Flynn charged with one count of making false statement

a reply to: AndyFromMichigan

Because this says they're going higher up the food chain. They have so much on Flynn including conspiracy to kidnap and they charge him with lying? You guys need to ask what he's giving Robert Mueller to get such a sweet deal. Or rather who he's giving mueller.

originally posted by: Sillyolme
a reply to: AndyFromMichigan

They have so much on Flynn including conspiracy to kidnap

There's actually no indication they have that on him. That's just unconfirmed speculation. What else are you wrong about?

originally posted by: Sillyolme
a reply to: AndyFromMichigan

Because this says they're going higher up the food chain. They have so much on Flynn including conspiracy to kidnap and they charge him with lying? You guys need to ask what he's giving Robert Mueller to get such a sweet deal. Or rather who he's giving mueller.

Not really...

It could also say -
* - Flynn lied to the FBI and it ends there.
* - Flynn took the deal to protect his son.
* - Flynn thought it was related to his lobbying for Russia.

etc etc

originally posted by: Xcathdra
a reply to: soberbacchus

Uhm yeah...

Flynn was indicted.

How do you think they got the charge? From a grand jury. Also take note of the dates of the incident.

2016.

Can't help willful ignorance?

See how your doc above says "Count One"

See Manaforts INDICTMENT below:



* A prosecutor does not need a Grand Jury to file a charge and more to the point, wont use a Grand Jury to throw the book at someone if they agree in advance to cooperate. In that scenario, they file a lessor charge and a guilty plea is entered just as everyone agreed too in the cooperation greement.

a reply to: Xcathdra

Love it! Abdicate in favor of the woman who actually did collude with her own party and the press to steal the nomination from Sanders.

originally posted by: soberbacchus

originally posted by: Xcathdra
a reply to: soberbacchus

Uhm yeah...

Flynn was indicted.

How do you think they got the charge? From a grand jury. Also take note of the dates of the incident.

2016.

Can't help willful ignorance?

See how your doc above says "Count One"

See Manaforts INDICTMENT below:

* A prosecutor does not need a Grand Jury to file a charge and more to the point, wont use a Grand Jury to throw the book at someone if they agree in advance to cooperate. In that scenario, they file a lessor charge and a guilty plea is entered just as everyone agreed too in the cooperation greement.

If he was going to flip and roll then he would've been given immunity! You don't destroy your start witness' credibility by allowing him to admit to LYING!

originally posted by: Sillyolme
a reply to: AndyFromMichigan

Because this says they're going higher up the food chain. They have so much on Flynn including conspiracy to kidnap and they charge him with lying? You guys need to ask what he's giving Robert Mueller to get such a sweet deal. Or rather who he's giving mueller.

i agree... there's no way they'd only charge him with this, now, unless he's providing them with something sweet on someone higher up the chain. that's just how this kind of thing works, lol...

a reply to: face23785

As far as you claiming that the campaign was paying another government for opposition research yes. But who paid for it is a non starter . Robert Mueller is taking the contents very seriously and everything says trump was kompromot and that makes him vulnerable to blackmail. What does Putin expect to keep hushed??? What cost to our country?

a reply to: Tempter

Also worth noting, if this was the basis of a trump/Russia conspiracy, Flynn would be pleading guilty to conspiracy (for lenient sentencing). That's SOP in conspiracy cases. That's how you get a witness to seal a conspiracy charge for you when you lack physical evidence of a conspiracy (he goes on record admitting there was a conspiracy). You don't have him admit he's a liar, you have him admit he conspired.

a reply to: Sillyolme

The FBI doesnt even believe the trump dossier now.

Why would MUeller?

originally posted by: AndyFromMichigan

originally posted by: soberbacchus

What did Flynn offer Mueller in "Proffer" to make Mueller not charge him with a dozen other counts like conspiracy to kidnap a US Citizen for foreign government? Failure to register as a Foreign Agent? Lying on Multiple Security Clearance forms. Undeclared Foreign Income etc. etc.

The FARA act is probably the biggest "real" charge.

I've heard about the plot to kidnap Gullen, but unless there's evidence Flynn seriously intended to act, there was no crime on his part.

The former CIA Director (Woolsey) was in on that meeting where Flynn pitched kidnapping Gullen and cited it as the reason he stopped advising the Trump Campaign.

Mueller interviewed him before the Flynn agreement to cooperate.

Ex-CIA Director Spoke to Mueller About Flynn's Alleged Turkish
thehill.com...

Flynn Junior is caught up in this as people close to Flynn has said it is why he flipped.

I suspect Flynn Junior (Also failed to register FARA) was given the Gullen contract. How far the planning went, who knows, but Flynn singing is clearly to shield his son from serious charges.

Just breaking...Kushner implicated in Flynns testimony today.


🎶higher and higher baby. It's a living thing...🎶

a reply to: Sillyolme

originally posted by: Sillyolme
Just breaking...Kushner implicated in Flynns testimony today.


🎶higher and higher baby. It's a living thing...🎶

ahahahaha fantastic

originally posted by: Tempter

originally posted by: soberbacchus

originally posted by: Xcathdra
a reply to: soberbacchus

Uhm yeah...

Flynn was indicted.

How do you think they got the charge? From a grand jury. Also take note of the dates of the incident.

2016.

Can't help willful ignorance?

See how your doc above says "Count One"

See Manaforts INDICTMENT below:

* A prosecutor does not need a Grand Jury to file a charge and more to the point, wont use a Grand Jury to throw the book at someone if they agree in advance to cooperate. In that scenario, they file a lessor charge and a guilty plea is entered just as everyone agreed too in the cooperation greement.

If he was going to flip and roll then he would've been given immunity! You don't destroy your start witness' credibility by allowing him to admit to LYING!

Jeez people..

Flynn made a public statement this AM saying he agreed to be a cooperating witness with the Special Counsel's Investigation.

a reply to: soberbacchus

I'm not sure how many times you have to be told that conspiracy requires an overt action. Pitching a bad/criminal idea is not a crime. Even agreeing to do it is not a crime.

a reply to: Dfairlite

Also worth noting what Flynn is giving them for this sweetheart deal.

This just in. He gave them Kushner...

originally posted by: soberbacchus
Four members of the Trump Campaign have been indicted or charged.
One was the Chairman of Trump's Campaign and another was his Chief National Security Advisor.
Two are cooperating witnesses to bring down bigger fish.

Keep telling yourself nothing to worry about.

I'm not worried. I'm not Donald Trump or any member of his administration. But facts are facts, and increasingly the facts suggest there is no evidence of collusion.

Flynn's agreement is concerning contact after the election, on matters unrelated to the Trump/Russia narrative. There has been nothing to indicate he even knows anything that relates to The Narrative.

Pappadopolus was a little fish, who by his own admission contacted the Russians on his own initiative. It seems like his suggestion was ignored anyway.

Manfort and Gates are fighting their charges, which again are unrelated The Narrative, and have filed motions to have the evidence thrown out. There's a decent chance they might succeed, because what's been leaked to the public suggests that the raid that seized the records likely exceeded the scope of the warrant.

Mueller hasn't yet charged anyone for anything related to interfering with the election. If there was anything to find, you'd think he'd have more to show by now.

a reply to: Xcathdra

Nice try..

a reply to: Sillyolme

I told you guys that like five pages back. Get with the program.