Tom DeLonge Anouncement: October 11th 9:00 AM PST/12:00 PM EST

a reply to: BASSPLYR

Yeah. Well, there seem to be a lot of new members. Who become ex-members quite rapidly.

The religion of UFO,s is failing due to whats been done by experts..Science is what will save it..Does life exist outside our world? Yes it does thanks to NASA and scientific findings with microbiological life..
To build a UFO will cost a LOT more than one Band member and a few scientists can find..The science is there but is the tech matured and small enough and above all....reliable enough.

a reply to: mirageman

*rimshot*

originally posted by: BASSPLYR

Hey im with you on attracting new members to ats. The staff deserve a flood of revenue for their hard work. Ats is still the best conspiracy based website on the internet and id love to see it stay that way.

I second that, all the really good content is here on ATS anyway if you think about it. It's what got me here in the first place.

But Springer's also got a point there about building a media empire. The question is of course whether the guys over at TTS actually manage to build a critical audience and sustain the reach of the initiative in the long run (given the main premise and lack of delivery up to now). The entertainment branch would have to be very successful in order to compensate for the non-delivery.

For believers, of course, the current way of running the TTS show is a real disappointment.

The Empire Strikes Forward

a reply to: Springer

To the extent he pursues his efforts honestly and in good faith, I wish Tom DeLonge the very best. That goodwill is, however, strictly conditional.

UFOlogy and "alternative topics" are dominated by charlatans, hucksters and thieves whose misdeeds work in direct opposition to those of us who desire nothing more nor less than the truth. There is literally no field of inquiry that isn't tainted by their corruption, and the world would be much better off without them.

A project like To The Stars could potentially illuminate truth, but could just as well darken it.

There's certainly nothing wrong with people making an honest living and profiting from their hard work, and I have nothing but respect for those who do. But in light of the colorful history of similar enterprises, I think there is ample justification for skepticism, if not outright cynicism, when confronted by a project of this kind.

I'm concerned about the now well-established pattern of announcements about announcements about delayed announcements that ultimately bear little resemblance to the original announcements. There can, of course, be any number of reasons for such things, but even under the best of circumstances, it's never a good sign.

Like BASSPLYR, I'm also concerned about Mr. DeLonge's self-ascribed role as an intermediary for "those who know", because such claims are by no means unprecedented. Aside from the cited example of Paul Bennewitz, nearly every "big name" in UFOlogy has made precisely the same claim of "inside information", with wildy varying degrees of (generally low) credibility.

Even genuine behind-the-curtain interviews with "government insiders" are notoriously unreliable for a myriad of reasons. Just ask this guy.

Combine all that with a literal laundry list of unsubstantiated claims and nebulous concoctions of truth and fiction, and it becomes increasingly difficult to distinguish this endeavor from the standard fare of the UFO circus with which we are all too familiar.

The Truth Is... Where, Exactly?

Underlying every slow-paced "controlled disclosure" scheme is the conceit that we can't handle the truth. If we are willing to set aside the direct insult incumbent to that assumption, we are left with someone who is telling us they aren't willing to tell us what they want to tell us.

At least, not now, or not for free.

Of course, it's possible to tell a good yarn about all these subjects, make money and not necessarily join the UFO rogues gallery in the process. Franchises like The X-Files, for example, can intrigue, inspire and entertain without presuming to exceed the bounds of fiction.

But when someone is only willing to offer partial truth, for a price, no less, it would be extremely unwise to ignore the pattern of behavior on display.

Not that I'm suggesting deliberate deceit on the part of Tom Delonge, just pointing out that if he is, in fact, not just pushing another brand of the same "product" that has become an unfortunate emblem of the "UFO business", he would be better off not checking so many of the same boxes.

The head scratcher to me is the picking of an intermediary like DeLonge who is even now being thwarted upfront with delayed reveals. It is wise to wait and see since there is no precedent for anyone revealing what our govt. may or may not know about the UFO phenomenon, unless the misidentifications are of their craft. Richard Doty is a great example of the govt. feeding disinformation to the public on the subject of UFO's, and with that in mind it's fair to say the people here view another rep for the govt. proposing a big reveal as suspicious.

And with no word from DeLonge even today, the suspicion grows larger and credibility lowers, even if something were to come along in the future. DeLonge is sprouting wings in an entertainment category that is viewed as science fiction. Unless he is doing documentaries with solid evidence that can be independently verified, it will still stay as science fiction. I can't rightly say what to make of this whole promise by DeLonge and exactly what is driving this entertainment/science company he is teasing. None of it makes sense so far. I'm open to others take on this, but I'm thoroughly confused and really don't know what to make of what he is REALLY promising.

I wish Springer would invite him for an AMA here.

Uh oh....it sounds like the band may be getting back together

tonedeaf.com.au...

a reply to: vlawde

You say that like it's a bad thing.

If they should decide to put out a new album (and it doesn't suck), I say "rock on!"

I was just thinking out loud, "what if this is his big announcement"?

a reply to: vlawde

Then he wouldn't need to string anyone along.

I watched him talk to Joe Rogan for about 40 minutes recently.
It's kinda hard to focus when so much info is discussed. Just watch the last 11 minutes...

Such big promises! I hope this is real, but until I can wrap my head around why DeLomge is doing this I'm clueless.

Most bizarre Tom DeLonge Facebook visitor post

Haha "The smartest scientist on earth"!

originally posted by: thepixelpusher
Such big promises! I hope this is real, but until I can wrap my head around why DeLomge is doing this I'm clueless.

Most bizarre Tom DeLonge Facebook visitor post

Ohhhhh.......kay... ..drugs are bad mmmkay.

originally posted by: thepixelpusher


I wish Springer would invite him for an AMA here.

You know that he DID do an AMA here, right? About a year ago maybe. It was abysmal. By "it" I mean "he." I believe he even posted a picture of a UFO from a movie and claimed it was a real UFO.

a reply to: KansasGirl

Post a link. I searched here and couldn't find anything.

a reply to: thepixelpusher

found it.

www.abovetopsecret.com...

a reply to: Springer

Mark can you post a link to Tom DeLonge's AMA?

a reply to: thepixelpusher

here are his posts
TD AMA replies

a reply to: interupt42

Thanks. One post stands out. He says:

The docuseries will have a lot more information, and we will be talking about many other things. It's not the time or the place to get into these things here. Religion, Nuclear War, submarines, Greek Mythology....

Sounds like maybe ToTheStars will feature documentaries based upon official information.