Vegetarians Are Nearly Twice As Likely To Be Depressed As Meat-Eaters, Study Finds

a reply to: LightAssassin

Doesn't always work: I'm proof of that.

Part of it is also dependent upon how long you've been a T2D.

What that diet does do for me is: drastically lowers my blood sugar, helps me loose weight, helps me keep that weight off.

So it does help, even if it doesn't reverse the condition.

a reply to: Blaine91555

I'm no longer a vegetarian; I’m NOT preaching to folks to be vegetarians I’m just responding to what I feel is a questionable study.

a reply to: Willtell

I actually agree the study in the OP likely means little and is of little importance.

I do think the evidence of the evolution of our species and what we evolved to eat is sound though.

originally posted by: 0racle
a reply to: ClovenSky

The funniest thing is that vegans/vegetarians think they are not hurting anything, that they are not consuming life. Kind of humorous and sad at the same time.

This argument is ridiculous because many plants survival literally depends on their continued consumption by herbivores and omnivores.

They don't have pain the experience of pain and pleasure in the same way humans and animals do (that we recognize)

You forgot that last part.

It's been proven that plants respond to sound and chemical signatures. Each species wants to live and overtake just like all other species and sub-species. If they didn't have a will to survive they would have not evolved protective measures. Not just as in thorns, but fruits,nuts,seedlings, pollen, these are all adaptations for their survival and spread. Things eat the fruit which spreads the seed. Maples have helicopter seeds to catch wind and further spread.

This is just natural order. Natural order isn't a grand design hints why when something overtakes something else steps in. The world is only cohesive in grand gesture not individualized as we like to make it. We've developed differently in that we've adapted to take on most any challenges. We also developed compassion which I understand is not used appropriately. I just don't think this is the place for that stand to exist. At the end of the day to each Ze-ir?? own.

originally posted by: seagull
Meh. Bacon is *sacrilege warning* overrated.

You've obviously received a debilitating blow to the coconut.

a reply to: seasonal

How exactly do they link this to something physical, as opposed to being depressed because of their outlook?

I.E a meat-eater is not conscious of the cruelty towards animals, nor do they care. They see it as their right.

A vegetarian or vegan is generally more influenced by moralistic outcomes which advocate freedom of beings in all forms.

Naturally, if you are more aware or sympathetic with the suffering in this world, I.e don't pull the wool over your eyes as opposed to keep your head down and just keep eaten dat dere tasty meat, (but mom where does it come from?).

Makes sense that they would be more depressed. Even take into account social standing, oppressive environment (predominantly meat-eating).

a reply to: WorShip

a meat-eater is not conscious of the cruelty towards animals, nor do they care. They see it as their right.

I used to live on a farm in Scotland that raised cows and sheep. I know where my food comes from and how it's treated before it gets to my plate.

Doesn't make me want to meat any less than it did.

a reply to: WorShip

It seems to me the activists are in denial about their own species, what foods serve us best and what we evolved to eat. That's not exactly healthy to be honest.

It's easier for those like me who grew up around farms and ranches and grew up hunting and fishing. It was a part of how we survived financially. The food from hunting and fishing was and still is part of many peoples incomes and how they feed themselves.

This idea of changing to be Vegan's just because people are sheltered from where their food comes from and they freak out when they find out, is more a case of being too sheltered than a case of morality. There simply is nothing immoral about eating our natural diet, anymore than it is immoral for any other animal to eat meat.

a reply to: TerryDon79

The beginnings of sociopathy ^_^

originally posted by: WorShip
a reply to: TerryDon79

The beginnings of sociopathy ^_^

By knowing where my food comes from?

I'd bet a lot of vegetarians/vegans who use supermarkets have no idea how many animals were killed for their food.

a reply to: AugustusMasonicus

In australia, we have a brand called Bertocchi, they make this amazeballs Cafe' bacon......omzg...in love.

originally posted by: LightAssassin
In australia, we have a brand called Bertocchi, they make this amazeballs Cafe' bacon......omzg...in love.

I'll trade you Seagull for some.

a reply to: AugustusMasonicus

Done:
bertocchi.com.au...

These guys just won some major awards too for this bacon....deservedly so.

a reply to: Blaine91555

What we evolved to eat depends on the pressures we were exposed to. So while be may have evolved to eat meat, we have also evolved to not eat meat. If you had millions of years of generations who stopped eating meat and found alternative ways to supplement their health, you would not be "evolved for meat eating". Just because it is the "old" way, the brutish, hunter-gather survival way, does not mean that we should just accept it or not look for alternatives.

FYI, I eat meat too.

Also, people can and do survive without meat. And where do you draw the line, you are meat, maybe i'll eat you? (when the other meat is scarce). If you choose to destroy other entities for your sustenance, then expect to be destroyed for the sustenance of others.

That, only people who wish to lessen suffering are "sheltered", and in denial. Lmao, good propaganda though.

Besides the point actually, what you're arguing. What I said still stands. You have not rebutted me at all.

a reply to: LightAssassin

You'll love him, just remember to feed and water him occasionally.

Forget bacon...


The best tastiest meat I have had is a kosher pastrami sandwich--Russian dressing, cold slaw--from a restaurant on Lexington ave in NYC, the size of a cantaloupe…melts in your mouth…

You cannot even take a bite out of it its so dam big; you have to eat it almost with a fork--a sandwich.

a reply to: TerryDon79

By knowing and not making the emotional/mental connection that you are causing destruction of another entity, and its suffering. That very dislocation = sociopathic

a reply to: Willtell

Get yourself over to Scotland and get some real black pudding and haggis inside ya.

It's so good your taste buds will be fighting over who gets to experience the next taste first.

a reply to: WorShip

You think I don't know an animals getting killed?

I guess the meat fairies just plonked it on my plate lol.

a reply to: Willtell

Have you ever had beef tongue. Sounds bad but is fabulous.