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FBI uncovered Russian bribery plot before Obama admin approved nuclear deal with Moscow

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posted on Oct, 19 2017 @ 03:33 PM
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a reply to: ziopower


yet trump hasn't implemented those pesky sanctions. why do you think that is?

putin was laughing his ass off until he realized what a joke trump is with his tweeting nonsense.. now we have Mueller.

it would help putins cause to "pretend" like Hillary would have been worse. is that what they're telling you to push? too bad about those "adoption" emails and Donnie jr...

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posted on Oct, 19 2017 @ 03:33 PM
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a reply to: spiritualzombie

I don't care about defending Russia or any other country that interferes with another's election. That is common knowledge, nothing new. The only significant thing about it would be if Trump actively colluded with them, for which there is no evidence.

Far more interesting to know if Clinton dealt Uranium for cash, putting lives at risk in the process. You realise that Uranium is now being exported out of the US and it's not even clear where it is going... I wonder if Iran got any. I am sure Hillary would not care as she got her millions already.


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posted on Oct, 19 2017 @ 03:35 PM
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DNI may say Russia helped Trump beat Hillary. DNI may be in Russia's pocket, paid to say that. What is DNI's evidence? We do have evidence Putin preferred Hillary.




posted on Oct, 19 2017 @ 03:39 PM
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originally posted by: UKTruth
a reply to: spiritualzombie

I don't care about defending Russia


Then why did you do it? Why did you defend Russia's election meddling by saying the U.S. does it too?


far more interesting to know if Clinton ...


Oh, back to Hillary? Go check out that report... there's a lot of interesting info about the efforts to discredit Hillary...


I am sure Hillary ...


Yeah, like I said, check out the report...
www.dni.gov...

We also assess Putin and the Russian Government aspired to help President-elect Trump’s election chances when possible by discrediting Secretary Clinton and publicly contrasting her unfavorably to him. All three agencies agree with this judgment.



posted on Oct, 19 2017 @ 03:40 PM
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a reply to: spiritualzombie

Have a read...


Grassley wrote in letters last week to federal agencies that he’s not “convinced” by previous “assurances” that there were no unresolved national security concerns, and revealed Thursday that he wants to hear from the FBI informant in the Russia corruption probe. “Witnesses who want to talk to Congress should not be gagged and threatened with prosecution for talking. If that has happened, senior DOJ leadership needs to fix it and release the witness from the gag order,” Grassley said in a statement.

Victoria Toensing, a lawyer for the former FBI informant, told Fox News’ “America’s Newsroom” that her client has “specific information about contributions and bribes to various entities and people in the United States.”

She said she could not go further because her client has not been released from a nondisclosure agreement but suggested the gag order could be lifted soon. Toensing also claimed that her client was “threatened by the Loretta Lynch Justice Department” when he pursued a civil action in which he reportedly sought to disclose some information about the case.

In a letter sent Wednesday to Attorney General Jeff Sessions, Grassley said such an NDA would “appear to improperly prevent the individual from making critical, good faith disclosures to Congress of potential wrongdoing.” He asked for a copy of the NDA by Nov. 1 and requested that, should one exist, “you release him from it and pledge not to engage in any form of retaliation against him for good faith communications with Congress.”

Sessions separately sent a letter to Toensing asking to set up an interview with the former informant. Grassley wrote, “It appears that your client possesses unique information about the Uranium One/Rosatom transaction and how the Justice Department handled the criminal investigation into the Russian criminal conspiracy.”


Sounds like a lot is going to come out about Russia collusion - unfortunately for the anti-Trump crowd, it's going to be about Obama, Holder, Lynch and Hillary



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posted on Oct, 19 2017 @ 03:41 PM
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originally posted by: spiritualzombie


Then why did you do it? Why did you defend Russia's election meddling by saying the U.S. does it too?



I don't think that is a defense. Its just a statement of fact to provide context. Because Lord knows our media is completely FOS.



posted on Oct, 19 2017 @ 03:41 PM
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originally posted by: ziopower
DNI may say Russia helped Trump beat Hillary. DNI may be in Russia's pocket, paid to say that. What is DNI's evidence? We do have evidence Putin preferred Hillary.



Interesting you say that... Because it's not the consensus of the NSA, CIA, and FBI....

We assess Putin, his advisers, and the Russian Government developed a clear preference for President-elect Trump over Secretary Clinton.


Read the report: www.dni.gov...



posted on Oct, 19 2017 @ 03:43 PM
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DNI may be bought off by Russia. Fact is, Trump is hostile to Russia. This is consistent with GOP policy. Democrats are on good terms with Russia.



posted on Oct, 19 2017 @ 03:44 PM
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originally posted by: galigula
a reply to: spiritualzombie

DNI may be bought off by Russia. Fact is, Trump is hostile to Russia. This is consistent with GOP policy. Democrats are on good terms with Russia.


LOL... okay so DNI, FBI, CIA, NSA are all bought off by Russia or DNC? Which is it...

Here's some more info to help you get educated...


The likely financier of the so-called Internet Research Agency of professional trolls located in Saint Petersburg is a close Putin ally with ties to Russian intelligence.

A journalist who is a leading expert on the Internet Research Agency claimed that some social media accounts that appear to be tied to Russia’s professional trolls—because they previously were devoted to supporting Russian actions in Ukraine—started to advocate for President-elect Trump as early as December 2015.

www.dni.gov...

The report is pretty solid. Definitely worth a read.




posted on Oct, 19 2017 @ 03:45 PM
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Grassley also said yesterday that himself and another congressperson had been informed of information that were it shared with the committee, would change a lot of people's minds. He had asked the FBI to share it but they had not.

Make of that what you will.



posted on Oct, 19 2017 @ 03:45 PM
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I don't care about a report. I care about facts. Fact is, Trump is bad for Russia. Fact is, Hillary is good for Russia.



posted on Oct, 19 2017 @ 03:48 PM
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originally posted by: bigfatfurrytexan

originally posted by: spiritualzombie


Then why did you do it? Why did you defend Russia's election meddling by saying the U.S. does it too?



I don't think that is a defense. Its just a statement of fact to provide context. Because Lord knows our media is completely FOS.


No, that was his defense. When cornered with the facts of a report by the FBI, NSA, and CIA that all say Russia interfered with the election, he resorted to "the U.S. does it too" -- which sounds like the kind of defense a spokesperson for Russia would say when faced with such a report.
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posted on Oct, 19 2017 @ 03:58 PM
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originally posted by: galigula
a reply to: spiritualzombie

I don't care about a report. I care about facts. Fact is, Trump is bad for Russia. Fact is, Hillary is good for Russia.


LOL... Nothing to back that up... Meanwhile... the CIA, NSA, FBI, DNI are saying...

Russia used trolls as well as RT as part of its influence efforts to denigrate Secretary Clinton. This effort amplified stories on scandals about Secretary Clinton and the role of WikiLeaks in the election campaign.


also


In August, Kremlin-linked political analysts suggested avenging negative Western report on Putin by airing segments devoted to Secretary Clinton’s alleged health problems.


I remember a lot of those threads on ATS... I wonder if those people knew they were spreading Russian propaganda.
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posted on Oct, 19 2017 @ 04:06 PM
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originally posted by: Jonjonj

originally posted by: spiritualzombie

originally posted by: bigfatfurrytexan

originally posted by: spiritualzombie


Then why did you do it? Why did you defend Russia's election meddling by saying the U.S. does it too?



I don't think that is a defense. Its just a statement of fact to provide context. Because Lord knows our media is completely FOS.


No, that was his defense. When cornered with the facts of a report by the FBI, NSA, and CIA that all say Russia interfered with the election, he resorted to "the U.S. does it too" -- which sounds like the kind of defense a spokesperson for Russia would say when faced with such a report.


Is your surname McCarthy?

Move on to the issue and stop flooding the thread with irrelevant rubbish.




Their stock in FBI investigations are very much relevant. Either the FBI is something you take seriously or it’s all fake news. Which is it?


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posted on Oct, 19 2017 @ 04:14 PM
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Some people live in the past. Others look to the future. The next important election is the Russia presidential election on March 18, 2018. The 2016 American election is over. Stop dwelling on it and move on.



posted on Oct, 19 2017 @ 04:16 PM
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I'm not convinced of their ability to think critically... especially when I hear things like the FBI, NSA, CIA and DNI are all paid off by Russia, and Hillary was Russia's favorite despite all the evidence saying otherwise.

So in other words -- Russia paid off the intelligence agencies to say Russia hacked the election in order to hurt Hillary Clinton's chances, which is who Russia really wanted. ?????

I'm not a professional, but that sounds batsh*t stupid to me.

I'll go with the assessment of the FBI, CIA, NSA, and DNI.


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posted on Oct, 19 2017 @ 04:17 PM
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Who cares about 2016 election? Who cares about Trump? These are boring. The important thing is Syria, where thousands die in war.



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