About the Vegas Killer... newest info

Oh, I agree it is a near impossibility. But, the question is did he know that? Just speculating on why he would even consider buying 1000 rounds of tracers that if used would immediately display his location. Again, a feeble attempt as I stated.

a reply to: Krakatoa

Possible psychological effect

Most tracers have delay to ignite them at range of 100-150 meters from gun as way to prevent enemy from tracing back to gun position

Consult catalog link I provided

a reply to: MotherMayEye

Wondering about the 200 rounds shot into hallway

Number seems wrong - figuring someone meant 20 and extra zero got added on

200 rounds would have meant Campos probably been dead, door would have be turned into toothpicks by 200
rounds

And as someone pointed out unless using belt feed MG would have needed multiple magazine changes

20 rounds or 1 magazine seems more feasible

originally posted by: firerescue

Oh, I agree it is a near impossibility. But, the question is did he know that? Just speculating on why he would even consider buying 1000 rounds of tracers that if used would immediately display his location. Again, a feeble attempt as I stated.

a reply to: Krakatoa

Possible psychological effect

Most tracers have delay to ignite them at range of 100-150 meters from gun as way to prevent enemy from tracing back to gun position

Consult catalog link I provided

I am also aware of that delay as well.

But what I know is irrelevant. A sociopath that plans something like this may not have all the information, and may be suffering form a case of delusion of grandeur as well (he thinks he can do no wrong, he is omnipotent).

originally posted by: firerescue
a reply to: MotherMayEye

Wondering about the 200 rounds shot into hallway

Number seems wrong - figuring someone meant 20 and extra zero got added on

200 rounds would have meant Campos probably been dead, door would have be turned into toothpicks by 200
rounds

And as someone pointed out unless using belt feed MG would have needed multiple magazine changes

20 rounds or 1 magazine seems more feasible

I think you are correct there. As I did see/read one report stating 20 rounds fired into the hall at the security guard. Simple typos would make sense based upon the evidence we have seen of the door.

a reply to: Flyingclaydisk

He probably didn't know it was jet fuel.
Gasoline has more boom potential.

a reply to: Krakatoa

A sociopath

Probably not the correct terminology.

originally posted by: audubon

originally posted by: MotherMayEye
No, I don't think you have to/should assume it's true. I think it has to be proven true because it is evidence for the "prosecution" of the accused, so to speak.

Well, it's from a police officer who got into Paddock's room, so he has a bit of credibility. But I find it odd that a dog-handler is leaking evidence to the media, rather than it coming out in an announcement from the lead investigation officers. So yes, it's a little suspicious. We shall see.

Unless laws have changed since 2011, the New York Times says that BIG BUCKS are paid for credible "scoops" that are exclusive.

Article w/examples: www.nytimes.com...

originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: Krakatoa

A sociopath

Probably not the correct terminology.

I am not a trained psychologist, but the seeming lack of empathy toward mass killing of humans sure does lean in that direction. Without any public autopsy yet, even you don't know. SO, I could be correct too....right?

a reply to: Krakatoa

Not a pyschologist either, but I would tend toward psychopathy.

a reply to: Phage

That, or he didn't understand the differences between kerosene vs. gasoline. He was probably thinking AV-GAS (like you say) which is highly flammable, more flammable than even premium auto gasoline, and by a fair margin too.

The good news (if any) is that airports don't keep massive quantities of AV-GAS on hand anymore. And what they do keep is usually kept underground anyway. Piston driven engines are pretty limited to singles and twins anymore.

a reply to: Flyingclaydisk

Target of opportunity. "Oh, look. Big tanks."
Fire a few rounds and see if anything happens.

a reply to: Phage

Pretty much; that would be my guess as well.

a reply to: Phage

Probably not the correct terminology either. I am also leaning toward undiagnosed brain tumor.
I guess we will find out (hopefully) someday.

a reply to: Phage

Jet A kerosene has flash points of between 100-150 F (40-65 C)

Flash point is temperature at which is sufficient vapors to flash, but not ignite when exposed to flame

JP 4 was earlier fuel which had mix of lighter hydrocarbon fractions in gasoline range - flash point was from
-10 F to 30 F (-23 to -1 C) JP4 had lower flash point do to tendency of early jet engines to flame out at high altitudes

originally posted by: Krakatoa

originally posted by: firerescue
a reply to: MotherMayEye

Wondering about the 200 rounds shot into hallway

Number seems wrong - figuring someone meant 20 and extra zero got added on

200 rounds would have meant Campos probably been dead, door would have be turned into toothpicks by 200
rounds

And as someone pointed out unless using belt feed MG would have needed multiple magazine changes

20 rounds or 1 magazine seems more feasible

I think you are correct there. As I did see/read one report stating 20 rounds fired into the hall at the security guard. Simple typos would make sense based upon the evidence we have seen of the door.

Please provide a link.

I have read 200 in many places and have not seen it corrected. That figure came from Lombardo, it wasn't a typo:

He faced well over 200 rounds, said Sheriff Joseph Lombardo of the Las Vegas Metropolitan Police on Wednesday. "It's amazing that that security guard didn't sustain additional injury."

Link

originally posted by: MotherMayEye

originally posted by: Krakatoa

originally posted by: firerescue
a reply to: MotherMayEye

Wondering about the 200 rounds shot into hallway

Number seems wrong - figuring someone meant 20 and extra zero got added on

200 rounds would have meant Campos probably been dead, door would have be turned into toothpicks by 200
rounds

And as someone pointed out unless using belt feed MG would have needed multiple magazine changes

20 rounds or 1 magazine seems more feasible

I think you are correct there. As I did see/read one report stating 20 rounds fired into the hall at the security guard. Simple typos would make sense based upon the evidence we have seen of the door.

Please provide a link.

I have read 200 in many places and have not seen it corrected. That figure came from Lombardo, it wasn't a typo:

He faced well over 200 rounds, said Sheriff Joseph Lombardo of the Las Vegas Metropolitan Police on Wednesday. "It's amazing that that security guard didn't sustain additional injury."

Link

Unfortunately I have read so many these past few days, I don't have that link (I wish I did I would post it). It was only in one story, and I remember thinking, Hmmm that's odd, must be a typo. So, as I said, I remember reading it somewhere...so take it for what that is worth I guess.

That's life.

originally posted by: Krakatoa

originally posted by: MotherMayEye

originally posted by: Krakatoa

originally posted by: firerescue
a reply to: MotherMayEye

Wondering about the 200 rounds shot into hallway

Number seems wrong - figuring someone meant 20 and extra zero got added on

200 rounds would have meant Campos probably been dead, door would have be turned into toothpicks by 200
rounds

And as someone pointed out unless using belt feed MG would have needed multiple magazine changes

20 rounds or 1 magazine seems more feasible

I think you are correct there. As I did see/read one report stating 20 rounds fired into the hall at the security guard. Simple typos would make sense based upon the evidence we have seen of the door.

Please provide a link.

I have read 200 in many places and have not seen it corrected. That figure came from Lombardo, it wasn't a typo:

He faced well over 200 rounds, said Sheriff Joseph Lombardo of the Las Vegas Metropolitan Police on Wednesday. "It's amazing that that security guard didn't sustain additional injury."

Link

Unfortunately I have read so many these past few days, I don't have that link (I wish I did I would post it). It was only in one story, and I remember thinking, Hmmm that's odd, must be a typo. So, as I said, I remember reading it somewhere...so take it for what that is worth I guess.

That's life.

No. That sounds more like lies than life.

The 200 figure has been in MANY articles. You said that you read it was actually only 20 rounds, somewhere. THAT is the link I am asking for. I can find many that repeat the 200 figure.

I'd like to see the one in which you read only 20 shots were fired (but Sheriff Lombardo said he was surprised the security guard didn't sustain additional injuries).

a reply to: MotherMayEye

It was not an intentional lie. I admitted that I had no link, deal with it. But, if you look at the actual evidence, the door, there are less than 20 holes in it. Which number sounds more plausible, 20 or 200?

Sheesh.

a reply to: MotherMayEye

Most likely mistake along the line - someone may have sent Lombardo release with wrong figure or someone
told it to Lombardo and got it wrong or heard it wrong

Ever play TELEPHONE ...?? In passing information verbally from one person to other things often get garbled

a reply to: Krakatoa

The Sheriff said more than 200.

Are you saying I should use my own judgment to sort fact from fiction regarding this shooting and disregard what law enforcement has officially stated on the record?