on the other hand, passed a law in 2008 that banned providing military assistance to nations that use child soldiers. The law was called the Child Soldiers Prevention Act, or CSPA, but after South Sudan’s independence, the White House issued annual waivers that kept aid flowing to the world’s newest nation despite its use of child soldiers. President Obama stated in 2012 that the waiver that year was in “the national interest of the United States.” The president’s move was criticized by human rights activists and others. Rep. Jeff Fortenberry, a Republican from Nebraska and the author of the CSPA, described the use of child soldiers as an “unthinkable practice.” The U.S. “must not be complicit in this practice,” he said. “The intent of the law is clear — the waiver authority should be used as a mechanism for reform, not as a way of continuing the status quo.” Because of the requirements of the law, the waivers were issued by the White House rather than the State Department, so Obama was the target of most of the criticism.

he is one of the ones mentioned in trumps EO

the uzbeck on the list? www.reuters.com...

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The Clinton Foundation on multiple occasions during Hillary Clinton’s tenure as secretary of state asked senior U.S. government officials to vet her husband’s contacts with potentially controversial international figures, according to emails released by the State Department. U.S. Democratic presidential nominee Hillary Clinton speaks during a rally at Lincoln High School in Des Moines, Iowa August 10, 2016. REUTERS/Chris Keane/File Photo The emails, reviewed by Reuters, were part of a batch of nearly 400 messages recently released by the State Department after requests from the conservative group Citizens United, a group that has long been critical of the Clintons. Sponsored The exchanges show a top foreign policy adviser to the foundation sought guidance from the State Department on former President Bill Clinton’s interactions with people including Syrian President Bashar al-Assad, Russian government officials and business leaders, and Gulnara Karimova, the socialite daughter of Uzbekistan’s late president.

so its like 6 degrees of sepperation from the clintons and in this link the clinton foundation as she is listed in the EO (Gulnara karimova)
cont

investmentwatchblog.com...

Knowing all this and knowing how Odebrecht operates there’s a couple of really interesting things to look at. First that Odebrecht received all the initial contracts with the new temporary Libyan government that formed after the 2011 Civil war in the country that saw Gaddafi over thrown. Second that Odebrecht gave the Clinton Foundation anywhere between $50,000-$100,000 dollars. And we know Odebrecht had a sophisticated bribery payment system to conceal their payments so there’s a good chance that it was a lot more than that. They did give out billions in bribes after all, not exactly stingy guys at Odebrecht. That’s all very coincidental on the surface until you consider this email chain from the Clinton emails

also listed donated 100k to the clinton foundation there are a bevvy of links at above link in the article

so yeah this does look like trump is up to something special with this one and hes managing to do it with bipartisan support this time i mean even Buzzfeed is thrilled about this EO

a reply to: drock905

This is not surprising or new news in the slightest. Trump has been talking about pursuing human rights criminals since he announced his run for POTUS. Most people were so caught up being led around by their noses by the MSM they probably aren't even aware of the many public meetings where Trump has repeatedly stated he was going to pursue these people and prosecute them.

We will certainly be prepared for the hyperventilating left to attempt to explain this as something other than what it is. Can't wait to hear their absolute meltdown episode #1,450 of 2017.

a reply to: MOMof3

how are diamond sellers,arms dealers ,corrupt politicians ,those committing ethnic cleansing ,those that help rig elections the "low class" or the organ theif one?