New Jersey lists ANTIFA as a Domestic Terrorist Group!

a reply to: strongfp

...CONTINUED...

The 7 Stages of an Extremist Hate Group
Stage 5: Attacking without weapons
– This stage is critical because it differentiates vocally abusive haters from physically abusive ones. In this stage, hate groups become more aggressive, prowling their turf seeking vulnerable targets. Violence coalesces hategroups and further isolates them from mainstream society.

Each successive anger- provoking thought or action builds on residual adrenaline and triggers a more violent response than the one that originally initiated the sequence. Anger builds on anger. The adrenaline high combined with hate becomes a deadly combination.

Stage 6: Attacking with weapons
– Some attackers use firearms to commit hate crimes, but skinheads prefer weapons such as broken bottles, baseball bats, blunt objects,screwdrivers, and belt buckles. These types of weapons require the attacker to be close tothe victim, which further demonstrates the depth of personal anger. Attackers can discharge firearms at a distance, thus precluding personal contact. Close-in onslaughts require the assailants to see their victim eye-to-eye and to become bloodied during the assault. Hands-on violence allows skinheads to express their hate in a way a gun cannot. Personal contact empowers and fulfills a deep-seated need to have dominance over others.

Stage 7: Destroying
– The ultimate goal of haters is to destroy the object of their hate.Mastery over life and death imbues the hater with godlike power and omnipotence,which, in turn, facilitate further acts of violence. With this power comes a great sense of self-worth and value, the very qualities haters lack. However, in reality, hate physically and psychologically destroys both the hater and the hated.
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And last but not least the atrocious nature already well documented, here's a thread that's one year old:[
Social Justice Assault Warriors TV Marathon!

ANTIFA just like any "organic" created group DOES get infiltrated & co-opted by FEDS.

OWS did. Tea Party did. Hells Angels are.

PAID informants, undercovers and SPOOK agitators RIDDLE their ranks.

I wouldn't trust ANY of these groups to truly be WITHOUT influence...

originally posted by: DanteGaland
ANTIFA just like any "organic" created group DOES get infiltrated & co-opted by FEDS.

OWS did. Tea Party did. Hells Angels are.

PAID informants, undercovers and SPOOK agitators RIDDLE their ranks.

I wouldn't trust ANY of these groups to truly be WITHOUT influence...

You are certainly sounding desperate?

Whether they were co opted or not, they promote hate and violence! Show me one of their websites that don't.

and not for nothing? Why are you making excuses instead of not condoning violence?

ugh they JUST realized this SMGDH I'm done....to the backcountry I go and nobody can come with.

a reply to: seeker1963

LEFT or RIGHT ...

They ALL get infiltrated.

Since this is a conspiracy community might we WANT to wonder WHO and what the motives are??

Deny ignorance.

a reply to: DanteGaland

How about you respond to my last post from the bottom of the previous page (that continues on to the top of this page), please.

originally posted by: DanteGaland
a reply to: seeker1963

LEFT or RIGHT ...

They ALL get infiltrated.

Since this is a conspiracy community might we WANT to wonder WHO and what the motives are??

Deny ignorance.

I know what the motives are, do you?

I am not the one making excuses for this type of behavior, you are.

Can anyone explain in a sentence or so what is Antifa? As a Brit I'm sort of curious and don't know what it is?

a reply to: IgnoranceIsntBlisss

WHY?

Everything you spent so much TIME posting also applies to white, christian, conservative, right-wing, alt-right, nationalist racists.

a reply to: seeker1963

AGENDAS are NOT excuses.

a reply to: DanteGaland

WHAT applies to other groups?

You clearly didn't read it.

So much for liberals being the "High Information" group.

originally posted by: DanteGaland
a reply to: seeker1963

AGENDAS are NOT excuses.

So you have an agenda then?

Good to know.

originally posted by: ufoorbhunter
Can anyone explain in a sentence or so what is Antifa? As a Brit I'm sort of curious and don't know what it is?

You must live out in the sticks over there in the UK then, because as a Yank, I have seen ANTIFA on many vids on You tube in your country setting cars on fire and smashing windows of businesses.

i honestly did not know what ANTIFA was until today

a reply to: seeker1963

Yeah I do live out in the semi sticks, but have no idea whatsoever what Antifa is. They smash windows? So they are like anarchists or students?

a reply to: seeker1963

Only watch ufo vids on YT, occasionally

originally posted by: veracity
i honestly did not know what ANTIFA was until today

I'm still working it out, myself.

Apparently they claim to be an anti fascist group, but they appear to just be kids acting out aggression against a society they don't accept as their own.

I guess that's bound to happen when you force them into two decades of schooling that doesn't once cover reality, or balancing a check book... then throw them out into that world with its failing economy and a cost of living higher than what a kid can earn, because their parents shipped the last of the jobs overseas and sold their futures before they were even born to buy a second car.

Although I went through all of that too and I think I turned out alright- if not a wee bit bitter.
Hm.

originally posted by: ufoorbhunter
a reply to: seeker1963

Yeah I do live out in the semi sticks, but have no idea whatsoever what Antifa is. They smash windows? So they are like anarchists or students?

Well, let me put it to you this way, every time there is a violent protest in London and cars are set on fire and windows of businesses are broken and the police are attacked? THAT'S ANTIFA!

a reply to: strongfp


"OK so what about freedom of speech and expression? "

Ha, ha......a Canadian asks that?

originally posted by: jimmyx

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: seeker1963

I don't like ANTIFA. I think they are fascist, Marxist, and basically moronic to a degree unseen for decades. They are the antithesis of freedom, free expression.

That being said, I don't like any government agency labeling groups.

I don't think it serves any other purpose other than denying free expression even to groups that abhor free expression.

We saw enough of that during the Obama era when anyone who was for lower taxes, smaller government, was labeled as "anti-American".

really?....who were these people that labeled others as anti-American if they wanted lower taxes, etc.....was it 20 people?, 100 people?, entire groups?......or some joe blow down the street, or some wack-job on a blog, that you happened to read or hear?....out of a population of 320,000,000, there are going to being nutjobs all along the political spectrum....cherry-picking is easy, detailed analysis and discussion is of course boring, but critical to reasoned thought.

Nothing he said is based on reality outside of a handful of individuals that he ignores the Left's dismissal of.

A few far left groups including antifa Berkeley have engaged in violence and property destruction. Other antifa groups have done absolutely nothing wrong. Labeling antifa as a domestic terror group is wrong and dangerous.