If you give a Mouse a Cookie and the Liberal LGBT Agenda

a reply to: GuidedKill

"Son, I want you to be gay and not have children when you become adult so we'll raise you that way."

originally posted by: Deaf Alien
a reply to: GuidedKill

"Son, I want you to be gay and not have children when you become adult so we'll raise you that way."

Said by no parent ever...

originally posted by: Krazysh0t

originally posted by: Deaf Alien
a reply to: GuidedKill

"Son, I want you to be gay and not have children when you become adult so we'll raise you that way."

Said by no parent ever...

Exactly.

The field of epigenetics is quickly growing and with it the understanding that both the environment and individual lifestyle can also directly interact with the genome to influence epigenetic change. These changes may be reflected at various stages throughout a person’s life and even in later generations. For example, human epidemiological studies have provided evidence that prenatal and early postnatal environmental factors influence the adult risk of developing various chronic diseases and behavioral disorders.5 Studies have shown that children born during the period of the Dutch famine from 1944-1945 have increased rates of coronary heart disease and obesity after maternal exposure to famine during early pregnancy compared to those not exposed to famine.6 Less DNA methylation of the insulin-like growth factor II (IGF2) gene, a well-characterized epigenetic locus, was found to be associated with this exposure.7 Likewise, adults that were prenatally exposed to famine conditions have also been reported to have significantly higher incidence of schizophrenia

www.whatisepigenetics.com...


Right here in the definition....Imagine that exactly what I have been saying...

Now who's the fool?

originally posted by: GuidedKill

originally posted by: TinySickTears
a reply to: kaylaluv

Much bigger problems.
People can be such assholes sometimes.
Unreal how bent out of shape people get. Have to start talking gay genes and moral fabric of society.
Give it a rest.
People have a right to be happy.
Let's just say people choose to be gay. So what?
What is the problem?

I really have zero concern about the moral fabric of society. I know the values and ideals that are important to me and that's what I teach my daughter.

Lots of bigots in here. Sad really

There is no problem choosing to be gay...Matter of fact my first comment say no one should be discriminated against...It's when people start trying to say science backs them being gay and it wasn't a choice where my panties get in a wad...

If you want to be gay then be gay, OWN THAT #!! But don't go around saying "I didn't choose to be gay, I was born this way so, I'm a victim" F that crap. you chose the lifestyle to own it and everything that comes with it. Why can't gay people just be proud of deciding to be gay?? What's the big deal??

You're stuck on repeat with the idea that it must have been a decision. I can tell you from first-hand experience, that there's no decision to be made with sexual orientation. Well, actually, there is one decision. It's whether to hide your sexual orientation from the rest of the world, settle down with an opposite sex partner who probably doesn't know your secret, and go on your merry way.

People don't choose to be gay. They just don't. No matter how many times you say they do, it doesn't change anything.

And does anyone else find it odd that the people who are so convinced that being gay is a choice are usually self-identified heterosexuals? Why is that?

originally posted by: icanteven

originally posted by: GuidedKill

originally posted by: TinySickTears
a reply to: kaylaluv

Much bigger problems.
People can be such assholes sometimes.
Unreal how bent out of shape people get. Have to start talking gay genes and moral fabric of society.
Give it a rest.
People have a right to be happy.
Let's just say people choose to be gay. So what?
What is the problem?

I really have zero concern about the moral fabric of society. I know the values and ideals that are important to me and that's what I teach my daughter.

Lots of bigots in here. Sad really

There is no problem choosing to be gay...Matter of fact my first comment say no one should be discriminated against...It's when people start trying to say science backs them being gay and it wasn't a choice where my panties get in a wad...

If you want to be gay then be gay, OWN THAT #!! But don't go around saying "I didn't choose to be gay, I was born this way so, I'm a victim" F that crap. you chose the lifestyle to own it and everything that comes with it. Why can't gay people just be proud of deciding to be gay?? What's the big deal??

You're stuck on repeat with the idea that it must have been a decision. I can tell you from first-hand experience, that there's no decision to be made with sexual orientation. Well, actually, there is one decision. It's whether to hide your sexual orientation from the rest of the world, settle down with an opposite sex partner who probably doesn't know your secret, and go on your merry way.

People don't choose to be gay. They just don't. No matter how many times you say they do, it doesn't change anything.

And does anyone else find it odd that the people who are so convinced that being gay is a choice are usually self-identified heterosexuals? Why is that?

Says you...Science says otherwise.

a reply to: GuidedKill

Exactly. Those Dutch people did not choose to have an increased threat of coronary heart disease. Nor did they learn to be at an increased risk. The genes that put them at a higher risk were triggered by external stimuli (aka environment.)

originally posted by: GuidedKill

The field of epigenetics is quickly growing and with it the understanding that both the environment and individual lifestyle can also directly interact with the genome to influence epigenetic change. These changes may be reflected at various stages throughout a person’s life and even in later generations. For example, human epidemiological studies have provided evidence that prenatal and early postnatal environmental factors influence the adult risk of developing various chronic diseases and behavioral disorders.5 Studies have shown that children born during the period of the Dutch famine from 1944-1945 have increased rates of coronary heart disease and obesity after maternal exposure to famine during early pregnancy compared to those not exposed to famine.6 Less DNA methylation of the insulin-like growth factor II (IGF2) gene, a well-characterized epigenetic locus, was found to be associated with this exposure.7 Likewise, adults that were prenatally exposed to famine conditions have also been reported to have significantly higher incidence of schizophrenia

www.whatisepigenetics.com...


Right here in the definition....Imagine that exactly what I have been saying...

Now who's the fool?

You. You keep contradicting yourself. You're posting legitimate things like above, but it still doesn't back up the point you've been trying to make that being gay is a choice/lifestyle.

So, if you so clearly understand epigenetics, explain how it proves that being gay is a choice? Because it doesn't. In fact, it proves that BECAUSE OF IT OCCURRING THRU PARTIAL GENETIC MAKEUP, that it IS NOT a choice.

You continue to contradict yourself post after post within your very own post.

originally posted by: GuidedKill

originally posted by: icanteven

originally posted by: GuidedKill

originally posted by: TinySickTears
a reply to: kaylaluv

Much bigger problems.
People can be such assholes sometimes.
Unreal how bent out of shape people get. Have to start talking gay genes and moral fabric of society.
Give it a rest.
People have a right to be happy.
Let's just say people choose to be gay. So what?
What is the problem?

I really have zero concern about the moral fabric of society. I know the values and ideals that are important to me and that's what I teach my daughter.

Lots of bigots in here. Sad really

There is no problem choosing to be gay...Matter of fact my first comment say no one should be discriminated against...It's when people start trying to say science backs them being gay and it wasn't a choice where my panties get in a wad...

If you want to be gay then be gay, OWN THAT #!! But don't go around saying "I didn't choose to be gay, I was born this way so, I'm a victim" F that crap. you chose the lifestyle to own it and everything that comes with it. Why can't gay people just be proud of deciding to be gay?? What's the big deal??

You're stuck on repeat with the idea that it must have been a decision. I can tell you from first-hand experience, that there's no decision to be made with sexual orientation. Well, actually, there is one decision. It's whether to hide your sexual orientation from the rest of the world, settle down with an opposite sex partner who probably doesn't know your secret, and go on your merry way.

People don't choose to be gay. They just don't. No matter how many times you say they do, it doesn't change anything.

And does anyone else find it odd that the people who are so convinced that being gay is a choice are usually self-identified heterosexuals? Why is that?

Says you...Science says otherwise.

Science DOES NOT prove otherwise. In fact, all the things you're posting show that is DOES NOT prove otherwise.

a reply to: GuidedKill

Science doesn't "say otherwise."

In fact, here's a cite from a good article that looks across a variety of studies:

"For men, studies suggest that orientation is fixed by the time the individual reaches puberty. Women show greater levels of 'erotic plasticity,' meaning their levels of attraction are more significantly shaped by culture, experience and love than is the case for men. However, even women who switch from gay to straight lifestyles don't stop being attracted to women, according to a 2012 study in the journal Archives of Sexual Behavior." www.livescience.com...

originally posted by: ReyaPhemhurth

originally posted by: GuidedKill

The field of epigenetics is quickly growing and with it the understanding that both the environment and individual lifestyle can also directly interact with the genome to influence epigenetic change. These changes may be reflected at various stages throughout a person’s life and even in later generations. For example, human epidemiological studies have provided evidence that prenatal and early postnatal environmental factors influence the adult risk of developing various chronic diseases and behavioral disorders.5 Studies have shown that children born during the period of the Dutch famine from 1944-1945 have increased rates of coronary heart disease and obesity after maternal exposure to famine during early pregnancy compared to those not exposed to famine.6 Less DNA methylation of the insulin-like growth factor II (IGF2) gene, a well-characterized epigenetic locus, was found to be associated with this exposure.7 Likewise, adults that were prenatally exposed to famine conditions have also been reported to have significantly higher incidence of schizophrenia

www.whatisepigenetics.com...


Right here in the definition....Imagine that exactly what I have been saying...

Now who's the fool?

You. You keep contradicting yourself. You're posting legitimate things like above, but it still doesn't back up the point you've been trying to make that being gay is a choice/lifestyle.

So, if you so clearly understand epigenetics, explain how it proves that being gay is a choice? Because it doesn't. In fact, it proves that BECAUSE OF IT OCCURRING THRU PARTIAL GENETIC MAKEUP, that it IS NOT a choice.

You continue to contradict yourself post after post within your very own post.

How is it a contradiction?? I said being gay was a choice. I also said in reference to the OP that society pushing the gay agenda makes it more socially acceptable and that environment could/would lead to more people being gay.

And then you linked a study saying that via epigenetics gay was not a choice, however epigenetics is the study of how ones environment or social upbringing could affect them genetically in the future...I laymans terms that is saying that if a person/persons over generations are learning to be gay or raised gay they are more likely to be gay....

It is still learned behavior from your environment and social surrounding....It is just a change that is happening over generations not over night. Just like social engineering....If you are raised one way and your family have been doing that for years your are more likely to do the same...

How can you not understand what you posted?

originally posted by: ReyaPhemhurth

originally posted by: GuidedKill

originally posted by: icanteven

originally posted by: GuidedKill

originally posted by: TinySickTears
a reply to: kaylaluv

Much bigger problems.
People can be such assholes sometimes.
Unreal how bent out of shape people get. Have to start talking gay genes and moral fabric of society.
Give it a rest.
People have a right to be happy.
Let's just say people choose to be gay. So what?
What is the problem?

I really have zero concern about the moral fabric of society. I know the values and ideals that are important to me and that's what I teach my daughter.

Lots of bigots in here. Sad really

There is no problem choosing to be gay...Matter of fact my first comment say no one should be discriminated against...It's when people start trying to say science backs them being gay and it wasn't a choice where my panties get in a wad...

If you want to be gay then be gay, OWN THAT #!! But don't go around saying "I didn't choose to be gay, I was born this way so, I'm a victim" F that crap. you chose the lifestyle to own it and everything that comes with it. Why can't gay people just be proud of deciding to be gay?? What's the big deal??

You're stuck on repeat with the idea that it must have been a decision. I can tell you from first-hand experience, that there's no decision to be made with sexual orientation. Well, actually, there is one decision. It's whether to hide your sexual orientation from the rest of the world, settle down with an opposite sex partner who probably doesn't know your secret, and go on your merry way.

People don't choose to be gay. They just don't. No matter how many times you say they do, it doesn't change anything.

And does anyone else find it odd that the people who are so convinced that being gay is a choice are usually self-identified heterosexuals? Why is that?

Says you...Science says otherwise.

Science DOES NOT prove otherwise. In fact, all the things you're posting show that is DOES NOT prove otherwise.

So two men can reproduce?? Can two women reproduce????

Only a male and a female can reproduce is not a known science fact??

Wow where I have been all these years?

originally posted by: kaylaluv
I know what you mean. It's like black people. If you let 'em sit at the front of the bus, next thing you know, they wanna drink from the "whites only" fountain. Then they'll want to be able to get in the same colleges as the white folks and have access to the same jobs. Where's it gonna end?

How DARE they get all "uppity" RIGHT?

/s

SMH...

originally posted by: icanteven
a reply to: GuidedKill

Science doesn't "say otherwise."

In fact, here's a cite from a good article that looks across a variety of studies:

"For men, studies suggest that orientation is fixed by the time the individual reaches puberty. Women show greater levels of 'erotic plasticity,' meaning their levels of attraction are more significantly shaped by culture, experience and love than is the case for men. However, even women who switch from gay to straight lifestyles don't stop being attracted to women, according to a 2012 study in the journal Archives of Sexual Behavior." www.livescience.com...

Nice article....where is the medical journal supporting the articles beliefs?

a reply to: GuidedKill

If you think you choose who you are attracted to, you're an idiot. One may choose to act on that attraction, but you don't choose the attraction. It just happens.

a reply to: GuidedKill

LMAO. That's your argument? Being gay is a choice because they can not reproduce?
Wow.

a reply to: GuidedKill

Only a male and a female can reproduce is not a known science fact??

No, it's not 'a known science fact'. Ever heard of the whiptail lizard? There's no such thing as a male whiptail.

They are all females, and their reproductive cycle is kick-started by female-on-female mating. Then they lay eggs.

So not only is there an entire species of lesbians, they reproduce via virgin births.

originally posted by: kaylaluv
a reply to: GuidedKill

If you think you choose who you are attracted to, you're an idiot. One may choose to act on that attraction, but you don't choose the attraction. It just happens.

HEY! I have to ASK myself if I'm STRAIGHT or GAY all the time!!!!

That was sarcasm...

originally posted by: Deaf Alien
a reply to: GuidedKill

LMAO. That's your argument? Being gay is a choice because they can not reproduce?
Wow.

Not at all. I'm saying the way humans are made we are supposed to reproduce/mate with the opposite sex....that is just science and human nature. I didn't make it that way.

However there is no science showing that being gay is anatomically or scientifically the correct way for humans to reproduce...

That is the science part....everything else is just conjecture.

originally posted by: audubon
a reply to: GuidedKill

Only a male and a female can reproduce is not a known science fact??

No, it's not 'a known science fact'. Ever heard of the whiptail lizard? There's no such thing as a male whiptail.

They are all females, and their reproductive cycle is kick-started by female-on-female mating. Then they lay eggs.

So not only is there an entire species of lesbians, they reproduce via virgin births.

Are you a lizard?? Were talking about humans....But thanks for the imput..

On another note if you identify as a lizard that's ok...maybe someone will work on assigning you the right restroom or even create a lizard restroom.