It's official , Jerusalem is Israel's capital - Trump

a reply to: Peeple

you must be a bot as your answer has absolutely nothing to do with the comment I made which you are supposedly responding to. If you are not a bot then I'm at a loss to explain why you keep answering me by ignoring everything I said. You must realize that everybody else can see my post and realized that you arguing about things I have not said.

I think there is complete confusion with this post. ufoor and peeble do not make any valid argument other than saying that Israel zionist are saint and anyone who says otherwise are racist. I see no point in continuing this discussion which was getting really interesting until it got torpedoed.

a reply to: enkilo

Haha the sneaky way out Israel is an oasis of happiness for all its people. A vision for all of Planet Earth's humanity. A leading light to the world. A true miracle in what 70 years of life. Try being a Jew and walking through of Algiers or Baghdad, you'd get lynched. Walk as a muslim through Tel Aviv and you will be respected all the way. A tolerance of uniqueness in a region full of savagery where violence is the way of the natives. Israel brings European civilisation to the new world just like it was brought to the Americas, southern Africa, Australia, etc. It is proven to be a better way of living, democracy wins every time as proven by those other flourishing settler states

a reply to: ufoorbhunter

I call bot. the only thing that makes sense.

a reply to: ufoorbhunter

what flourishing settler state. you mean those who make their fortunes by raping and pillaging others native land. Name one of those flourishing democracy and i show you their less than saintly foundation

a reply to: ufoorbhunter

you having me on. no one can be that dense.

a reply to: enkilo

Settler states flourishing -

Morocco
Tunisia
Bangladesh
Algeria

All these countries are flourishing after being settled by peoples from Arabia over the past millennia. Since these places got settled by the Arabs they to put it bluntly, have never had it so good

a reply to: ufoorbhunter

so you've chickened out of naming those states huh? wonder why?

originally posted by: enkilo
a reply to: ufoorbhunter

so you've chickened out of naming those states huh? wonder why?

Hahhahahaha it's you who will not accept that the Islamics ARE part of the settler movement and are part of the same western Abrahamic society. Look I just listed some of those successful settler states above. We in the West like to move around be we Arab, Jew, Muslim, Christian, whatever..................... We settle in other places, but not only us but everybody on Planet Earth. We are born we learn to crawl, then we waddle, then we walk, then WE RUN! We are human beings Enkilo, we are all the same. WE ALL MOVE AROUND the Planet earth

a reply to: ufoorbhunter

I could not care less about the Islamic settlers. You keep not getting me. I AM AN ATHEIST. I have no respect for any religion, much less a barbaric religion like Islam. All my post have been about defending the Palestinian people who are suffering under the yoke of Apartheid. Not their religion. Bangladesh is one of the poorest nations on earth.Morocco,Tunisia and Algeria are hardly shining beacons.

a reply to: ufoorbhunter

And what exactly is European civilization? You mean those countries like Spain, Portugal, England who raped Africa and the Americas of their resources?

a reply to: enkilo

Stop making this about religion as i could not care less about religion

originally posted by: enkilo
a reply to: ufoorbhunter

All my post have been about defending the Palestinian people who are suffering under the yoke of Apartheid.

The real suffering endured by the people left on the wrong side of the Jordan following their defeat is their own leadership who have gone out of their way to scupper a realistic peace deal with Israel. They had a real chance in the 90's to get a decent deal but Yasser turned it down. Decades later and millions of new settlers from Russia, Ethiopia and the USA and things are getting a bit late for a decent deal. Nevertheless it looks like Trump and the Saudis are going to try and pull a deal out of the hat so let's give them a chance

a reply to: ufoorbhunter

trump is a Zionist puppet and the house of Saud are a bunch of inbred barbarians. There will be no peace deal because the Zionist does not want a peace deal even if many of Israel people do. The Palestinians leadership are indeed corrupt and ineffective but that does not excuse what the Zionist are doing to the Palestinians civilians that include children and woman.

originally posted by: enkilo
a reply to: ufoorbhunter

trump is a Zionist puppet and the house of Saud are a bunch of inbred barbarians. There will be no peace deal because the Zionist does not want a peace deal even if many of Israel people do. The Palestinians leadership are indeed corrupt and ineffective but that does not excuse what the Zionist are doing to the Palestinians civilians that include children and woman.

So both sides kill women and children. Why do you single out the Jews?

a reply to: enkilo

I have no love for the Palestinian leadership. They are even more guilty than the Zionist for what is happening in Palestine. They could have done their best with what they are given to make their people lives slightly more tolerable but instead, they sold out to the Zionist and took what was given to enrich themselves.

a reply to: DJW001

I'm singling out the zionist because they are the occupying power. It's human nature to fight back against oppression. I have no love for Hamas because they have not helped The Palestinians cause one bit and are as brutal a regime as their Zionist masters.This thread has mainly been about Israel brutal occupation of Palestine so we have not talked much about Hamas, although I have said that they serve the Zionist cause, whether they realized it or not. Which is why even when it considered them a terrorist organization, it keeps providing fund to them knowing full well they would use it to make useless rocket and built tunnel. Who else would provide its enemies with resources to fight you with and use it to stay in power? Come on, the Zionist are not stupid, they know exactly what they are doing. A totally peaceful resistance from the Palestinians would have made their brutal occupation infinitely more difficult and damaging to their international image as oppose to when they can say they are fighting Islamic terrorism.

originally posted by: enkilo
a reply to: ufoorbhunter

There will be no peace deal because the Zionist does not want a peace deal even if many of Israel people do.

Ahhh for once we agree me old Enk The general public in Israel do want peace, especially those living outside Jerusalem. If you just leave Jerusalem out of the equation then nobody gives a stuff about keeping the status quo going. Who would want to live in a country that is demonised from much of the outside world while at the same time is surrounded by people that if given the chance would wish them death and destruction and force them out of the eastern Med? All most Israeli's want to do is party, fashion and education etc. As a very dear friend of mine said "we can't live like this" referring to the constant threat of terrorism and war. Most are decent people and its also worth remembering that the majority of Israeli's descend from the Islamic / Arab world, not Europe. A true peace / integration into the wider Levant is very possible

a reply to: ufoorbhunter

huh, who would have thought it. I actually agree with your last comment

To be clear: Israel is actually not an Apartheid state. (I was mistaken in saying so before.)

The ONLY reason any Palestinian in Gaza or the West Bank is not allowed into the main part of Israel is because they were located in those areas at the end of the Six Day war.

Their ethnicity isn't the basis. Many ethnic Palestinian people are allowed to live inside of Israel proper with full citizenship because they stayed during the Six Day War.

In effect, Israel only claims Gaza and the West Bank as territories, or something like that. And really.......... I think the simplest solution would be for those regions to simply secede. And for Israel to relinquish all claim over them.

If they won't take the people, then they're not entitled to the land. (No matter what some invisible man in the sky says)