Active Shooter Las Vegas, Mandalay Bay

originally posted by: AdemirAlagic
He wasn't shooting near the windows they were back where flashes couldn't be seen.

I'd like to see the platforms, have they shown photos of those areas? Too far back and 'he'd' have to have been pretty elevated no?

Billboards around the area are to be installed with "Know something, say something" asking or info about the incident.

We're very confident there was not another shooter in the room.

They want to know if anyone else knew about the incident before he carried it out.

Number one October is the official name on reports.

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originally posted by: dreamingawake
Billboards around the area are to be installed with "Know something, say something" asking or info about the incident.

We're very confident there was not another shooter in the room.

They want to know if anyone else knew about the incident before he carried it out.

Number one October is the official name on reports.

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Makes no sense if they believe he did this on his alone who would help him? Their contradicting themselves.. "we are confident he shot alone", but we believe someone knows something so we're going to put a billboard up..

a reply to: dreamingawake

It's amazing when law enforcement has to resort to billboards for finding Clues about an event of this magnitude.

originally posted by: soberbacchus
A few breaking items in case it hasn't been posted yet.

1) He EXTENSIVELY planned the attack and scouted multiple locations. Even reserved rooms at the Blackstone Hotel in Chicago during Lollapalooza! An event that Malia Obama attended. Likely he did not choose that due to Chicago having several trees and the Blackstone having insufficient lines of site to the event.

He also scouted Boston and Fenway Park, but again, the hotels did not afford good scope of the park.

Vegas? Open view of event and no trees.

This also dispels the notion that it was political. If Country is Conservative then Lollapalooza is Liberal and besides his family said he was actually a country fan. Psychopath. His aim was body count and politics did not matter.

2) A poster on this thread actually scooped the MSM! Whoever said they had that girlfriend or friend that got the pic of him in front of a Taco Bell before the attack and he was with a woman who was not his girlfriend? Investigators are now saying he was seen with a woman in the days leading up to the event (not his girlfriend) AND they are saying he had planned an elaborate escape which would have required assistance form another person. Wonder how that escape plan fell through? Or if the woman left him hanging? Either way, that woman has not spoken to authorities yet and they are searching for her. That poster on this thread had that nailed.

That was me I posted that.

My close coworkers friend sent a picture to the FBI she took that day of her taking a selfie in front of the Las Vegas Blvd. Taco Bell "Cantina." The shooter apparently "stopped posed and gave a weird look/grimace" at the camera then continued walking down the street. That's why the girl taking the selfie remembered him. She told the FBI he was with a woman.

I asked for the picture but my co-worker said she felt weird asking her for the pic, especially since she took it down on all social media due to what I am guessing is the FBI's request.

(the FBI probably doesnt want pics of the woman out there bc they dont want her to realize she is "caught" and run)

originally posted by: carewemust
a reply to: dreamingawake

It's amazing when law enforcement has to resort to billboards for finding Clues about an event of this magnitude.

It's clear they don't know why or how he supposedly did this. He lived a normal life for most part yo end up doing this it's not normal

originally posted by: carewemust
a reply to: dreamingawake

It's amazing when law enforcement has to resort to billboards for finding Clues about an event of this magnitude.

My guess is it's deflection.

They likely know the motive and the others involved but won't tell us as the real reason would look quite bad.

originally posted by: CajunMetal

originally posted by: soberbacchus
a reply to: Indrasweb

If there was a second shooter, there would be footage of simultaneous fire? No?

I entertain the possibility of accomplice, but something went wrong with the exit plan.

I don't think there was multiple shooters or that would have been easy to spot in reviewing the tonnage of footage the FBI must have by now.

There's not footage of any shots coming from the 32nd floor. There WAS two windows broken out with rifles at each, one in a room behind doors locked from inside that room that LEO had to breach. Doesn't make sense if he was going from window to window.
But like I said no footage of shots regardless, and LEO/FBI are saying the cameras that were so meticulously set up (and wired to that locked room btw) weren't even on? Yeah right.

Edit: there is questionable audio from footage posted with 'talking' fire that doesnt match up w echo.

Vegas hotels record everything. That's what stinks about this. I guarantee on the recordings there's multiple other people who went in and out of the rooms in question leading up to the attack and possibly during, and what they found on the recordings is quite inconvenient.

originally posted by: Lucidparadox

originally posted by: soberbacchus
A few breaking items in case it hasn't been posted yet.

1) He EXTENSIVELY planned the attack and scouted multiple locations. Even reserved rooms at the Blackstone Hotel in Chicago during Lollapalooza! An event that Malia Obama attended. Likely he did not choose that due to Chicago having several trees and the Blackstone having insufficient lines of site to the event.

He also scouted Boston and Fenway Park, but again, the hotels did not afford good scope of the park.

Vegas? Open view of event and no trees.

This also dispels the notion that it was political. If Country is Conservative then Lollapalooza is Liberal and besides his family said he was actually a country fan. Psychopath. His aim was body count and politics did not matter.

2) A poster on this thread actually scooped the MSM! Whoever said they had that girlfriend or friend that got the pic of him in front of a Taco Bell before the attack and he was with a woman who was not his girlfriend? Investigators are now saying he was seen with a woman in the days leading up to the event (not his girlfriend) AND they are saying he had planned an elaborate escape which would have required assistance form another person. Wonder how that escape plan fell through? Or if the woman left him hanging? Either way, that woman has not spoken to authorities yet and they are searching for her. That poster on this thread had that nailed.

That was me I posted that.

My close cowerkers friend sent a picture to the FBI she took that day of her taking a selfie in front of the Las Vegas Blvd. Taco Bell "Cantina." The shooter apparently "stopped posed and gave a weird look/grimace" at the camera then continued walking down the street. Thats why the girl taking the selfie remembered him. She told the FBI he was with a woman.

I asked for the picture but my co-worker said she felt weird asking her for the pic, especially since she took it down on all social media due to what I am guessing is the FBI's request.

(the FBI probably doesnt want pics of the woman out there bc they dont want her to realize she is "caught" and run)

Why would someone who was going to commit a meticulous crime photobomb someone in town in such a memorable way implicating their accomplice?

FBI took all the JFK footage the same way...just sayin.

originally posted by: MysticPearl

originally posted by: CajunMetal

originally posted by: soberbacchus
a reply to: Indrasweb

If there was a second shooter, there would be footage of simultaneous fire? No?

I entertain the possibility of accomplice, but something went wrong with the exit plan.

I don't think there was multiple shooters or that would have been easy to spot in reviewing the tonnage of footage the FBI must have by now.

There's not footage of any shots coming from the 32nd floor. There WAS two windows broken out with rifles at each, one in a room behind doors locked from inside that room that LEO had to breach. Doesn't make sense if he was going from window to window.
But like I said no footage of shots regardless, and LEO/FBI are saying the cameras that were so meticulously set up (and wired to that locked room btw) weren't even on? Yeah right.

Edit: there is questionable audio from footage posted with 'talking' fire that doesnt match up w echo.

Vegas hotels record everything. That's what stinks about this. I guarantee on the recordings there's multiple other people who went in and out of the rooms in question leading up to the attack and possibly during, and what they found on the recordings is quite inconvenient.

We have covered this already, there aren't any cameras on the hotel room floors of major casino hotels in Las Vegas. They are only on the casino floor and select few other places.

originally posted by: MysticPearl

originally posted by: carewemust
a reply to: dreamingawake

It's amazing when law enforcement has to resort to billboards for finding Clues about an event of this magnitude.

My guess is it's deflection.

They likely know the motive and the others involved but won't tell us as the real reason would look quite bad.

Law enforcement is a proud Bunch. It's hard for me to imagine them allowing history to show that they couldn't come close to solving the biggest mass shooting in American history.

a reply to: Lucidparadox

I don't want anyone to get in trouble or impede anything with the investigation, but doubt we'll hear anything from this whether it was him or not at this point:

Wonder if maybe his side of the pic can be shown-hers blurred out and or at least a vague description of her?

After all social media already figured out names before the officials released it.

It's clear there wasn't 200 rounds in that door.. they're trying to make this security guard out to be this hero.

Realized my original post was rather off-topic.

a reply to: riiver

that usually means it was deleted.

a reply to: AdemirAlagic

The note found in his hotel room is being investigated. It contains a 'bunch of numbers'.

Hmm i wonder what a bunch of numbers would represent. Off-shore bank accounts maybe, or a code/cypher that has to be decoded. Has to mean something.

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originally posted by: CajunMetal

originally posted by: AdemirAlagic
He wasn't shooting near the windows they were back where flashes couldn't be seen.

I'd like to see the platforms, have they shown photos of those areas? Too far back and 'he'd' have to have been pretty elevated no?

They haven't released any photos of the shooting nest or nests, no.

I'm surprised by the number of folks in this thread who are so sure there was only one shooter.

I don't know either way- none of us do- but I think there is plenty of video out there to suggest there were at LEAST two shooters. And yes, even taking into account the echo factor. Not to mention the two broken windows business. Taking into account all of the info we do know (which admittedly isn't much, and I think it's very wise to even doubt the truth of what authorities tell us), it makes more sense that Paddock wasn't the only shooter. At the very least, listen to videos where there are what sound like two weapons overlapping, with different rates of fire.

And I think the authorities DO know what happened, at this point...or they at least have a big part of the picture. Do we really think, with the resources they have at their disposal, that they haven't got this one figured out? Come on people.

What we need to do is question what they are telling us.

a reply to: EchoesInTime

Good find, thanks. Wonder if it was the same note in the photo shared and if there's a clear version or image of it somewhere. Offshore accounts, maybe, even strategic numbers.

a reply to: AdemirAlagic

I have no idea if this is true but at the start of this mess I heard the security guard was shot by a LEO...no I don't have a source.

originally posted by: TruD4rkness

originally posted by: MysticPearl

originally posted by: CajunMetal

originally posted by: soberbacchus
a reply to: Indrasweb

If there was a second shooter, there would be footage of simultaneous fire? No?

I entertain the possibility of accomplice, but something went wrong with the exit plan.

I don't think there was multiple shooters or that would have been easy to spot in reviewing the tonnage of footage the FBI must have by now.

There's not footage of any shots coming from the 32nd floor. There WAS two windows broken out with rifles at each, one in a room behind doors locked from inside that room that LEO had to breach. Doesn't make sense if he was going from window to window.
But like I said no footage of shots regardless, and LEO/FBI are saying the cameras that were so meticulously set up (and wired to that locked room btw) weren't even on? Yeah right.

Edit: there is questionable audio from footage posted with 'talking' fire that doesnt match up w echo.

Vegas hotels record everything. That's what stinks about this. I guarantee on the recordings there's multiple other people who went in and out of the rooms in question leading up to the attack and possibly during, and what they found on the recordings is quite inconvenient.

We have covered this already, there aren't any cameras on the hotel room floors of major casino hotels in Las Vegas. They are only on the casino floor and select few other places.

.

You know this surprises me I work in the hotel business in Florida and let me tell you everything is on camera...some have been called on their cell phone to ask why are you where you are...the only place that did not have a camera was the rooms... If we wanted to talk we went into a room...it is hard for me to believe Vegas would be ant different. We caught people sleeping in stairwells, workout rooms extra...