House Resolution 446...The Draining of the Sewer Begins Today 72717....

originally posted by: UKTruth

originally posted by: Krazysh0t

originally posted by: TheTory
a reply to: introvert

Seems to me the Republicans just pulled a "here, I fixed it for you" type of move. Similar to what some people do on ATS posts. Very childish and very telling.

They should have proposed a separate resolution. As it stands, it looks like they are trying to cover for Trump's team and do not want the truths to be found, whatever they may be.

No current investigation will be stalled or impeded. Not sure how uncovering more truth is tantamount to covering truths.

The Republicans are stalling and impeding the Trump investigation with what they did with this bill. You are literally arguing with reality right now.

The reality is that the bill has just been amended to give it a new focus on investigating potential crimes involving Clinton, Comey, Rice, Lynch, the Clinton Foundation and Mueller.

No the reality is that they hijacked a bill trying to get information from the Trump admin in order to investigate something tangentially related and that could have existed as its own unique bill.

originally posted by: Krazysh0t

originally posted by: UKTruth

originally posted by: Krazysh0t

originally posted by: UKTruth

originally posted by: introvert
Seems to me the Republicans just pulled a "here, I fixed it for you" type of move. Similar to what some people do on ATS posts. Very childish and very telling.

They should have proposed a separate resolution. As it stands, it looks like they are trying to cover for Trump's team and do not want the truths to be found, whatever they may be.

Or they have already seen a years worth of 'evidence' producing nothing in relation to collusion with Russia and have decided not to waste time on yet another Democrat propaganda exercise and focus on things that have not been properly investigated. Seems fair.

"Years worth of evidence"? How can that be the case when the investigation hasn't even lasted years yet? Also how is it fair to derail an ongoing investigation in order to dredge up investigations that have already completed?

"a years" or "a year's" if you'd like to be picky.

Irrelevant. Investigators aren't supposed to side line investigations because they are taking too long. They end when they end and no sooner.

A year and nothing. No need for another investigation as there are plenty already. Much better to investigate crimes that were left uninvestigated when Democrats were in power.

originally posted by: UKTruth

originally posted by: Krazysh0t

originally posted by: UKTruth

originally posted by: Krazysh0t

originally posted by: UKTruth

originally posted by: introvert
Seems to me the Republicans just pulled a "here, I fixed it for you" type of move. Similar to what some people do on ATS posts. Very childish and very telling.

They should have proposed a separate resolution. As it stands, it looks like they are trying to cover for Trump's team and do not want the truths to be found, whatever they may be.

Or they have already seen a years worth of 'evidence' producing nothing in relation to collusion with Russia and have decided not to waste time on yet another Democrat propaganda exercise and focus on things that have not been properly investigated. Seems fair.

"Years worth of evidence"? How can that be the case when the investigation hasn't even lasted years yet? Also how is it fair to derail an ongoing investigation in order to dredge up investigations that have already completed?

"a years" or "a year's" if you'd like to be picky.

Irrelevant. Investigators aren't supposed to side line investigations because they are taking too long. They end when they end and no sooner.

A year and nothing. No need for another investigation as there are plenty already. Much better to investigate crimes that were left uninvestigated when Democrats were in power.

What are you talking about? This bill wasn't starting a new investigation. It was furthering one already in progress. Clinton has already been fully investigated 8 times and still haven't been indicted. But to YOU one investigation that hasn't even had a chance to finish investigating Trump is too much and should be ended immediately in order to start a ninth investigation into Clinton, and that is fair to you. PFFFFFT. Get real. You aren't convincing in the slightest.

originally posted by: Krazysh0t

originally posted by: UKTruth

originally posted by: Krazysh0t

originally posted by: TheTory
a reply to: introvert

Seems to me the Republicans just pulled a "here, I fixed it for you" type of move. Similar to what some people do on ATS posts. Very childish and very telling.

They should have proposed a separate resolution. As it stands, it looks like they are trying to cover for Trump's team and do not want the truths to be found, whatever they may be.

No current investigation will be stalled or impeded. Not sure how uncovering more truth is tantamount to covering truths.

The Republicans are stalling and impeding the Trump investigation with what they did with this bill. You are literally arguing with reality right now.

The reality is that the bill has just been amended to give it a new focus on investigating potential crimes involving Clinton, Comey, Rice, Lynch, the Clinton Foundation and Mueller.

No the reality is that they hijacked a bill trying to get information from the Trump admin in order to investigate something tangentially related and that could have existed as its own unique bill.

Nah, that's your interpretation of what other people were attempting to do. The ACTUAL reality is as I stated.
www.abovetopsecret.com...

a reply to: TheTory

No current investigation will be stalled or impeded. Not sure how uncovering more truth is tantamount to covering truths.

It would seem they are trying to cover the search for facts in one case with a another search of their own.Why wouldn't they propose a separate resolution and let the cards fall where they may?

originally posted by: Krazysh0t

originally posted by: UKTruth

originally posted by: Krazysh0t

originally posted by: UKTruth

originally posted by: Krazysh0t

originally posted by: UKTruth

originally posted by: introvert
Seems to me the Republicans just pulled a "here, I fixed it for you" type of move. Similar to what some people do on ATS posts. Very childish and very telling.

They should have proposed a separate resolution. As it stands, it looks like they are trying to cover for Trump's team and do not want the truths to be found, whatever they may be.

Or they have already seen a years worth of 'evidence' producing nothing in relation to collusion with Russia and have decided not to waste time on yet another Democrat propaganda exercise and focus on things that have not been properly investigated. Seems fair.

"Years worth of evidence"? How can that be the case when the investigation hasn't even lasted years yet? Also how is it fair to derail an ongoing investigation in order to dredge up investigations that have already completed?

"a years" or "a year's" if you'd like to be picky.

Irrelevant. Investigators aren't supposed to side line investigations because they are taking too long. They end when they end and no sooner.

A year and nothing. No need for another investigation as there are plenty already. Much better to investigate crimes that were left uninvestigated when Democrats were in power.

What are you talking about? This bill wasn't starting a new investigation. It was furthering one already in progress. Clinton has already been fully investigated 8 times and still haven't been indicted. But to YOU one investigation that hasn't even had a chance to finish investigating Trump is too much and should be ended immediately. PFFFFFT. Get real. You aren't convincing in the slightest.

The bill doesn't just cover Clinton...sure she's part of it, but there is a LOT more covered...FusionGPS, unmasking, etc....none of which were formally investigated.

originally posted by: UKTruth

originally posted by: Krazysh0t

originally posted by: UKTruth

originally posted by: Krazysh0t

originally posted by: TheTory
a reply to: introvert

Seems to me the Republicans just pulled a "here, I fixed it for you" type of move. Similar to what some people do on ATS posts. Very childish and very telling.

They should have proposed a separate resolution. As it stands, it looks like they are trying to cover for Trump's team and do not want the truths to be found, whatever they may be.

No current investigation will be stalled or impeded. Not sure how uncovering more truth is tantamount to covering truths.

The Republicans are stalling and impeding the Trump investigation with what they did with this bill. You are literally arguing with reality right now.

The reality is that the bill has just been amended to give it a new focus on investigating potential crimes involving Clinton, Comey, Rice, Lynch, the Clinton Foundation and Mueller.

No the reality is that they hijacked a bill trying to get information from the Trump admin in order to investigate something tangentially related and that could have existed as its own unique bill.

Nah, that's your interpretation of what other people were attempting to do. The ACTUAL reality is as I stated.
www.abovetopsecret.com...

That would only be true if they added the text to investigate Clinton to the original text of the bill. Instead, they replaced it.

originally posted by: Krazysh0t

originally posted by: UKTruth

originally posted by: Krazysh0t

originally posted by: UKTruth

originally posted by: Krazysh0t

originally posted by: UKTruth

originally posted by: introvert
Seems to me the Republicans just pulled a "here, I fixed it for you" type of move. Similar to what some people do on ATS posts. Very childish and very telling.

They should have proposed a separate resolution. As it stands, it looks like they are trying to cover for Trump's team and do not want the truths to be found, whatever they may be.

Or they have already seen a years worth of 'evidence' producing nothing in relation to collusion with Russia and have decided not to waste time on yet another Democrat propaganda exercise and focus on things that have not been properly investigated. Seems fair.

"Years worth of evidence"? How can that be the case when the investigation hasn't even lasted years yet? Also how is it fair to derail an ongoing investigation in order to dredge up investigations that have already completed?

"a years" or "a year's" if you'd like to be picky.

Irrelevant. Investigators aren't supposed to side line investigations because they are taking too long. They end when they end and no sooner.

A year and nothing. No need for another investigation as there are plenty already. Much better to investigate crimes that were left uninvestigated when Democrats were in power.

What are you talking about? This bill wasn't starting a new investigation. It was furthering one already in progress. Clinton has already been fully investigated 8 times and still haven't been indicted. But to YOU one investigation that hasn't even had a chance to finish investigating Trump is too much and should be ended immediately in order to start a ninth investigation into Clinton, and that is fair to you. PFFFFFT. Get real. You aren't convincing in the slightest.

I am talking about reality - the one in which not a single part of the amendment has been investigated formally.
www.abovetopsecret.com...

a reply to: Krazysh0t

The Republicans are stalling and impeding the Trump investigation with what they did with this bill. You are literally arguing with reality right now.

No, it's impeding the Dems effort, not any existing investigation. Reality wins.

a reply to: Vasa Croe

I don't care what it does. It is a partisan stunt to impede an investigation. None of you can give a reason why the revised bill and the original bill can't exist as two separate bills or hell even one combined bill.

originally posted by: TheTory
a reply to: Krazysh0t

The Republicans are stalling and impeding the Trump investigation with what they did with this bill. You are literally arguing with reality right now.

No, it's impeding the Dems effort, not any existing investigation. Reality wins.

Ok... Now I think you have mental problems if you don't think there is currently an investigation being done by the House committee on Trump.

originally posted by: Krazysh0t
a reply to: Vasa Croe

I don't care what it does. It is a partisan stunt to impede an investigation. None of you can give a reason why the revised bill and the original bill can't exist as two separate bills or hell even one combined bill.

I already did give you a reason as did the Committee.
There are several investigations already into Russia and none of them have produced any evidence. No one wants to waste anymore time on it except for political purposes and the Committee rejected those purposes. It may have helped the Democrats cause if they had not lied and used rumours to try and keep their elements of the investigation in play.

originally posted by: UKTruth

originally posted by: Krazysh0t
a reply to: Vasa Croe

I don't care what it does. It is a partisan stunt to impede an investigation. None of you can give a reason why the revised bill and the original bill can't exist as two separate bills or hell even one combined bill.

I already did give you a reason as did the Committee.
There are several investigations already into Russia and none of them have produced any evidence. No one wants to waste anymore time on it except for political purposes and the Committee rejected those purposes. It may have helped the Democrats cause if they had not lied and used rumours to try and keep their elements of the investigation in play.

That isn't a reason to impede an investigation. THAT is a deflection.

a reply to: Krazysh0t

Seriously, why are you so obsessed with saving Hillary?

I mean, a war criminal! And that's just scratching the surface. How could you condone all that?

originally posted by: Krazysh0t

originally posted by: UKTruth

originally posted by: Krazysh0t
a reply to: Vasa Croe

I don't care what it does. It is a partisan stunt to impede an investigation. None of you can give a reason why the revised bill and the original bill can't exist as two separate bills or hell even one combined bill.

I already did give you a reason as did the Committee.
There are several investigations already into Russia and none of them have produced any evidence. No one wants to waste anymore time on it except for political purposes and the Committee rejected those purposes. It may have helped the Democrats cause if they had not lied and used rumours to try and keep their elements of the investigation in play.

That isn't a reason to impede an investigation. THAT is a deflection.

There has been no investigation impeded. The stage the House Judicial Committee is at is to define the scope of the investigation. It's now defined.

No other investigations are impacted.

Ahh, I love these.

The end of the Clintons! And the DNC!

Thread # 1,678,354.

I'm curious, how many times will everyone have to get burned by these type of stories before you see them for what they are?

I've said it before and I'll say it again, I need to start some type of business catering to the right wing. Doesn't matter what, as long as you can work something anti-Clinton into it people will buy it without thinking. Over and over and over again..

originally posted by: underwerks
Ahh, I love these.

The end of the Clintons! And the DNC!

Thread # 1,678,354.

I'm curious, how many times will everyone have to get burned by these type of stories before you see them for what they are?

I've said it before and I'll say it again, I need to start some type of business catering to the right wing. Doesn't matter what, as long as you can work something anti-Clinton into it people will buy it without thinking. Over and over and over again..

You missed the boat - the industry for post investigation stress disorder has already been saturated by people ready to catch falling Democrats from the disappointment of the Russian investigation.

a reply to: Grambler

Yes it seems his precise language was wrong, he wasn't wiretapped. Instead the Obama admin unmasked tons of people in his campaign and connected to him illegally.

And yet apparently you are more concerned with Trump hyperbolic claim of this being wiretapping than you are that Obama actually was using intelligence agencies to hurt his political opponents.

Precise language was wrong?

Trump wasn't wiretapped. Trump wasn't under surveillance at all, nor has anyone claimed that he was picked up in incidental collection. Furthermore, the administration went so far as to publicly and falsely accuse our allies, the British, of having done this thing that didn't happen.

And realizing that Trump, the President of the United States of America, straight up lied in his extremely serious allegations made on Twitter of all places, the administration set about trying to find someway to make some part of it seem true.

So they got Flynn's protege to dig around and they found something they thought fit the bill and called up Devin Nunes, who was overseeing the House investigation and colluded with him to present a distraction in an effort to derail the investigation.

Where are you getting "Obama actually was using intelligence agencies to hurt his political opponents" or that "tons of people in his campaign" and otherwise connected to Trump were unmasked?

I might be missing something but I haven't seen any information that details how many people were possibly unmasked or that any of them were part of the campaign. Nor have I seen any information beyond speculation and insinuation that the unmasking was improper or directed by Obama, let alone done so to "hurt his political opponents."

I'm all for this being investigated and I'll look forward to the results but as of now, it appears to be mostly a fizzled attempt at creating a narrative to distract from the investigation of Russian interference.

If you have information that I do not, I'll certainly take a look at it and update my opinions accordingly.

originally posted by: luthier
a reply to: UKTruth

OK nostrodamous. Once/if that happens it will be about a year or more before results turn up.

Also highly doubt that happens but could be wrong.

Take a gander at who is on the comittee. Lots of fat cats. Seriously doubt they want to be exposed. On thing leads to another when you investigate stuff like this and the Republicans will not get away clean.


I am willing to bet this is a dog and pony show.

Try watching George Webb on YT.Some in congress are potentially being blackmailed,extorted,bribed etc.It only takes a few people in the (im)proper places to do bad things.Maybe this is there way to get out.My 2cents.

a reply to: Krazysh0t

Ok... Now I think you have mental problems if you don't think there is currently an investigation being done by the House committee on Trump.

Then what are they "stonewalling"?