In Defense of Hate Speech

originally posted by: InTheLight

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: InTheLight

Do you want to silence the KKK?

Does the KKK want to silence me?

Uhhhhhh. . . . . . . .

so you want to silence the KKK because the KKK is trying to silence you.

Good post, star and flag

Freedom of speech is guaranteed in this country. It is not just the freedom to say pleasant things that will offend no one.

It is the freedom to say things that may make people uncomfortable.

It is the freedom to criticize what may be a popular political position.

It is the freedom to express yourself even though people many hate what you say.

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: InTheLight

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: InTheLight

Do you want to silence the KKK?

Does the KKK want to silence me?

Uhhhhhh. . . . . . . .

so you want to silence the KKK because the KKK is trying to silence you.

You seem to know what I want...you tell me.

A thought just occurred to me.

The media, journalists, writers, used to be not just the forefront of speech, but they were the disseminators, the guardians of speech.

Literacy is a fairly recent acquisition.

They, throughout history, were the keepers of the written word.

Were free speech clauses written into society to protect not the common man, but the literate one?

originally posted by: InTheLight

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: InTheLight

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: InTheLight

Do you want to silence the KKK?

Does the KKK want to silence me?

Uhhhhhh. . . . . . . .

so you want to silence the KKK because the KKK is trying to silence you.

You seem to know what I want...you tell me.

I made a declarative statement to see if you would expand on your reluctance to grant free speech to the KKK.

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: InTheLight

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: InTheLight

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: InTheLight

Do you want to silence the KKK?

Does the KKK want to silence me?

Uhhhhhh. . . . . . . .

so you want to silence the KKK because the KKK is trying to silence you.

You seem to know what I want...you tell me.

I made a declarative statement to see if you would expand on your reluctance to grant free speech to the KKK.

I have no control on what the KKK say or don't say, what are you really trying to say?

Controversial groups like Nazis or KKK should have the right to free speech.

However others may choose to counter the statements with their opinions.

I think that if the KKK or Nazis want to march and speak, they have that right. I also think if no one showed up to listen that would be a very powerful statement

originally posted by: DBCowboy
A thought just occurred to me.

The media, journalists, writers, used to be not just the forefront of speech, but they were the disseminators, the guardians of speech.

Literacy is a fairly recent acquisition.

They, throughout history, were the keepers of the written word.

Were free speech clauses written into society to protect not the common man, but the literate one?

I like the way journalists have gone...in the realm of investigative journalism. Asking those hard hitting invastive/investigative questions appear as though one is insulting the interviewee; no distinction.

a reply to: InTheLight

I'll repeat my question.

Do you think that the KKK should have freedom of speech?

I'm sorry, well I'm not actually, I refuse to defend a radical hate preacher brainwashing young and/or illiterate minds with their 72 virgins schtick...

The same way I refuse to defend a neo-Nazi brainwashing a young impressionable delinquent into a life of hatred and possible violence.


You can. But I won't.

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: InTheLight

I'll repeat my question.

Do you think that the KKK should have freedom of speech?

I'll repeat my question too.

Do you think that the KKK want to take away my freedom of speech?

originally posted by: Hazardous1408
I'm sorry, well I'm not actually, I refuse to defend a radical hate preacher brainwashing young and/or illiterate minds with their 72 virgins schtick...

The same way I refuse to defend a neo-Nazi brainwashing a young impressionable delinquent into a life of hatred and possible violence.


You can. But I won't.

Really, do all people practicing Islamist teachings believe in those 72 virgins schtick?

a reply to: InTheLight

It was a simple question.

It's a testament that you won't answer.

I can only take from your statements that you would deny freedoms to people with whom you disagree with ideologically.

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: InTheLight

It was a simple question.

It's a testament that you won't answer.

I can only take from your statements that you would deny freedoms to people with whom you disagree with ideologically.

When you assume you make an ass of you, not me.

originally posted by: Hazardous1408
I'm sorry, well I'm not actually, I refuse to defend a radical hate preacher brainwashing young and/or illiterate minds with their 72 virgins schtick...

The same way I refuse to defend a neo-Nazi brainwashing a young impressionable delinquent into a life of hatred and possible violence.


You can. But I won't.

You're too busy enjoying your freedoms to defend them.

a reply to: LesMisanthrope



i read your opening post and after a bit of thought, i have to say i can see your point.

but to make myself clear, it's one thing to state claims against a people/person religion, race, or whatever. i can support a person's right to speak their mind in this forum. i may not agree with it, but i support someone's right to speak their mind.

it's quite another to get into someone's face and yell obscenities. to provoke violence or intimidation through words. that i don't support.

originally posted by: LesMisanthrope

originally posted by: Hazardous1408
I'm sorry, well I'm not actually, I refuse to defend a radical hate preacher brainwashing young and/or illiterate minds with their 72 virgins schtick...

The same way I refuse to defend a neo-Nazi brainwashing a young impressionable delinquent into a life of hatred and possible violence.


You can. But I won't.

You're too busy enjoying your freedoms to defend them.

Our freedoms as you call them are precarious at best.

a reply to: InTheLight

No, only the ones who have never read the Quran.

Or maybe they proscribe to a Hadith I'm unfamiliar with, but the Muslims I know will all tell you that there is no 72 virgins.

originally posted by: LesMisanthrope

originally posted by: Hazardous1408
I'm sorry, well I'm not actually, I refuse to defend a radical hate preacher brainwashing young and/or illiterate minds with their 72 virgins schtick...

The same way I refuse to defend a neo-Nazi brainwashing a young impressionable delinquent into a life of hatred and possible violence.


You can. But I won't.

You're too busy enjoying your freedoms to defend them.

No not really...

That's just where my moral compass lies. It's ingrained in me.

originally posted by: Hazardous1408
a reply to: InTheLight

No, only the ones who have never read the Quran.

Or maybe they proscribe to a Hadith I'm unfamiliar with, but the Muslims I know will all tell you that there is no 72 virgins.

Additionally, women don't have to cover themselves...except their cleavage; for whatever reason that may be? I read it.