Flynn charged with one count of making false statement

originally posted by: Sillyolme
Trumps lawyer is still hoping for a prompt and reasonable conclusion to the probe. More whistling past the bone yard.

Just like you're hoping for a new President? Still no indication that's gonna happen. Even you know it in the back of your mind, you're just in denial.

a reply to: conscientiousobserver

Trump promised to drop sanctions on Russia on the condition Russia returns Crimea to Ukraine. Russia did not do so so sanctions were never dropped.

a reply to: AboveBoard

Plea Bargains are always for reasons of weak cases, or minimal info on other related cases.

Big information gets immunity and no charges at all.

a reply to: xuenchen

but if what I read in this thread is right, there is no minimum sentence for what he was charged with, just a maximum..
and then there is more than likely other charges that could be made related to the financials of hiding income.. of which, it wouldn't help if trump gave him a pardon for since they could bring charges on the state level for him.
but, if his son is also implicated in a scheme to hide the income he earned from services rendered to russia or turkey, well, that would be a big incentive for any father to make a deal???

originally posted by: AndyFromMichigan

originally posted by: EchoesInTime

James Comey‏Verified account @Comey Follow Follow @Comey More

“But justice roll down like waters and righteousness like an ever-flowing stream” Amos 5:24

Comey tweets a bible verse after Flynn pleads guilty.

www.foxnews.com...

That's pretty hypocritical, considering how he and Loretta Lynch conspired to obstruct justice on a certain airport tarmac.

Comey "investigated" White Water too. These swamp creatures are gasping for breath just before the flush.

originally posted by: FatSoldier
a reply to: conscientiousobserver

Trump promised to drop sanctions on Russia on the condition Russia returns Crimea to Ukraine. Russia did not do so so sanctions were never dropped.

[sarcasm]Oh em geeeee! He is such a Russian puppet! #impeach![/sarcasm]

a reply to: dawnstar

Any big bombshell info would get immunity.

a reply to: xuenchen

They never enacted them. That's what happened. He HAD to sign them.. That optics thing again... But that doesn't mean he is applying them. How do you like it Vlad?? Should I bend over further or is this angle good for you?

originally posted by: pavil

originally posted by: introvert
a reply to: ketsuko

So right now, we have nothing that really says anything of the magnitude that left wants to imagine.

What are they imagining?

Huh?


You don't see all the posts here?
it's almost like some think Hillary will be installed as President.

Hell, somebody upthread was imagining a scenario where Obama becomes president while a new election is called. Totally 100% impossible, but clearly there are more than a few people who are running purely on what they wish would happen, with no regard to facts or common sense. (For example, let's say Trump did contact the Russians about their response to the sanctions. Do you seriously have a problem with this, or is it just a knee-jerk "Trump!!!!!" reaction?)

a reply to: xuenchen

Because you are the chief investigator in charge of making deals? Quit acting like you understand all of these details. Where is your source for that silly assumption?

a reply to: Xcathdra

I would agree that context is key here.

And it would depend upon the context of the reason for making contact with the foreign government.

Somewhat off-topic, Trump's lawyer is a dead baseball player.

a reply to: matafuchs

That's all they needed to get him to squeal.

a reply to: xuenchen

Oh please.

a reply to: mzinga

Case law is the source.

What's going to be grade A entertainment is when all the libs tune in to listen to Flynn "squeal" and hear him tell the story of Obama spying on his political opponents (Flynn). Of course, they'll do their best to plug their ears and yell "lalalalala" at those parts of the testimony, but it'll still be pretty funny.

What I see has happened: they got Flynn to testify that he met with foreign leaders (including Russia) as part of his job, which isn't illegal or unethical, just part of the job. At the request of Jared Kushner who was also doing his job as he should.

The point: Take away the Russian boogeyman and you're left with nothing of substance. This is all just the left performing another round of red scaring.

originally posted by: xuenchen
a reply to: AboveBoard

Plea Bargains are always for reasons of weak cases, or minimal info on other related cases.

Big information gets immunity and no charges at all.

This is something most people don't get. Plea bargains are not a sign of strength. Quite the opposite: it shows the prosecutor is not confident he could secure a conviction, so he makes an offer to plea guilty to a minor offense so he doesn't have to walk away empty-handed. The defendant agrees to it because he's not confidant he can secure an acquittal, so he takes the offer to avoid the more serious charges.

Notice how Paul Manafort didn't get a plea deal. He just got indicted, because they had solid evidence against him on the Ukrainian business.

a reply to: AndyFromMichigan


www.axios.com...

The Trump staffers charged by the Russia probe

Who do you trust? It's hard for Trump to get any loyalty when your staff is of questionable integrity.... This is just the beginning.

a reply to: xuenchen

That isn’t a source.

originally posted by: introvert
Tired of being called-out for talking out of your ass?

No that would be you and another person in this thread.

However thank you for proving my point. It makes my job easier when you willingly walk through the door.