3 dead after school shooting in California, shooter stopped by deputies

a reply to: jacquesdarippa

Obviously you hate the 2nd Amendment.

In other news, water was found to be wet.

originally posted by: projectvxn

originally posted by: jacquesdarippa
a reply to: neo96

Cheap and used, what can I say.

Out of curiosity, how many of the restrictions and legal hurdles did you go through in your "let's be like Japan" graphic to get your gun?

None.

It was a straw purchase.

a reply to: jacquesdarippa

If that's your idea of gun utopia, then move there.

a reply to: ketsuko

All I know is that it's apparent that, at this point, the visual description of the shooter and his name/age are being intentionally withheld from the public. I mean, they have video interviewing his neighbor, so obviously if they wanted to report on the description, they could.

I'm not certain that it's anything truly nefarious, but I could absolutely just be trying to look on the bright side of life at this moment--it's my mental defense when I think about children who were probably scared to death today.

I agree with the Japan Laws.

They are indeed strict, but to the oppsite of USA they don't let every half assed mentally ill person buy a gun and then shoot kids.

If in the USA they would at least force their laws properly and had more controll, less people would die.

I mean, people will always kill people because they are animals, but guns can kill 20-30, while other weapons can hardly kill 3-4.

originally posted by: neo96

originally posted by: projectvxn

originally posted by: jacquesdarippa
a reply to: neo96

Cheap and used, what can I say.

Out of curiosity, how many of the restrictions and legal hurdles did you go through in your "let's be like Japan" graphic to get your gun?

None.

It was a straw purchase.

Not really. A straw purchase is a) a purchase made through an FFL dealer and b) done on behalf of somebody prohibited from purchasing a firearm.

originally posted by: neo96
a reply to: olaru12

It's impossible to take the psychosexual component out of gun ownership; firearms are a definite powerful male sex symbol.

So is a ferrari what's your point ?

In keeping with the "gun" theme....Didn't mean to "trigger" you sir.

a reply to: ZeroFurrbone

while other weapons can hardly kill 3-4.

Yeah OKAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY!.

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originally posted by: olaru12

originally posted by: neo96
a reply to: olaru12

It's impossible to take the psychosexual component out of gun ownership; firearms are a definite powerful male sex symbol.

So is a ferrari what's your point ?

In keeping with the "gun" theme....Didn't mean to "trigger" you sir.

Sorry I don't go off half cocked like anti gunners do.

Next.

a reply to: neo96

And this is taken from the entire world.

Why not show only in the USA?

a reply to: Shamrock6

Close enough.

They bought it from the brother in law circumventing existing laws.

a reply to: SlapMonkey

Oh, I don't think it was necessarily anything more than domestic violence gone wrong either, but someone wondered why no one reported all the gun shots.

If you have a neighbor who went this overboard in domestic violence, guy was probably a real peach of a neighbor to begin with. Now if you add in reluctance to cause trouble with your neighbor and the knee-jerk PC desire to not appear racist, you might have a serious case of the ignore-its.

originally posted by: ZeroFurrbone
I mean, people will always kill people because they are animals, but guns can kill 20-30, while other weapons can hardly kill 3-4.

Not really well-versed in non-firearm weapons training, are you?

Also, my EDC gun only holds 8+1 rounds...how is that that going to kill the minimum 20 that you claim guns can kill?

I know the gun control people will ignore this, but for anyone interested in some perspective, let's look at Japan's homicide rate compared to the US:

US 4.88 per 100,000 people
Japan 0.31 per 100,000 people

Source

Now, let's look a little harder at those numbers. In the US, roughly two-thirds of our murders every year are committed with a gun. Let's remove those. Let's pretend you can magically remove every gun from the country, and every single one of those murderers who typically uses a gun would just decide they no longer want to commit murder and won't just kill their victims with another weapon. In this fantasy land, we're still left with these numbers:

US 1.63 murders per 100,000 people
Japan 0.31 per 100,000 people

Even without guns, the US still has over five times the number of murders Japan does, adjusted for population. That illustrates something gun control advocates don't want to address. Guns are not the problem. We have an inherent crime/violence problem that we are refusing to address because being too hard on criminals is racist and certain people need votes from those criminals.

a reply to: cosmania

This is SENSATIONALIZED news.

This is more dangerous than all the firearms in private ownership in the country.

This is from the Washington Posts' update:

Authorities said at least four people were killed Tuesday morning in Northern California after a gunman shooting at random opened fire at an elementary school and several other locations.

At least two children were shot and injured, one of them at the school, police said. The gunman was then killed by law enforcement officers who responded to the carnage unfolding across what police described as a “very widespread area.”

At least they aren't trying to shoehorn this into a, "school shooting."

But they are trying another attempt at manipulating the weak minded:

The shooting rampage in California comes on the heels of recent mass shootings that erupted at other seemingly safe places across the country. Last week in Texas, a gunman attacked a small church outside San Antonio during Sunday morning services, killing 26 people and injuring 20 others.

A month earlier, a gunman in a high-rise Las Vegas hotel suite opened fire on the crowd at a country-music festival far below, killing 58 and injuring hundreds more in the deadliest mass shooting in modern American history.

There is one key phrase in the above excerpt.

"...seemingly safe places..."

They want you think think that there is no safe place solely because of the possibility of a, "gunman," going on a rampage while at the same time wanting you to think that all of these incidences are related to one another and thus are part of a singular ideal. Like there's some sort of convention that lunatics attend in order to devise the most heinous and gruesome of acts.

This vague discomfort is then fed in all manner of ways and used to get the weak minded to follow along blindly and regurgitate insipid and tired talking points repetitively until all meaning is lost and the words become an incoherent droning.

Such weak minds refuse to educate themselves.

a reply to: FissionSurplus

That's an interesting theory, but i think it's more than coincidence that today the families of the Sandy Hook 'victims' take their case against the arms manufacturers to court. The very same day.

However, unlike Sandy Hook, we may have real actual dead kids here, and in that case it's either your theory or these peeps are being hypnotized/programmed/drugged to do these things. Even that idea scares the crap out of me....

I simply don't beleive that this escalation in senseless violence, such as in Vegas, is any kind of 'trend', it has to be driven by something or somebody.

In Europe we dont carry guns but we do have kitchen knives & pitchforks, if the Schumann theory was right, we would see a spree of (non ISIS related) knife & pitchfork killings around the world.

Just my 2 cents, and i would prefer that this was another false flag with fake victims than a real attack with real ones, god help them.

originally posted by: ketsuko
a reply to: SlapMonkey

Oh, I don't think it was necessarily anything more than domestic violence gone wrong either, but someone wondered why no one reported all the gun shots.

If you have a neighbor who went this overboard in domestic violence, guy was probably a real peach of a neighbor to begin with. Now if you add in reluctance to cause trouble with your neighbor and the knee-jerk PC desire to not appear racist, you might have a serious case of the ignore-its.

Yeah, I can see that, but in my opinion, if that's the case, then the shooter's neighbors are all cowards.

I'd love to see the police reports that should exist if his neighbors really did call the LEOs on him before, because if he had a gun, and is a felon, I don't think that law enforcement's response would be, "Well, just keep the magazines to the legal bare minimum, please."

a reply to: SlapMonkey

I am talking about automated weapons. I mean, if you plan on kiling lot of people, why use a normal gun?

Machine or Submachine gun would work x10 better and kill way more people.

originally posted by: playswithmachines
a reply to: FissionSurplus

That's an interesting theory, but i think it's more than coincidence that today the families of the Sandy Hook 'victims' take their case against the arms manufacturers to court. The very same day.

Statistically it would be a helluva coincidence if there wasn't a shooting on the same day they took their case to court.

a reply to: SlapMonkey

There are reports that he was reported, too. So I'm not entirely sure which actually happened yet. I've seen both in this thread.

"Why did no on report" and "Why was he reported and law enforcement didn't do anything." If he was reported, then there should be no excuse for lack of action. As a felon, he had to on record so the police ought to have had a duty to be in his business about the shooting. That would clearly be illegal, and if they weren't, then they dropped the ball ... much like the Air Force.

So then the question is why they weren't in his business?