Active Shooter Las Vegas, Mandalay Bay

originally posted by: Xcathdra
a reply to: Boadicea

Interesting...

I am curious who the woman is the police had? unless it was just misreporting by media that they were looking for this lady and assumed when the police located her that it meant "in custody" and not "located in another country".

Very curious. Even after reading the article a couple times now. It's not making sense to me. They were apparently looking for someone with a similar description as the woman overseas. And this woman is described as 4'11'' -- that's a tiny woman. I would think that would be notable in a description, so if they were looking for her specifically it would have been mentioned. I don't know. My mind is reeling.

As for the talk about suing the Casino it still would not make sense to shoot up people at a concert. The only thing I can think of is he might have thought he could do more damage financially to Casinos by this type of crime than shooting up a casino. I would imagine the concert goers stayed at multiple hotels in the area.

No, that doesn't make sense either. I could see if he had targeted the casino he sued, but why target an open concert, where -- as you noted -- the concert goers would be staying at many different places.

Maybe he had some vendetta with the bands playing at the concert?

ETA: And who was the woman telling people they were going to die? Did she match the description given and is that who the police were looking for?

Dunno the hows and the whys of this.
But here's my 2 cents.

This guy was a pathetic a$$hole.

And thoughts go out to the victims families.

This is just a terrible thing to hear about.

This whole ISIS thing - i am not buying it.

ISIS called for attacks in Vegas, so I think they have just assumed their call was answered and now claimed responsibility.

Even if American's were to sacrifice their 2nd Amendment, it would not stop the deaths from gun violence. The death rate would increase in fact. Only law abiding citizens would follow such a law...the criminals would keep their guns and average citizens would be like sitting ducks for criminals. Kind of like it is now in undoubtedly the most gun controlled area of the US...Chicago. Since they implemented gun control there, it has become out of control with gun violence. The same thing with the UK, they are always complaining about how they want their guns back, because the criminals now have no one that can fight back when they bust into someones home to rob or rape them. Usually there is violence that occurs after a break in.

originally posted by: IAMTAT
I'm hearing reports that this guy converted to Islam months ago...and ISIS is claiming responsibility.

Any source on this?

originally posted by: JinMI
a reply to: fleabit

That's my thought too.

Just like the Taliban and Al'Qaeda before them. Anything like this happens in the West , some Muslim extremist group is gonna claim credit. Sometimes they have even fought over their claims.

a reply to: UKTruth

The only one who could deny it is dead.

originally posted by: Simon_Boudreaux

originally posted by: Xcathdra

originally posted by: hutch622
a reply to: JinMI

Question . Would it be easy to get ten guns into a hotel in vegas , and , if spotted why no questions raised .

Yes - put them into a large bag and take them in. Bags are not checked and there are no metal detectors.

Being there was a concert in town it wouldn't be hard to get it all past everyone if it's in cases that look like music equipment. The duel shooting platforms still confused me. Would it be normal for one shooter to do this?

To be honest it depends on weapons and the persons background. There are no balconies for the hotel he was in so he had to shoot the window out. Chances are he had a table or something else close to the window to use as support. It is also possible he used a sniper technique which is to set up the room in a way where you can see and shoot from a point away from the window, concealing muzzle flashes, messing with reports in addition to making it harder for people on the outside to locate you.

those are just guesses though.

a reply to: ausername

AP news:

CAIRO (AP) — The Islamic State group has claimed responsibility for the mass shooting in Las Vegas, saying that the perpetrator was “a soldier” who had converted to Islam months ago, without providing any evidence to support the claim.

The group released two statements on its Aamaq news agency on Monday, hours after the shooting at a country music concert that killed at least 50 people and wounded at least 400.

It did not name the suspected shooter, identified by Las Vegas police as 64-year-old Stephen Paddock, but said he had “executed the operation in response to calls to target countries of the coalition” batting the extremist group in Iraq and Syria.

IS often claims attacks by individuals inspired by its message but with no known links to the group.

This is such rubbish reporting. Putting Paddock's name in a sentence with what an unknown unnamed source said IS NOT NEWS!!!

originally posted by: UKTruth
This whole ISIS thing - i am not buying it.

ISIS called for attacks in Vegas, so I think they have just assumed their call was answered and now claimed responsibility.

That's my feeling too.

As it stands right now, I have seen no evidence whatsoever that makes motive clear.

For everyone asking for source:

ISIS claims responsibility

Edit: It's not a secret, it's being reported everywhere at this point. Google folks.

originally posted by: UKTruth
This whole ISIS thing - i am not buying it.

ISIS called for attacks in Vegas, so I think they have just assumed their call was answered and now claimed responsibility.

Isis , whatever I truly hope their is a Hell . And this (I have no terms to describe ) has a freakin front row seat.

originally posted by: ausername

originally posted by: IAMTAT
I'm hearing reports that this guy converted to Islam months ago...and ISIS is claiming responsibility.

Any source on this?

It's being reported on the news.

originally posted by: UKTruth
This whole ISIS thing - i am not buying it.

ISIS called for attacks in Vegas, so I think they have just assumed their call was answered and now claimed responsibility.

Daesh would claim responsibility for a wet fart.

I wish the first thing folks wouldn't do after a tragedy like this, is try so hard to prove that first, it was the OTHER person's religion / political group / gun owners "responsible" somehow.. and that also that person's actions somehow also shine a light on that political groups normal activity / way of thinking.

I don't care what his political affiliation was.. the guy was unhinged, and his actions don't in any way represent what ANY U.S. political group or any sane gun owner would do. Humans with normal brain functions don't try to kill hundreds of innocents.

nypost.com...

I smell major bullsh!t with this one

originally posted by: IAMTAT
I'm hearing reports that this guy converted to Islam months ago...and ISIS is claiming responsibility.

ISIS would probably claim responsibility every time someone dies of a hart attack if they could.

Like I keep saying way to early to draw conclusions on this guys motivation and if it is terrorism or just some nutter with a gun.

a reply to: dfnj2015

While AP isn't always reliable, that is pretty straightforward. They report ISIS is claiming responsibility but there's no evidence to support their claim. What's the problem, exactly?

originally posted by: JinMI
a reply to: UKTruth

The only one who could deny it is dead.

Indeed.
The thing that makes me not believe it was ISIS related or that he converted to Islam is the lack of any footprint of such a 'conversion'. One would have thought he would start talking about his conversion to others and also show some form of change in perspective online. I guess, as a 64yr old, he may have had no online presence but surely someone in his family would have noticed. I'd imagine his wife will be questioned about this.

a reply to: Bridge_Boy

Thanks for the link.