Parents Grill School Board Over Transgender Discussions In Kindergarten

originally posted by: DanDanDat

originally posted by: JohnnyCanuck

originally posted by: interupt42
a reply to: seasonal
That is just insane. A kindergarten kid has no idea about sexuality at that age . It would have been more productive and related for the children to have read a book about little johny becoming batman.

That's what you think.
A friend of my daughters has a 6 year old girl. She doesn't like being treated like a girl, and insists that she be addressed by a boys name (which is not a derivative of her own). Her parents are accommodating her wishes.
I would suggest that this young individual has a better idea as to her gender concerns than you do.

My daughter does that too, her name is Reagan and she likes to use the name Max and act like a boy.

Sure some times she likes to use the name Max and act like a dog too ...

I don't think I will be encouraging her to explore her gender ideanty or her human ideanty and time soon. Instead I'm just going to play with her and think of many new ways to use and develop her imagination.

Lmao good point... My kid liked to get down and bark at the dog too when he was 5 or 6. Guess what? hes 26 now and he is a man not a dog..

originally posted by: MisterSpock
So just for the fun of it, as a great little logic puzzle for some.

**Remember logic, is not emotion, remove emotion before continuing**

If

you subscribe to the logic that a child at 5 is aware enough about their bodies, gender/sex and the ramifications of their choices and changes, and is capable of making a rational, logical decision to changer their g/s.

Then

You also have to allow them to do such things as:
-Cut off body parts - if they don't want their hand, they obviously know whats best and the consequences of removing it. So cut that baby off.
-Get tatoo's or piercings
-eat 10 lbs of butter, every day, for weeks, nutrition requirements are "childs play" compared to gender dynamics.
-If they think they can fly, they probably can. They know their body better than I. Have a safe flight little jimmy.

I'm sure I"m missing some others.

From a logic standpoint, I don't understand the duality of a child being "not equipped" for some decisions while all knowing on others. This really is just the worst when it comes to this new wave of political nonsense. I really don't care though, I'm just observing the self destruction of a species that surprisingly made it this far. Enjoy the next 82 years, they'll be the most entertaining.

Look at you trying to use logic. They should be plenty old enough to drink as well. They know whats best for them.

Monday:

Jimmy - "Mommy, I'm a dinosaur!!!"

Mom - "Jimmy, you're not a dinosaur, you're a human."

Tuesday:

Jimmy - "Mommy, I'm a Bear, ROARRRRR!!!"

Mom - "Jimmy, you're not a Bear, you're a human."

Wednesday:

Jimmy - "Mommy, I'm a Space Ship, ZOOOMMM!!!"

Mom - "Jimmy, you're not a Space Ship, you're a human."

Thursday:

Jimmy - "Mommy, I'm a Girl!!!"

Mom - "Get in the car honey, where going to the doctor and start hormone treatment and get you on a transitional plan."


Obviously, the right thing to do would have been to have dad start riveting aluminum panels and fixing landing gear on little jimmy wedneday evening when he got home from work.

a reply to: Annee

Educate yourself.

Sorry I'm too busy letting kids be kids instead of projecting BULLSNIP on to them.

originally posted by: JohnnyCanuck

originally posted by: interupt42
a reply to: seasonal
That is just insane. A kindergarten kid has no idea about sexuality at that age . It would have been more productive and related for the children to have read a book about little johny becoming batman.

That's what you think.
A friend of my daughters has a 6 year old girl. She doesn't like being treated like a girl, and insists that she be addressed by a boys name (which is not a derivative of her own). Her parents are accommodating her wishes.
I would suggest that this young individual has a better idea as to her gender concerns than you do.

Next week she will be catwomen and the school should provide kitty litter for the class to support her .

If an adult pedophile has a sexual relationship with a 5 or 6 year old should we let the adult go because the child said they were ok with the relationship. No , There is a reason a 5 year old is not considered an adult , are protected by law , and special consideration are taken for them. They don't know any better at certain age and are vulnerable. They aren't fully developed mentally or physically.

5 or 6 year old is way to young to commit a child to such dramatic change in their live when they aren't mentally of physically developed.

So no its not what I think, its what the law and any reasonable adult would think. A 5 or 6 year old is not mentally or physically developed enough to think for themselves or protect themselves at such a young age hence they are not considered an adult or allowed to live by themselves.

The books I am fairly meh on, the kids I helped raise were pretty hummingbird like in their attention span so odds are the kids were tuned out by the mid way point.

But if like someone mentioned this involved boys dressing up like girls and getting a girls name, someone needs fired.

a reply to: Johnnycake
I was like that when I was young.

I hated dresses. All I wanted to wear was blue jeans, T shirts, and tennis shoes. I hated girly things. I played sports and I liked hanging out with the guys. I really didn't like most girls, and still have more male friends than female, even today. I had a nickname that most would have thought to be male, and I hated being called by my legal name.

I was your number one Tom boy.

I am still a Tom boy after all these years, but I was not and am not transgender. I remember the first time I had a real crush on a boy. I was 12 years old. Before that, boys were my friends and my competitors. I never thought about sexuality until I was around 12, almost 13, and I come from a huge family with 5 brothers and 4 sisters. I grew up in the country, so I knew were babies came from, and how they were made.

I thank God that my parents didn't make a bit deal out of it and I was allowed to grow up just being me. Some of my Tom boy ways got dropped along the way, some I still have. None of which identified my sexuality.

I think we need to stop projecting what we "think" onto children and just let them be.

a reply to: seasonal

I assume this is a public school?

You get what you pay for. Honestly, if you can't afford private or parochial school, you should reconsider having any kids at all.

a reply to: TonyS

The video said it was a charter academy.

Really the same thing could happen in either school and is a sad state of affairs.

a reply to: MisterSpock

You're right.

We better book our flights to the West Coast and find a deep sea submersible that can take him out to locate both the rift with the kaiju and that damaged Jaeger so that he can get busy repairing it.

Otherwise, he'll come home convinced he's a girl and someone will book him a boob job.

originally posted by: TonyS
a reply to: seasonal

I assume this is a public school?

You get what you pay for. Honestly, if you can't afford private or parochial school, you should reconsider having any kids at all.

There was a private school in Minnesota that had a family enroll their 5-year-old transgender child there specifically so the the family could sue over the lack of transgender curriculum. The school was made to knuckle and the family had withdrawn their transgender child well before the conclusion of the action. Apparently, the father is a transgender rights activist.

a reply to: ketsuko

Can't be, transgenderism is a protected class there for can do no wrong.

originally posted by: notsure1

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: neo96
a reply to: Annee

Here we go again.

For effs sake.

It's KINDERGARTEN.

No one should be supporting this snip.

Gender awareness begins about age 3.

Educate yourself.

You want to deny a gender variant kid from being who he/she is - - - because adults can't handle it.

At what age do they realize they are different races?

When the adults make them aware.

originally posted by: neo96
a reply to: Annee

Educate yourself.

Sorry I'm too busy letting kids be kids instead of projecting BULLSNIP on to them.

I'm a grandmother.

Guess I missed the part of kids being kids.

However, I didn't miss the part of adults having issues - - - that they then transfer on to their kids.

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: notsure1

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: neo96
a reply to: Annee

Here we go again.

For effs sake.

It's KINDERGARTEN.

No one should be supporting this snip.

Gender awareness begins about age 3.

Educate yourself.

You want to deny a gender variant kid from being who he/she is - - - because adults can't handle it.

At what age do they realize they are different races?

When the adults make them aware.

Wow but they aware on there own of gender identity? Do you even hear yourself?

You agree that they are not aware until the adults make them aware?

originally posted by: notsure1

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: notsure1

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: neo96
a reply to: Annee

Here we go again.

For effs sake.

It's KINDERGARTEN.

No one should be supporting this snip.

Gender awareness begins about age 3.

Educate yourself.

You want to deny a gender variant kid from being who he/she is - - - because adults can't handle it.

At what age do they realize they are different races?

When the adults make them aware.

Wow but they aware on there own of identity? Do you even hear yourself?

Gender awareness begins around age 3.

Educate yourself.

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: notsure1

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: notsure1

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: neo96
a reply to: Annee

Here we go again.

For effs sake.

It's KINDERGARTEN.

No one should be supporting this snip.

Gender awareness begins about age 3.

Educate yourself.

You want to deny a gender variant kid from being who he/she is - - - because adults can't handle it.

At what age do they realize they are different races?

When the adults make them aware.

Wow but they aware on there own of identity? Do you even hear yourself?

Gender awareness begins around age 3.

Educate yourself.

Because the parents make them aware? When does knowing what color you are begin?

a reply to: Annee

Well, that's a bit of cognitive dissonance.

They just magically "know" that their personal gender doesn't match their body parts, but, of course, they don't notice how different they may look from their classmates until someone else points that out to them.

originally posted by: MisterSpock

originally posted by: JohnnyCanuck

originally posted by: interupt42
a reply to: seasonal
That is just insane. A kindergarten kid has no idea about sexuality at that age . It would have been more productive and related for the children to have read a book about little johny becoming batman.

That's what you think.
A friend of my daughters has a 6 year old girl. She doesn't like being treated like a girl, and insists that she be addressed by a boys name (which is not a derivative of her own). Her parents are accommodating her wishes.
I would suggest that this young individual has a better idea as to her gender concerns than you do.

Agreed, children are very advanced by the age of 5 or 6, much more intelligent then we give them credit for.

I actually get all my business and personal tax advice from my neighbors 5 year old, he's been a life saver.

Well, I suppose you can if you like but here in Canada the tax code is somewhat complex. Meanwhile...that doesn't really address what I said. Would you, as a parent accommodate your child's wishes and perhaps ready yourself for the possibility that you will need to accept a new normal? Or would you be shutting up your child and doubling down on putting a square peg in a round hole? It's really easy to lay down the law on the interwebz...tougher to deal with reality.