About the Vegas Killer... newest info

originally posted by: IAMTAT
Sheriff also said Campos prevented a maintenance worker from getting in harm's way.

First we've heard of this maintenance worker. Another person added to mix....a week after?
This story gets stranger with every telling. If we were suspects changing our story this often what do you think would happen to us?

originally posted by: roadgravel

originally posted by: xuenchen

originally posted by: roadgravel
The story became he was investigating a door open situation. I haven't seen what door it was.

The only doors with "open" alarms are the fire escape stairway doors.

The rooms have electronic locks. I would imagine they can track open/close on them.

But, if it was a stairwell, it might be a reason to send someone to check it out.

That's a logical assumption.

Because the only doors that are monitored in real time are the fire escape doors.

originally posted by: IAMTAT

originally posted by: xuenchen

originally posted by: roadgravel
The story became he was investigating a door open situation. I haven't seen what door it was.

The only doors with "open" alarms are the fire escape stairway doors.

Are there break/impact alarms on the windows?

No, not in the rooms.

a reply to: xuenchen

Is the phantom security guard somehow cover for another security guard that was killed by police?

If so, I haven't figured out how this would help police/FBI yet...

But casinos might go along because... well... MGM wouldn't want their guests to think they can't trust their security guards...

originally posted by: xuenchen

originally posted by: roadgravel

originally posted by: xuenchen

originally posted by: roadgravel
The story became he was investigating a door open situation. I haven't seen what door it was.

The only doors with "open" alarms are the fire escape stairway doors.

The rooms have electronic locks. I would imagine they can track open/close on them.

But, if it was a stairwell, it might be a reason to send someone to check it out.

That's a logical assumption.

Because the only doors that are monitored in real time are the fire escape doors.

Assumption...

Electronic locks can be monitored. I looked into those for MB but couldn't find a lot about system behind the particular locks.

Facts are what will get us some where.

a reply to: judydawg

One more thing if someone​ left and didn't close their door all the way it will show up that is an open door alert, we have been told the door was ajar for whatever reason maybe the dead was was killed early than we think...

originally posted by: diggindirt

originally posted by: IAMTAT
Sheriff also said Campos prevented a maintenance worker from getting in harm's way.

First we've heard of this maintenance worker. Another person added to mix....a week after?
This story gets stranger with every telling. If we were suspects changing our story this often what do you think would happen to us?

Maybe this guy Campos is really Jesus...he's such a hero and saint.

a reply to: judydawg

I haven't seen anything about what door was open. If that was ever made clear I had hoped someone know the source.

I have only heard "a door" from the investigation.

a reply to: judydawg

Possible...and it would cause absolutely everything to have to be questioned. And there could be sooooo many weak spots to expose in reported *facts."

So, I think it's possible...but unlikely. *Real* culprits would have to be incredibly sloppy,

Still possible though and worth considering.

originally posted by: MotherMayEye
a reply to: Boadicea

Ah, so Campos has to be THE one and only security guard witnessed being "chased," ""killed," and "shot in the leg."

His presence needs to explain it all with regard to the security guards that witnesses saw seeming to have been involved.

Pretty much my thoughts. They can confiscate phones and threaten jobs... and I'm pretty sure we're going to hear about non-disclosure forms having to be signed before being released by casino security soon... but folks know what they saw, and will talk among themselves and their family and friends. No one person will know enough to break anything wide open, but enough people know something that they have to provide plausible misunderstood witness accounts.

That is a good explanation for the evolution in the story. Most people would stop there and not question further.

Whatever happened during the time between the last shots fired and when the door was stormed... those are the most vital minutes for the police actions.

originally posted by: xuenchen

originally posted by: IAMTAT

originally posted by: xuenchen

originally posted by: roadgravel
The story became he was investigating a door open situation. I haven't seen what door it was.

The only doors with "open" alarms are the fire escape stairway doors.

Are there break/impact alarms on the windows?

No, not in the rooms.

Windows; some of the videos that start before the shooting, have what sounds like three single shots. At first it sounded like sniper fire but could these be shots that broke open the windows?

If the windows were reinforced, maybe it took these shot to break them.

In regards to Campos being shot before shooting began, I found this from CNN today updated 1:19 PM ET. It also has speaks of the drilling:
"By that time, Paddock had shot through the door at Jesus Campos, a Mandalay Bay security officer who had gone to respond to an alarm, striking him in the leg. Police said that Paddock stopped firing on the crowd after Campos approached his door.
'Hurry but be quiet'
The four-man team found the stairwell door to Paddock's hallway barricaded.
"He had screwed shut the door with a piece of metal and some screws in the stairwell going out to the hallway right by his door," Bitsko recalled.
The SWAT officer used a pry bar to pop the door open, Newton said.
Down the hall, the door to Paddock's room was riddled with bullet holes.
"It looked like Swiss cheese," Newton said.
The SWAT team member quietly set explosives to blow open the door, hoping not to arouse the shooter's suspicions, said Newton."

www.cnn.com...

a reply to: Boadicea

They were securing the 32nd fl, whatever that means. I thought they knew what room the killer was in.

originally posted by: Boadicea

Whatever happened during the time between the last shots fired and when the door was stormed... those are the most vital minutes for the police actions.

Yes.

Something made police/SWAT have to spend an ungodly amount of time in the hallway/stairwell before *BREACHING, BREACHING ,MF BREEEEEECHING* the door to Paddock's room.

So much time that they really cannot account for it.

Lombardo says he was trained (and passed on his training) to just storm in and stop a shooter, no matter the danger. But there they sat...waiting, for some reason, for an hour.

That hour is critical to exposing the lies.

a reply to: Willtell

Check out these two articles and compare it to the New York Times article you posted earlier --

Aussie eyewitness: Multiple gunmen in Las Vegas massacre

Las Vegas shooting: Queensland eyewitness to Mandalay attack

I'd love to hear your thoughts after reading them...

a reply to: MotherMayEye

The "time delay" problem is because the K9 Unit dogs had to be fed.

Or maybe something else.

a reply to: Boadicea


Thanks, Ill check em out

originally posted by: xuenchen
a reply to: MotherMayEye

The "time delay" problem is because the K9 Unit dogs had to be fed.

Or maybe something else.

They were training the dogs at that time of night and they were not far away- LOL:

"Detective Matthew Donaldson was doing paperwork when radio calls went out reporting an active shooter. He jumped in a car and drove 9 miles to the Mandalay Bay Hotel and Casino, he said in the "60 Minutes" interview.
Donaldson ran the last few blocks to the hotel, he said, but he ditched the cowboy boots he was wearing in the casino because they hurt his feet.
"I was faster barefoot and I was going to be more effective barefoot," he said.
Not far away, K-9 officers Dave Newton and Sgt. Joshua Bitsko were training dogs when they heard the radio call."

www.cnn.com...

So I see on another thread that it is said the security guard was unarmed. Fact?

If so, he could not shoot himself.

a reply to: Onlyyouknow

There were K-9 officers already at the concert, too.