Spotify Banning Neo Nazi Music

a reply to: ScepticScot

The logic is that private platforms can censure their own content. Self censorship is completely different from legal censorship.

They absolutely can. It is their right to control their business how they see fit. But I'm not talking about whether it is legal or illegal. I am talking about what is right or wrong, good and evil, etc.

originally posted by: LesMisanthrope
a reply to: ScepticScot

The logic is that private platforms can censure their own content. Self censorship is completely different from legal censorship.

They absolutely can. It is their right to control their business how they see fit. But I'm not talking about whether it is legal or illegal. I am talking about what is right or wrong, good and evil, etc.

Fair enough a moral judgement. Is paying royalties to white supremacists right or wrong? Good or evil?

a reply to: ScepticScot

Fair enough a moral judgement. Is paying royalties to white supremacists right or wrong? Good or evil?

Compensating people for their work is always right.

a reply to: MotherMayEye

Assume all you like

Hopefully you feel better now that you got that out.

originally posted by: LesMisanthrope
a reply to: ScepticScot

Fair enough a moral judgement. Is paying royalties to white supremacists right or wrong? Good or evil?

Compensating people for their work is always right.

Cop out answer. Are you really supporting funding white supremacists?

a reply to: ScepticScot

Cop out answer. Are you really supporting funding white supremacists?

Paying them for their work? Yes. Adhering to contractual obligations? Yes. Support funding white supremacists? It didn't take long for you to run your little narrative.

originally posted by: LesMisanthrope
a reply to: ScepticScot

Cop out answer. Are you really supporting funding white supremacists?

Paying them for their work? Yes. Adhering to contractual obligations? Yes. Support funding white supremacists? It didn't take long for you to run your little narrative.

You are the one said it's not about the law but about right and wrong. If they host white supremacists music they legally must pay them royalties.

No narrative of mine required.

a reply to: ScepticScot

You are the one said it's not about the law but about right and wrong. If they host white supremacists music they legally must pay them royalties.

No narrative of mine required.

Yes, and? You wouldn't pay them?

Would you censor them?

originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: LesMisanthrope
a reply to: ScepticScot

No it's yours (well on loan from ATS) just as Spotify platform is theirs.

I'll let you dig yourself out of this hole here. Use ATS or some actual platform as an analogous example, then apply that "logic".

The logic is that private platforms can censure their own content. Self censorship is completely different from legal censorship.

Again, that is so awesome.

Spotify is free to remove content with messages they say do not tolerate. And when they do, I assume whatever *messages* they have not removed are fully endorsed by them.

Spotify endorses misogyny and violence against women. It's fantastic to them.

originally posted by: LesMisanthrope
a reply to: ScepticScot

You are the one said it's not about the law but about right and wrong. If they host white supremacists music they legally must pay them royalties.

No narrative of mine required.

Yes, and? You wouldn't pay them?

Would you censor them?

I wouldn't put myself in a position where I had to pay them. You expect that Spotify should.

And again not censorship.

originally posted by: Shamrock6
a reply to: MotherMayEye

Assume all you like

Hopefully you feel better now that you got that out.

Well, I can safely assume because I can infer from their statement about removing content they do not tolerate.

originally posted by: MotherMayEye

originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: LesMisanthrope
a reply to: ScepticScot

No it's yours (well on loan from ATS) just as Spotify platform is theirs.

I'll let you dig yourself out of this hole here. Use ATS or some actual platform as an analogous example, then apply that "logic".

The logic is that private platforms can censure their own content. Self censorship is completely different from legal censorship.

Again, that is so awesome.

Spotify is free to remove content with messages they say do not tolerate. And when they do, I assume whatever *messages* they have not removed are fully endorsed by them.

Spotify endorses misogyny and violence against women. It's fantastic to them.

Did you read Spotify statement?

If you believe they are providing content that is promoting hatred or violence notify them.

a reply to: ScepticScot

I wouldn't put myself in a position where I had to pay them. You expect that Spotify should.

And again not censorship.

Yes I believe spotify should pay the artists as per the contract. Do you disagree?

Do you agree or disagree that their music should be removed, i.e. censored, from spotify?

originally posted by: LesMisanthrope
a reply to: ScepticScot

I wouldn't put myself in a position where I had to pay them. You expect that Spotify should.

And again not censorship.

Yes I believe spotify should pay the artists as per the contract. Do you disagree?

Do you agree or disagree that their music should be removed, i.e. censored, from spotify?

I believe that Spotify is under no obligation to provide white supremacist content.

Do you?

a reply to: ScepticScot

I believe spotify should pay the artists as per the contract. Do you disagree?

Do you agree that their music should be removed, i.e. censored, from spotify?

originally posted by: LesMisanthrope
a reply to: ScepticScot

I believe spotify should pay the artists as per the contract. Do you disagree?

Do you agree or disagree that their music should be removed, i.e. censored, from spotify?

Already answered.

a reply to: ScepticScot

Already answered.

Already dodged. Are you so unprincipled that you can't even answer a question honestly?

a reply to: MotherMayEye

Spotify is free to remove content for any reason at all, including no reason.

They've also removed songs from the Beach Boys, but I don't think that necessarily means they hate surfing.

Please respect Spotify, the owners of the Content, and other users of the Spotify Service. Don’t engage in any activity, post any User Content, or register and/or use a username, which is or includes material that:

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End of story.

originally posted by: LesMisanthrope
a reply to: ScepticScot

Already answered.

Already dodged. Are you so unprincipled that you can't even answer a question honestly?

My answer was very clear. Not sure what part you don't get.

Spotify does not need to provide a platform for white supremacists music.