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Late you come but still you come!
“…You talk about persecution. I think there are few of us here present who were not forced to pay in prison for the persecution you practiced. Few of us here present who were not made to feel the effects of that persecution in acts of harassment a thousand times over and incidents of suppression a thousand times over! And in addition to those of us here present, I know a company of hundreds of thousands who were at the mercy of a system of persecution which vent itself on them in a disgraceful, even in a positively despicable manner! You seem to have totally forgotten that, for years, our shirts were ripped off our backs because you did not approve of the color.
Let us stay within the realm of reality! Your persecution has made us strong! You also said that criticism is beneficial. We will take criticism from anyone who loves Germany. But we will take no criticism from anyone who worships the Internationale! Here too, you have come to your realization a good deal too late, Mr. Deputy.
You should have recognized the beneficial power of criticism when we were in the opposition. Back then, you had not yet been confronted with these words; back then our press was forbidden and forbidden and again forbidden; our assemblies were banned; we were not allowed to speak, and I was not allowed to speak- and that went on for years! And now you say criticism is beneficial!”
“Oh? And when the last law was down, and the Devil turned 'round on you, where would you hide, Roper, the laws all being flat? This country's planted thick with laws from coast to coast– man's laws, not God's– and if you cut them down—and you're just the man to do it—do you really think you could stand upright in the winds that would blow then? Yes, I'd give the Devil benefit of law for my own safety's sake.”
originally posted by: JoshuaCox
a reply to: LesMisanthrope
So you should be able to tell people to do violence and it still be considered free speech?!?
originally posted by: LesMisanthrope
a reply to: JoshuaCox
So you should be able to tell people to do violence and it still be considered free speech?!?
Speech is speech. You should be able to say what you want. The problem is not necessarily the speaker, but those who do his bidding.
Society at large asks for decency and civility...that includes holding your tongue with certain subjects, LesM, so as not to offend. Read your audience, then plan your speech. That is why we have the 'mud pit'.
originally posted by: LesMisanthrope
a reply to: InTheLight
Society at large asks for decency and civility...that includes holding your tongue with certain subjects, LesM, so as not to offend. Read your audience, then plan your speech. That is why we have the 'mud pit'.
If someone is offended by what I wrote they clearly did not read it.
No, you do not take direction well, do you?
originally posted by: JoshuaCox
a reply to: LesMisanthrope
So you should be able to tell people to do violence and it still be considered free speech?!?
This is a very important question - think about it. Think about KKK and protestors who turn to violence to make their free speech heard. Is it really then free speech or anarchy or the start of a revolution?
originally posted by: LesMisanthrope
a reply to: InTheLight
This is a very important question - think about it. Think about KKK and protestors who turn to violence to make their free speech heard. Is it really then free speech or anarchy or the start of a revolution?
They do not resort to violence to make their free speech heard, and no worse piece of sophistry has been uttered. They resort to violence to censor others.
originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: InTheLight
Do you want to silence the KKK?