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originally posted by: MisterSpock
So what age is too young to analyse and diagnose GD?
3 years old? 5 years old? What age should we allot hormone blockers to be administered?
originally posted by: InTheLight
I have not read through this thread, just to lay the land.
I grew up a tom boy, that is what my condition was named, but I was athletic and feminine and strong and so much more.
Who can define an individual's unique individual existence?
I certainly can not.
But, I am feminine, yet strong...what does that entail along the lines DNA and gender?
originally posted by: ketsuko
a reply to: InTheLight
I was a tomboy and proud of it. Today they would likely try to tell me I am gender confused because of it.
originally posted by: Abysha
originally posted by: Wardaddy454
originally posted by: Abysha
originally posted by: Wardaddy454
originally posted by: InThisTwilight
Hello, I just wanted to share this info with you all:
“Rates of suicide are twenty times greater among adults who use cross-sex hormones and undergo sex reassignment surgery, even in Sweden which is among the most LGBTQ – affirming countries. What compassionate and reasonable person would condemn young children to this fate knowing that after puberty as many as 88% of girls and 98% of boys will eventually accept reality and achieve a state of mental and physical health?”
theamericanrevenant.com..." target="_blank" class="postlink">“Gender Identity” Concept Came From A Pedophile and Human Experimenter
There was also this famous study done where a doctor took twin boys and raised them as a boy and girl. I can't remember the name of the Doc or the study, but I do remember that it didn't end well.
Yeah... that study actually provided evidence that gender dysphoria is a thing and not a product of environment.
I'd have gender dysphoria too if I was forced by a Doc to grow up as a girl. Would explain why both committed suicide later on.
OF COURSE YOU WOULD! Because you are not a girl! That's the point. You can't turn somebody into a girl or a boy if they know they are something else. If you were forced to live as a girl, yes, you would have gender dysphoria since you know you are really a boy.
That's what that experiment was all about.
originally posted by: Abysha
originally posted by: ketsuko
So how are we to handle this? Zinnia Jones thinks straight men who won't date transwomen need to work through that.
So we're setting these kids up for a tough life like Zinnia has where she had to be upset that straight men won't basically date a biological male, no matter how much like a woman she has made herself appear to be. She really shouldn't be shocked.
I wonder how the gay allies are going to take this because now the trans-activists like Zinnia are saying that you should not be locked in your sexual preferences by your biological sex, which is how gays define themselves, but solely by your gender preferences so that transpeople can be dated and accepted for who they want to be, not who they actually are.
And this is what we are setting these kids up for in their lives.
She does not speak for everybody, let alone other transwomen.
What she needs to get over is the fact that a dude not wanting to sleep with a woman who has a penis is not transphobia. It's simply a dude who isn't comfortable enough around penises.
I've had straight guys tell me, in the most sensitive and respectful ways that, even though they are attracted to me, they can't get past that fact and to call them after my operation, lol.
I've also had straight guys (like my current boyfriend) who never had any thoughts one way or another about penises and just adored me anyway.
In neither of those cases are those men transphobic. Most people don't believe the way Zinnia Jones does.
originally posted by: ketsuko
a reply to: InTheLight
I was a tomboy and proud of it. Today they would likely try to tell me I am gender confused because of it.
originally posted by: Abysha
originally posted by: knowledgehunter0986
a reply to: Abysha
... you cannot dismiss social pressure, and maybe some people try to force themselves to be something they are not, which can explain the confusion, the depression and mental illness that follows.
You just described gender dysphoria. A large part of it is distress caused by forcing themselves to be something they are not.
originally posted by: knowledgehunter0986
My imo though, is you can definitely be nurtured, the human condition is extremely complex and to say otherwise would be naive.
No. Time and time again, history has shown us that you cannot force a person to be a gender they know they are not. As with that study with the twins, and the "sister". He was raised only knowing a vagina and female pronouns. Yet he knew he was a boy and later discovered he was only a "girl" because of a botched circumcision.
originally posted by: ParasuvO
originally posted by: Annee
originally posted by: CurlySue
You label them a HATE group? Are you insane? Wow, just wow...
originally posted by: kaylaluv
a reply to: CurlySue
American college of Pediatricians - "a hate group with a history of propagating damaging falsehoods against the LGBT community"
I can't post a link right now, but look them up on Wikipedia.
Anything that doesn't push you narrative gets a label and pushed to the sidelines, I see how you guys and gals work.
They are a hate group.
Those who have programmed you...and all that you stand for have till october to vacate.
Please believe me.
originally posted by: knowledgehunter0986
a reply to: IgnoranceIsntBlisss
That's because they themselves have been socially engineered to not understand it..
originally posted by: ParasuvO
This will be stopped by an UNBELIEVABLY powerful force who has fully awakened to what must be done.
originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: knowledgehunter0986
There's a fine line between helping a child cope with gender identity issues and child exploitation because of parental issues/politics.
originally posted by: Simon_Boudreaux
and how many of them are acting how their parent/parents are conditioning them to act.
originally posted by: Simon_Boudreaux
originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: knowledgehunter0986
There's a fine line between helping a child cope with gender identity issues and child exploitation because of parental issues/politics.
I've often wondered just how many of these kids actually have a gender identity issue, and how many of them are acting how their parent/parents are conditioning them to act.
Children with the condition may show some of the following features –
Insisting that they belong to the other sex.
Calling oneself by a name suitable for the opposite sex and trying to pass off as a child of the opposite sex.
Persistent fantasies of being the other sex.
Preference for cross-dressing or cross-sex roles in play.
Strong preference for playmates of the other sex.
Disliking or refusing to urinate as per sexual norms.
Intense desire to participate in stereotypical games, activities and pastimes of the opposite sex.
Distress at the secondary sexual changes during puberty.
Isolation and rejection from peers and rejection from social interactions.
originally posted by: Simon_Boudreaux
originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: knowledgehunter0986
There's a fine line between helping a child cope with gender identity issues and child exploitation because of parental issues/politics.
I've often wondered just how many of these kids actually have a gender identity issue, and how many of them are acting how their parent/parents are conditioning them to act.