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FBI uncovered Russian bribery plot before Obama admin approved nuclear deal with Moscow

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posted on Oct, 19 2017 @ 01:34 PM
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a reply to: Grambler

When you and others whine about "Russia, Russia, Russia" you're ignoring the consensus of ALL the U.S. intelligence agencies... and for the last year not one sh*t given for the ongoing investigation that has already turned up so many connection to Russia.

All that's fake news (says the guy being investigated). FBI statements are fake news. FBI investigations are hoaxes, says you guys.

But now you want to start a conversation about FBI findings under Obama... Never go full retard.
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posted on Oct, 19 2017 @ 01:36 PM
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originally posted by: spiritualzombie
a reply to: Grambler

When you and others whine about "Russia, Russia, Russia" you're ignoring the consensus of ALL the U.S. intelligence agencies... and for the last year not one sh*t given for the ongoing investigation that has already turned up so many connection to Russia.

All that's fake news (says the guy being investigated). FBI statements are fake news. FBI investigations are hoaxes, says you guys.

But now you want to start a conversation about FBI findings under Obama... Never go full retard.


Show me the inteligence consensus that trump collided with Russia.

Thanks.



posted on Oct, 19 2017 @ 01:41 PM
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originally posted by: Grambler

originally posted by: spiritualzombie
a reply to: Grambler

When you and others whine about "Russia, Russia, Russia" you're ignoring the consensus of ALL the U.S. intelligence agencies... and for the last year not one sh*t given for the ongoing investigation that has already turned up so many connection to Russia.

All that's fake news (says the guy being investigated). FBI statements are fake news. FBI investigations are hoaxes, says you guys.

But now you want to start a conversation about FBI findings under Obama... Never go full retard.


Show me the inteligence consensus that trump collided with Russia.

Thanks.


It's just quite vicious and underhanded the way they are trying to use Russian influence as a way to hang Trump when they have known about Russian influence (as well as many other countries) for a long time.

That's the disconnect, that's the issue they refuse to address.




posted on Oct, 19 2017 @ 01:43 PM
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originally posted by: Grambler

originally posted by: spiritualzombie
When Trump supporters use memes to completely disaparage the FBI and all U.S. intelligence agencies... spend a year calling FBI investigations and the statements of the Director of the FBI fake news... then start a thread about FBI investigations under Obama....




Hahahahaha!

Who said all fbi investigations were fake?

How about you trump haters that say we have to investigate any possible interactions with russians, but then totally ignore and deflect when it's Hillary.

That's the real laugher.


Don't look at this, look at this!



posted on Oct, 19 2017 @ 01:47 PM
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originally posted by: Grambler

originally posted by: spiritualzombie
a reply to: Grambler

When you and others whine about "Russia, Russia, Russia" you're ignoring the consensus of ALL the U.S. intelligence agencies... and for the last year not one sh*t given for the ongoing investigation that has already turned up so many connection to Russia.

All that's fake news (says the guy being investigated). FBI statements are fake news. FBI investigations are hoaxes, says you guys.

But now you want to start a conversation about FBI findings under Obama... Never go full retard.


Show me the inteligence consensus that trump collided with Russia.

Thanks.


Very careful with how you phrased that aren't you? You're walking on swiss cheese pretending not to see the holes.

The consensus is that Russia played an active role in interfering in the election, in efforts to hurt Hillary Clinton's campaign and help Donald Trump. The consensus is there... And every time we hear you whine "Russia, Russia, Russia" you're ignoring the consensus of all U.S. intelligence agencies.

What is being investigated right now is whether Trump's campaign actually colluded with Russia to do it. And so far, a lot of connections between Trump's campaign and Russia being discovered.

But you ignore ALL of that... and start a thread about FBI investigations under Obama??? You went full retard.



posted on Oct, 19 2017 @ 01:48 PM
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originally posted by: spiritualzombie
Is there a meme for: "Endlessly calls current FBI investigations into Trump fake news.... Starts thread about past FBI investigations under Obama"

Because this is really the THING for Trump supporters. Mountains of consensus from all the intelligence agencies, and they call it all fake news... then one story shows up they like and all of a sudden it's the only thing worth talking about.


Where is this mountain of evidence? Ive been looking the FBI has released nothing that shows collusion. The only statement we have is Comey and well his credibility is in question. At least with this we got to see the document through the freedom of information request. Im more of a show me person lets skip the hype shall we.



posted on Oct, 19 2017 @ 01:59 PM
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a reply to: spiritualzombie




The consensus is that Russia played an active role in interfering in the election, in efforts to hurt Hillary Clinton's campaign and help Donald Trump


You confuse consensus with CNN. I understand, it has a c and two n's...




posted on Oct, 19 2017 @ 02:04 PM
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originally posted by: Jonjonj
a reply to: spiritualzombie




The consensus is that Russia played an active role in interfering in the election, in efforts to hurt Hillary Clinton's campaign and help Donald Trump


You confuse consensus with CNN. I understand, it has a c and two n's...



FBI, CIA, NSA consensus that Russia influenced the 2016 election to hurt Hillary Clinton and help Donald Trump. And now Trump is being investigated for collusion between his campaign and Russia. And so far a lot of previously unknown connections are emerging. But please... anonymous online person, tell me why I should ignore U.S. intelligence agencies for your opinion that CIA, FBI, and NSA are all fake news?



posted on Oct, 19 2017 @ 02:06 PM
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originally posted by: spiritualzombie

originally posted by: Jonjonj
a reply to: spiritualzombie




The consensus is that Russia played an active role in interfering in the election, in efforts to hurt Hillary Clinton's campaign and help Donald Trump


You confuse consensus with CNN. I understand, it has a c and two n's...



FBI, CIA, NSA consensus that Russia influenced the 2016 election to hurt Hillary Clinton and help Donald Trump. And now Trump is being investigated for collusion between his campaign and Russia. And so far a lot of previously unknown connections are emerging. But please... anonymous online person, tell me why I should ignore U.S. intelligence agencies for your opinion that CIA, FBI, and NSA are all fake news?


Hi there, anonymous online person, mind telling us your full name, address and phone number?

No..? You won't, you say? Ok then.
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posted on Oct, 19 2017 @ 02:11 PM
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originally posted by: ReadingOne

originally posted by: spiritualzombie

originally posted by: Jonjonj
a reply to: spiritualzombie




The consensus is that Russia played an active role in interfering in the election, in efforts to hurt Hillary Clinton's campaign and help Donald Trump


You confuse consensus with CNN. I understand, it has a c and two n's...



FBI, CIA, NSA consensus that Russia influenced the 2016 election to hurt Hillary Clinton and help Donald Trump. And now Trump is being investigated for collusion between his campaign and Russia. And so far a lot of previously unknown connections are emerging. But please... anonymous online person, tell me why I should ignore U.S. intelligence agencies for your opinion that CIA, FBI, and NSA are all fake news?


Hi there, anonymous online person, mind telling us your full name, address and phone number?

No..? You won't, you say? Ok then.


That's okay... you don't have to take my word for it.

Go to the source: FBI, CIA, NSA



posted on Oct, 19 2017 @ 02:15 PM
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edit on 19-10-2017 by Jonjonj because: (no reason given)



posted on Oct, 19 2017 @ 02:19 PM
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a reply to: spiritualzombie

FBI CIA NSA source is crowdstrike, paid by DNC



posted on Oct, 19 2017 @ 02:19 PM
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originally posted by: ziopower
a reply to: spiritualzombie

FBI CIA NSA source is crowdstrike, paid by DNC


Lol... I say again... never go full retard. And here is what I mean by that...

If you're referring to Christopher Steele, the former MI6 agent who authored the Trump Dossier; that's not the source of the FBI, CIA, NSA consensus that Russia played an active role in influencing the 2016 election through use of fake news, online trolls to spread fake news, and russian hacking.

The dossier is a key part of the investigation into whether Trump colluded with Russia. But there is no doubt that Russia meddled in the election.
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posted on Oct, 19 2017 @ 02:24 PM
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originally posted by: spiritualzombie

originally posted by: ziopower
a reply to: spiritualzombie

FBI CIA NSA source is crowdstrike, paid by DNC


Lol... I say again... never go full retard.


The subject of OP isn't what you are deflecting to.

I engaged you, my bad.

Sorry Grambler.




posted on Oct, 19 2017 @ 02:26 PM
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originally posted by: introvert

originally posted by: butcherguy
a reply to: Wardaddy454



John Podesta was a member of Hillary's campaign.

Not just a member, the Chairman.


And this is another example of how some of you cannot understand the nuances that make a huge difference.

Look at the link wardaddy provided. Can you read the names of the 2 people that were lobbying on behalf of the Podesta Group?

Is John Podesta's name on the list?

No, it's not.

Therefore the comparison is invalid.


John Podesta hasn't been with the company officially in some years, yet he's done work and set up meetings for the company. I wouldn't expect him to put his name on a document pertaining to Russia, especially if "Russian collusion" was plan b for an election loss.




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posted on Oct, 19 2017 @ 02:31 PM
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originally posted by: Gryphon66
a reply to: Wardaddy454

Podesta was paid by Russians in 2016; Trump has done "a lot of business" with the Russians and indeed was trying to build a unit in Moscow in 2016.

What's the point? Do you have evidence of the Clinton Campaign colluding with Russians to affect the Election?

Uranium One is a non-issue based on the evidence.


One has ties to a lobbyist firm and the other owned a company that did real estate.

There's evidence Hillary and Debbie affected the outcome of the Dem primary, so why not the election? Either way, I'm more inclined to believe Hillary promised many things to the Russians for some of that sweet sweet oligarch money.

Uranium One is not over yet.



posted on Oct, 19 2017 @ 02:33 PM
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a reply to: spiritualzombie

Christopher Steele is a former intelligence officer. As a private citizen, he can make up whatever story he likes.



posted on Oct, 19 2017 @ 02:33 PM
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a reply to: Wardaddy454

I wonder how they got Michael Flynn to lie about his contacts with Russia and how they got Trump Jr involved to meet a Russian lawyer for dirt on Hillary, and how did they get Trump to openly call on Russia to hack his opponent, and how did they get Jeff Sessions to meet with and lie about meeting Russians.

Such a vast conspiracy to take down Donald Trump and they even got Trump to participate in it.

Or maybe the FBI, CIA, and NSA are right, and Russia had a role in the election, and maybe all these changing stories from the Trump campaign regarding their interaction with Russians is worthy of investigation.

When the guy being investigated calls the FBI, NSA, CIA fake news -- not sure how much water that holds from a guy being investigated... who's already once paid 25 million for fraud. Not sure I believe the fraud guy.



posted on Oct, 19 2017 @ 02:33 PM
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originally posted by: spiritualzombie

originally posted by: ReadingOne

originally posted by: spiritualzombie

originally posted by: Jonjonj
a reply to: spiritualzombie




The consensus is that Russia played an active role in interfering in the election, in efforts to hurt Hillary Clinton's campaign and help Donald Trump


You confuse consensus with CNN. I understand, it has a c and two n's...



FBI, CIA, NSA consensus that Russia influenced the 2016 election to hurt Hillary Clinton and help Donald Trump. And now Trump is being investigated for collusion between his campaign and Russia. And so far a lot of previously unknown connections are emerging. But please... anonymous online person, tell me why I should ignore U.S. intelligence agencies for your opinion that CIA, FBI, and NSA are all fake news?


Hi there, anonymous online person, mind telling us your full name, address and phone number?

No..? You won't, you say? Ok then.


That's okay... you don't have to take my word for it.

Go to the source: FBI, CIA, NSA


See, this is how things work: YOU make claims, YOU back them up, anonymous online person who berates other people for being anonymous online.

But hey, I am 100 % sure you can provide a long list of direct links to all the rock solid evidence and proof these deep state agencies have that bad, bad Russia was hurting sweet old granny pant suit, right? Right..?




posted on Oct, 19 2017 @ 02:35 PM
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originally posted by: Wardaddy454

originally posted by: introvert

originally posted by: butcherguy
a reply to: Wardaddy454



John Podesta was a member of Hillary's campaign.

Not just a member, the Chairman.


And this is another example of how some of you cannot understand the nuances that make a huge difference.

Look at the link wardaddy provided. Can you read the names of the 2 people that were lobbying on behalf of the Podesta Group?

Is John Podesta's name on the list?

No, it's not.

Therefore the comparison is invalid.


John Podesta hasn't been with the company officially in some years, yet he's done work and set up meetings for the company. I wouldn't expect him to put his name on a document pertaining to Russia, especially if "Russian collusion" was plan b for an election loss.





Plan B, huh?

Keep resorting to conspiracy. Eventually, one of em will be true.




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