It's official , Jerusalem is Israel's capital - Trump

originally posted by: 3NL1GHT3N3D1
a reply to: Grambler

Yes, you are very dense. Say a high school bully keeps picking on another kid in school and one day the kid gets fed up with it and punches the bully and they start fighting each other in class, who should get in trouble and who is at fault for the fight? The kid, the bully or both?

Now tell me, what would have been the outcome if the bully never started picking on the kid in the first place? Would there have been a fight at all?

I can keep dumbing it down for you until you understand if you want me to.

maybe you should for yourself.

Both are to blame and the out come of the later is unknown.

They could have fought or they could have not interacted at all.

You are trying to say that there is only one possible outcome for the future when manipulation is at play.


Trump and his handlers must have Godly powers then to know and control all the variables involved in doing something so grand

I can keep dumbing it down for you until you understand if you want me to.

please do,

the more you do so the more readers get their giggles.

Every analogy has actually been against what you are trying to say because you fail to realize that something you believe is a fact may not be.

a reply to: DJW001
The White House has adressed this. Its a technicality. The move will take longer than six months, so he has to the sign the waiver. Otherwise the state department would be in breach of the Jerusalem Embasssy Law.

originally posted by: mightmight
a reply to: DJW001
The White House has adressed this. Its a technicality. The move will take longer than six months, so he has to the sign the waiver. Otherwise the state department would be in breach of the Jerusalem Embasssy Law.

As I pointed out elsewhere, they will need to find a huge, easily defensible tract of land in one of the world's oldest and most crowded cities, where every square foot is either sacred or of archeological interest. Tel Aviv is a modern city that is home to many Israeli government agencies. The embassy is going nowhere.

originally posted by: DJW001

originally posted by: mightmight
a reply to: DJW001
The White House has adressed this. Its a technicality. The move will take longer than six months, so he has to the sign the waiver. Otherwise the state department would be in breach of the Jerusalem Embasssy Law.

As I pointed out elsewhere, they will need to find a huge, easily defensible tract of land in one of the world's oldest and most crowded cities, where every square foot is either sacred or of archeological interest. Tel Aviv is a modern city that is home to many Israeli government agencies. The embassy is going nowhere.

And if the closest land they can find to put it is on the outskirts of the city, 5 miles from city center, you guys will try to spin it as Trump breaking a promise since it's not IN Jerusalem enough for you. The signing of the waiver is still a non-story though. Nice try, #resist, but it's a fail. Everyone with a brain understands why the waiver was signed again.

a reply to: face23785

No, it will simply be evidence that Trump does not understand the realities of the region. Israel is a tiny country. Tel Aviv is the nearest convenient real estate. Meanwhile, he is generating ill will and confusion.

So the world did not end yesterday because of this?
No major terror attacks because of this?
Hmm.....seems there is more outrage about who spoke than actual policy?

a reply to: gortex

Been US policy since 1995 when Congress passed law recognizing Jerusalem as Israel capital

Presidents since then have always waived the law

Russian recognized Jerusalem as capital in April of this year

originally posted by: firerescue
a reply to: gortex

Been US policy since 1995 when Congress passed law recognizing Jerusalem as Israel capital

Presidents since then have always waived the law

Russian recognized Jerusalem as capital in April of this year

The Senate also passed a resolution calling for Trump to move the embassy to Jerusalem in June of this year. It passed 90-0.

originally posted by: face23785

originally posted by: firerescue
a reply to: gortex

Been US policy since 1995 when Congress passed law recognizing Jerusalem as Israel capital

Presidents since then have always waived the law

Russian recognized Jerusalem as capital in April of this year

The Senate also passed a resolution calling for Trump to move the embassy to Jerusalem in June of this year. It passed 90-0.

No it did not. It commemorated the fiftieth anniversary of the reunification of Jerusalem and "reaffirms the Jerusalem Embassy Act of 1995 (Public Law 104–45) as United States law, and call[ed] upon the President and all United States officials to abide by its provisions."
congress.gov...

Significantly, it does not mention Trump by name.

a reply to: gortex

Speaking at the White House, Mr Trump said he had "judged this course of action to be in the best interests of the United States of America, and the pursuit of peace between Israel and the Palestinians".

Translation:

The MICs don't feel that peace between said parties would be in the best interest of united big corp. A nice Antichrist Dick Cheney move to sell more destabilisation, chaos and potential wars with.

Congrats, I guess...

Well .. to all the nay-sayers here.. I can tell you that the European Union as well most privileged muslim countries are very welcoming of this changes.

They might not show that on the surface or in their media campaigns but sure enough it is the right step forward.

20 years+ nothing has changed.. there is no peace process.. there is only terror..

So what the US moves forward with this decision? It's not like it can get worse or something will be lost because there is nothing to loose.

But what it will set is a new tone that says makes it clear that the time of messing around is over and maybe that is actually bringing us closer to peace than before because anything that happened before did not help at all.

The UN security council is expected to meet on Friday to discuss Donald Trump’s recognition of Jerusalem as Israel’s capital, a decision against which condemnation continues to mount across the Middle East and internationally.

Eight countries on the 15-member council requested the meeting, including the UK, Italy and France, amid claims from Palestine and Turkey that Trump’s recognition is in breach of both international law and UN resolutions.

The EU foreign policy chief, Federica Mogherini, said the bloc had united position that Jerusalem must be the capital of both Israel and a future Palestinian state. The Russian foreign ministry said US recognition risked “dangerous and uncontrollable consequences.”

www.theguardian.com...

But... but... but... $hillary! AND DRONEBAMA!!!oneoneeleven

*sigh*

a reply to: gortex

It's to bring on Armageddon and the 2nd Coming of Christ or something like that. You know, Revelations. Rebuild the Temple, etc.

Of course a whole lot of people may die because, well, Armageddon.

originally posted by: PublicOpinion

The UN security council is expected to meet on Friday to discuss Donald Trump’s recognition of Jerusalem as Israel’s capital, a decision against which condemnation continues to mount across the Middle East and internationally.

Eight countries on the 15-member council requested the meeting, including the UK, Italy and France, amid claims from Palestine and Turkey that Trump’s recognition is in breach of both international law and UN resolutions.

The EU foreign policy chief, Federica Mogherini, said the bloc had united position that Jerusalem must be the capital of both Israel and a future Palestinian state. The Russian foreign ministry said US recognition risked “dangerous and uncontrollable consequences.”

www.theguardian.com...

But... but... but... $hillary! AND DRONEBAMA!!!oneoneeleven

*sigh*

Seriously? They are all going off their rockers over this? Good, let's have this arguement. Can't wait as a matter of fact.

Nikki Haley better light them up.

....and yet, the Arab Street hasn't gone bonkers yet.....but it's the end of the world.

Let's see what Friday Prayers end up doing. That's usually when they fire up the masses.

a reply to: pavil

Yes we just had everyone admit that basically trump did what pesidemts have done since 95.

Yet look at how the un and others are feigning outrage.

originally posted by: TheConstruKctionofLight
a reply to: LesMisanthrope

If everyone ate halal food, stopped eating bacon,

Felafel on Pita with Bacon and chili sauce is yummy - a fried caged egg is optional!.

Bacon cures all the worlds problem - its just that the Jews and Muslims haven't caught on yet.

Hmmmm.......

the USA sides with Arabia along side the Saudi & USA financed proxy-Armies of Radical-Sunni-Jihadists

& will undertake a several year project to construct a 'magnificent Embassy' in the ancient City of Jerusalem...

so, I guess 'peaceful' Israel will have a Seat-of-power in "Jerusalem
while the Zionist Israel continues on in Tel Aviv ..... or do I have the two cross-matched



I recall that it will take 3 1/2 years for the AC to reveal himself, he reveals himself as the AC by unveiling the Abomination-of-Desolation in the Temple Wing & causing the Daily Sacrifice to End...
Does 3 1/2 years for Embassy Building sound eerily like the entrance period for the Global Peace-maker to eventually go despotic ?

a reply to: pavil

Seriously? They are all going off their rockers over this? Good, let's have this arguement. Can't wait as a matter of fact.

Seriously? Where is the argument? All I see is trolling and... how would you guys put it... triggered snowflakes? Well. Does the burger perspective even get how and why they're "triggered"?

Calling Abbas to piss him off on a more personal level was rich though. Just what all Presidents did since 95, eh?

Pathetic.

originally posted by: pavil

originally posted by: gortex
a reply to: chr0naut

Turkey is a Muslim country and Jerusalem is sacred to Muslims , America is legitimising Israels claim to Jerusalem by signaling the moving of their embassy.

Is Jerusalem sacred to Jews? What's your point

My point was in answer to why is Turkey upset by the move.

originally posted by: PublicOpinion
a reply to: pavil

Seriously? They are all going off their rockers over this? Good, let's have this arguement. Can't wait as a matter of fact.

Seriously? Where is the argument? All I see is trolling and... how would you guys put it... triggered snowflakes? Well. Does the burger perspective even get how and why they're "triggered"?

Calling Abbas to piss him off on a more personal level was rich though. Just what all Presidents did since 95, eh?

Pathetic.

Do you find it disturbing that the UN is some of those triggered snowflakes?