Active Shooter Las Vegas, Mandalay Bay

a reply to: TrueBrit

Don't disagree with you there, but I'm searching for 'motive'. The question would be why? One might make an argument to distract against current events, but if this were an organized op its roots would go back to the Obama admin.

I was driving Uber when it happened, and while it was disorienting and chaotic, I know there was a shooter on the ground and at least 1 in the middle of Mandalay and one higher up. But as soon as it happened I knew it was another false flag. That's why Vegas is carrying on like any other day

a reply to: mzinga

You are kidding, right?

Intelligence operations started in the fifties and sixties are still in operation now, ops started in the eighties too. The one which recruited Osama bin Laden to the CIA during the Cold War, is the same one which currently has the IS top brass in its pocket. And yet the best we can come up with is "Oh... must be the guy before this one's fault!".

originally posted by: ColinForReal
I was driving Uber when it happened, and while it was disorienting and chaotic, I know there was a shooter on the ground and at least 1 in the middle of Mandalay and one higher up. But as soon as it happened I knew it was another false flag. That's why Vegas is carrying on like any other day

How should Vegas be carrying on? What should they be doing?

Mr. Stephen Paddock was ISIS. There is the motive ...Now the questions turn to how we let this guy randomly fly off to the Middle East to get radicalized 6 months ago without flagging him, vetting his communications, and putting a trailer on his butt.

I am sorry, but it is at the point anymore where it needs to come to this for the greater good of society. You make a choice to go over there? You make a choice to be flagged.

originally posted by: diabloman
a reply to: Bluesma

Is the FBI analysing this possibility. A group of terrorists banged into Stephan Paddocks room, did the shooting, killed paddock, put his finger prints on the guns And escaped.
Paddock is just a poor man in the wrong room, he could have been anyone occupying that particular room.
Something is wrong, the number of rounds fired, sound of echos and all. No one is asking any questions, media is just like a brainless dog, eating whatever is fed to it.

Standard police work would uncover that. If a bunch of people barged into the room, did the shooting and split, the forensic evidence would be everywhere.

originally posted by: daveinats
If he had the hall way covered with cameras, then he could have kept shooting. But he stopped. If he was set up to go down in a blaze of 'blue suicide' then why stop. If on the other hand, another person was in the other room, then there had to be a blame guy. I would not be surprised if there are areas of the room with no finger prints...as in someone wearing gloves or wiping their area down after the 'suicide'...

I've been wondering about this too, all along. Why did he stop shooting? He clearly had much more he could have done....all of those magazines stacked up!! Why did he stop? I've just read your post and havent read through the pages following, so I apologise to everyone if this has been addressed already.

It has just been confirmed on CNN's website that the piece of paper contained only numbers, which they are investigating at the moment

It has also been confirmed that he was trying to buy tracer bullets weeks before the shooting, to enable further accuracy, again perhaps he had a specific target in mind and needed that accuracy? Who knows
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Ok this is in no way substantiated.. but I spoke with my mother late last night who also has been. Keeping up on this.

She told me she read or heard on some news site or program that part of his escape plan, the police were referencing, possibly included a parachute.

Basically she said they may have found a parachute in the room.

Makes sense.. jump.out the window to where your car is and drive away.

What's even crazier to think of... since Windows were broken out in 2 rooms .. and the door between them was locked.. maybe there was a second shooter and they jumped?

Hard to.believe though bc someone would be caught that on camera.

a reply to: Lucidparadox

Sounds like a great story. Somehow this 64 year old base jumps from below min base jumping distance without having base jump experience. He then dodges the entire LV metro police department on his way to his car. He then evades the circling helicopters to get to his private plane ...

Hmm ya, sounds legit. Has success written all over it.

A few breaking items in case it hasn't been posted yet.

1) He EXTENSIVELY planned the attack and scouted multiple locations. Even reserved rooms at the Blackstone Hotel in Chicago during Lollapalooza! An event that Malia Obama attended. Likely he did not choose that due to Chicago having several trees and the Blackstone having insufficient lines of site to the event.

He also scouted Boston and Fenway Park, but again, the hotels did not afford good scope of the park.

Vegas? Open view of event and no trees.

This also dispels the notion that it was political. If Country is Conservative then Lollapalooza is Liberal and besides his family said he was actually a country fan. Psychopath. His aim was body count and politics did not matter.

2) A poster on this thread actually scooped the MSM! Whoever said they had that girlfriend or friend that got the pic of him in front of a Taco Bell before the attack and he was with a woman who was not his girlfriend? Investigators are now saying he was seen with a woman in the days leading up to the event (not his girlfriend) AND they are saying he had planned an elaborate escape which would have required assistance form another person. Wonder how that escape plan fell through? Or if the woman left him hanging? Either way, that woman has not spoken to authorities yet and they are searching for her. That poster on this thread had that nailed.

a reply to: Lucidparadox

As anybody who studied WW2 will tell you, a man floating down in a parachute is a relatively easy target.

Let alone they could simply attack him when he lands, the crowds or the police.

He was a Psychopath, not stupid though.

originally posted by: Jubilation T Cornpone
Mr. Stephen Paddock was ISIS. There is the motive ...Now the questions turn to how we let this guy randomly fly off to the Middle East to get radicalized 6 months ago without flagging him, vetting his communications, and putting a trailer on his butt.

ISIS likes credit.

They have claimed false credit before.

Both the shooter and ISIS would want them to have proper credit in order for the attack to have any meaning for their movement.

There has been zero evidence he had any relation to ISIS.

a reply to: Jubilation T Cornpone

ISIS are prevalent in the Philippines, there was no need to travel to the Middle East:

mobile.nytimes.com...

The security guard was Hispanic right? He was seen with another women earlier? What if the woman who warned people at the concert was that woman with the security guard

The broken clock website Before its news has a piece up titled "Paddock’s Accomplice, Scott Edmisten Captured? Google FB Censors! " not sure but thought I would drop it off ...cyas YT has a clip

a reply to: soberbacchus

Which is why the 'Chicago' story was released including Obamas name to put in the heads of people this was not an anti-right attack. The guy was rich and I am sure he traveled. It seems odd they know so much about his travel but nothing about him. There are also conflicting reports how long he was in Vegas but they know he was in Boston. Thank about that a minute.

The security guard is also a weird entry in this story. One guard only, unarmed, went to see what was going on?

originally posted by: KansasGirl

originally posted by: daveinats
If he had the hall way covered with cameras, then he could have kept shooting. But he stopped. If he was set up to go down in a blaze of 'blue suicide' then why stop. If on the other hand, another person was in the other room, then there had to be a blame guy. I would not be surprised if there are areas of the room with no finger prints...as in someone wearing gloves or wiping their area down after the 'suicide'...

I've been wondering about this too, all along. Why did he stop shooting? He clearly had much more he could have done....all of those magazines stacked up!! Why did he stop? I've just read your post and havent read through the pages following, so I apologise to everyone if this has been addressed already.

Because the LEO's were about to breach the door to the room of where the shooter was occupied. Then he figured it was time to off-himself.

200 rounds and only one leg wound? Bull#

originally posted by: matafuchs
a reply to: soberbacchus

Which is why the 'Chicago' story was released including Obamas name to put in the heads of people this was not an anti-right attack.

Right..Cuz the LV PD, Trump administration DOJ/FBI and Trump administration Homeland Security teams and shooters family are working together in a massive conspiracy to hide the fact that the shooter was a raging lefty looking to kill conservatives.

Puhleese...Common sense does really matter