Flat earth theory?

a reply to: ignorant_ape

I cannot remember

Great thread for when one can't sleep lol

How could we transmit signals from one specific point on Earth, via shortwave, over thousands of miles away from it....if the Earth was round?

It couldn't work, at all.

Only on a flat Earth, would it work. This proves Earth is flat, not a big ball.

a reply to: turbonium1

yeah but it could...

and does...

Any explanation as to why you believe it wouldn't work?

a reply to: turbonium1

tell me again why we invented over the horizon radar ?

originally posted by: turbonium1

originally posted by: TerryDon79
Turbo? Please tell us again how bugs can fly with no resistance!

I mean, their wings are just for show, right?

The flapping obviously doesn't do anything, if they have no resistance, right?

Also, please jump off a very VERY tall building, while recording it, to prove there’s no gravity.

Can you also post a photo of someones hand? I mean glove. Nope, I meant hand!

LOL

They use a force which allows them to fly above the Earth, in air. They don't face any resistance from flying above Earth, which you claim exists within Earth, 'holding', and 'pulling down' all objects to the Earth's surface!!

If a force existed within Earth, called 'gravity', which 'held', and 'pulled down', all objects....it would 'hold' all birds, all insects, to the Earth's surface, and if birds, or insects, tried to OPPOSE that immense force, 'holding' all objects to the surface.....it would offer RESISTANCE to the opposing force of birds, or insects, which attempt to fly above the Earth's surface!!

But they fly freely, without any resistance, which proves there is NO force 'holding' or 'pulling down' objects to the Earth's surface.


It's simple to grasp this concept, is it not? A force resists opposing forces. This applies to all real physical forces, no exceptions. A magnet holds metal, and pulling the metal from the magnet offers resistance, by the magnet. A wind which is opposed by someone trying to walk against the wind, will face RESISTANCE from the wind, when trying to walk against it. But, when walking in calm air, there is no RESISTANCE from the wind, and we can walk much easier.

If we swim against a current, it is very hard, even impossible. The force used to swim, is opposed by another force - the current. The current is a force which opposes those swimming against it. The current RESISTS those swimming in the opposite direction of the current, or force, within the river.


You swim against a current, and face resistance. If you swim with the current, you face no resistance, and it's likely much easier to swim, as well. You GO with the force, which allows you to swim faster, easier, then otherwise.


If the current has no effect, or nearly so, swimming is easy. No resistance.



Why would you think a bird faces resistance from a force 'pulling down all objects', when it flies freely above the Earth?

Forces offer resistance to opposing forces, that's how all real forces work.

'Gravity', the greatest of all forces, which resists nothing!!

Gravity is not an immense force as you say , it is actually a rather weak force in comparison to other forces in fact it is the weakest force we know of , in order of strength , the strong Nuclear force, the electromagnetic force, the weak nuclear force and in last place GRAVITY!


that is why we are all able to overcome the force of gravity with enough energy in our muscles , we coil like a spring and jump
releasing the energy and we overcome the weak gravitational force exerted on our mass which hold us down.

and so just like any animal with wings, it beats it wings to over come the "weak" force of gravity exerted on its mass.
Why do you think bigger birds have bigger wings ? because they are larger and therefore require more thrust and energy from their wing muscles to lift their mass against the force of gravity !
Why do you think birds bones have evolved over millions of years to become less dense , which assists them in flight

wings wouldnt have evolved on earth probably if the gravity was a lot higher , maybe at 2.5 G at ground level we wouldnt even have flight capable birds , they'd maybe all be like penguins or chickens

the winged creatures face both gravitational attraction and also air resistance on their beating wings in the form of friction

they have to keep beating their wings and expending energy to fight gravitational affect and air friction !


even when you walk in a calm day you are still under the affect of air friction or drag

why dont you look up the affect of gravity on bone growth , there are plenty of papers on it , plenty of evolutionary biologist have explained the affects of gravity on life !

it cannot be denied

While I don't doubt satellite tv works I'm puzzled how geostationary satellites are possible on a spinning ball.

The earth rotates once every 23 hours, 56 minutes and 4.09053 seconds, called the sidereal period, and its circumference is roughly 40,075 kilometers. Thus, the surface of the earth at the equator moves at a speed of 460 meters per second--or roughly 1,000 miles per hour.

www.scientificamerican.com...

That means the higher the satellite is the faster is has to move to stay stationary.

Satellites that are further away actually travel slower.

howthingsfly.si.edu...

a reply to: Out6of9Balance

They position them far enough out where their orbit is synchronized with the rotation of the earth so they never leave the area they cover...

a reply to: Akragon

That doesn't explain why they remain stationary. It's a globe, remember.

Why do satellite dishes have to be pointed exactly at a satellite (if that's the case) while radios can be anywhere to receive a signal?

Just asking really.

The horizon proves Earth is flat, not round, in fact.


On Earth's surface, you see the horizon at a certain level.

When you are in a plane, or balloon, what does the horizon look like?

The horizon appears higher, than it did when you first saw it, from the surface, right?


The horizon always looks higher, and higher, the higher and higher you are, above the surface, too.


It proves the Earth is flat, and cannot be a sphere, without a doubt.

If Earth was a ball, the horizon would not rise when you are higher above the surface. It would remain as before, or lower than before. It cannot rise, as you rise, higher and higher in air.

No matter how large a sphere is, it cannot appear to rise, when you rise above the surface.


The horizon seen from the surface, is the highest point of ANY spheroid. Going higher above the surface of a sphere, does not make the horizon appear higher then it did on the surface. It cannot.


Only on a flat surface, can the horizon appear to rise, as you rise.



Do you understand this?

if only science could explain why SW technology allows OTH propagation

oh wait : explaination

the TL : DR synopsis = SW can be reflected off atmospheric boundries , allowing OTH propegation - this is not garunteed and has poor reliability

amazing how dishonest idiots miss this

originally posted by: Out6of9Balance
a reply to: Akragon

That doesn't explain why they remain stationary. It's a globe, remember.

ya it actually does...

a reply to: turbonium1

Do you understand this?

No... no one does...

Only you and your people

a reply to: turbonium1

Do you understand this?

Yes, perfectly. I understand that this is perfect nonsense.

originally posted by: turbonium1
How could we transmit signals from one specific point on Earth, via shortwave, over thousands of miles away from it....if the Earth was round?

It couldn't work, at all.

Only on a flat Earth, would it work. This proves Earth is flat, not a big ball.

Then why doesn’t all broadcasting frequencies work that way? Most be something inherent to shortwave.

Shortwave radio

en.m.wikipedia.org...

Radio waves in the shortwave band can be reflected or refracted from a layer of electrically charged atoms in the atmosphere called the ionosphere. Therefore, short waves directed at an angle into the sky can be reflected back to Earth at great distances, beyond the horizon. This is called skywave or "skip" propagation. Thus shortwave radio can be used for very long distance communication, in contrast to radio waves of higher frequency which travel in straight lines (line-of-sight propagation) and are limited by the visual horizon, about 64 km (40 miles).

Turbolag your a hack.

a reply to: turbonium1

Im going to write a really long letter to Elon musk and ask him to send you in one of his rockets

either that or im going to make loads of money become a multi millionaire and buy a space industry then send you and me in a rocket into the earths atmosphere up into space and show you the curvature

one thing I will say is you have so much determination
and patience , I'd have given up long ago with this

a reply to: sapien82

Elon Musk lol. Even the Thunderbirds look more legit.

originally posted by: neutronflux

originally posted by: turbonium1
How could we transmit signals from one specific point on Earth, via shortwave, over thousands of miles away from it....if the Earth was round?

It couldn't work, at all.

Only on a flat Earth, would it work. This proves Earth is flat, not a big ball.

Then why doesn’t all broadcasting frequencies work that way? Most be something inherent to shortwave.

Shortwave radio

en.m.wikipedia.org...

Radio waves in the shortwave band can be reflected or refracted from a layer of electrically charged atoms in the atmosphere called the ionosphere. Therefore, short waves directed at an angle into the sky can be reflected back to Earth at great distances, beyond the horizon. This is called skywave or "skip" propagation. Thus shortwave radio can be used for very long distance communication, in contrast to radio waves of higher frequency which travel in straight lines (line-of-sight propagation) and are limited by the visual horizon, about 64 km (40 miles).

Turbolag your a hack.

So no need for satellites then? Thanks for the explanation.

originally posted by: turbonium1
How could we transmit signals from one specific point on Earth, via shortwave, over thousands of miles away from it....if the Earth was round?

It couldn't work, at all.

Only on a flat Earth, would it work. This proves Earth is flat, not a big ball.

Just how many times are you going to demonstrate in this thread that you simply have no clue?