New Jersey lists ANTIFA as a Domestic Terrorist Group!

Great job New Jersey! About time someone has the ballz to call them what they are!

DOTGOV LINK

a reply to: seeker1963

About damn time.

Hopefully, BLM will be added to that list shortly.

If you see a listed terrorist organization rallying, are you allowed to shoot at them?

If so, this could get interesting really quickly.

Sweet does that mean they are KOS now?

New Jersey was the first!

F em. Their message isnt even about a tyrannical government model. Its purely about ideology and persecuting their fellow citizens for not thinking like they do.

originally posted by: lordcomac
If you see a listed terrorist organization rallying, are you allowed to shoot at them?

If so, this could get interesting really quickly.

At least in the NJ it certainly lifts the restraints from LEO's on how they treat them I would imagine? I am not advocating at this point for private citizens to go out on head hunts for them unless of course they are attacked and feel that their life is in danger?

a reply to: seeker1963

Now they need to go after Soros for funding them.


a reply to: seeker1963
Not really... They still have full legal protection.

a reply to: seeker1963

I gotta say, their choice of attire is terrible, doesn't help their identity at all. I know they wanted to look like cool rebel freedom fighters, but they instead look like a bunch of terrorists.

Oh wait..

a reply to: seeker1963

OK so what about freedom of speech and expression?

a reply to: seeker1963

I don't like ANTIFA. I think they are fascist, Marxist, and basically moronic to a degree unseen for decades. They are the antithesis of freedom, free expression.

That being said, I don't like any government agency labeling groups.

I don't think it serves any other purpose other than denying free expression even to groups that abhor free expression.

We saw enough of that during the Obama era when anyone who was for lower taxes, smaller government, was labeled as "anti-American".

originally posted by: Xcathdra
a reply to: seeker1963

Now they need to go after Soros for funding them.


a reply to: seeker1963
Not really... They still have full legal protection.

I was referring to all the incidents we have witnessed on the police standing down while watching ANTIFA assaulting others and destroying property. Of course the still have full legal protection by law.

As far as Soros? Yea, you would think that would be the next logical step. Go after who is funding them.

originally posted by: strongfp
a reply to: seeker1963

OK so what about freedom of speech and expression?

Freedom of speech doesn't include violence and destruction does it?

originally posted by: seeker1963

originally posted by: strongfp
a reply to: seeker1963

OK so what about freedom of speech and expression?

Freedom of speech doesn't include violence and destruction does it?

Then I guess start calling ALL protesters terrorists. Because they have the potential to do harm as well.

originally posted by: strongfp
a reply to: seeker1963

OK so what about freedom of speech and expression?

They are allowed to make all the signs they want with their message written on them.
But they are not allowed to hit people with their signs.

originally posted by: strongfp

originally posted by: seeker1963

originally posted by: strongfp
a reply to: seeker1963

OK so what about freedom of speech and expression?

Freedom of speech doesn't include violence and destruction does it?

Then I guess start calling ALL protesters terrorists. Because they have the potential to do harm as well.

I am not talking about "Potential" and you damn well know it!

originally posted by: strongfp
a reply to: seeker1963

OK so what about freedom of speech and expression?

They are free to preach all day about their domestic terrorism. They just have to deal with more consequences now, though.
Good times.

It does place a spectre of doubt int he minds of those that support them monetarily. It puts them now into the crosshairs for IRS investigation, indictment, and potential forfeiture of money for funding a known terrorist group. In addition, it will prevent them from getting a permit to protest, so if seen protesting, it is an immediate arrest situation, no questions asked.

I say, anyone showing up with their face covered is an ANTIFA supporter and should be taken in, booked, and fined heavily. With the funds drying up, it will have a very chilling affect on the organization.

originally posted by: strongfp

originally posted by: seeker1963

originally posted by: strongfp
a reply to: seeker1963

OK so what about freedom of speech and expression?

Freedom of speech doesn't include violence and destruction does it?

Then I guess start calling ALL protesters terrorists. Because they have the potential to do harm as well.

Yes ALL protesters that resort to violence and intimidation are domestic terrorists.

originally posted by: Bluntone22

originally posted by: strongfp
a reply to: seeker1963

OK so what about freedom of speech and expression?

They are allowed to make all the signs they want with their message written on them.
But they are not allowed to hit people with their signs.

Then arrest those people based on their individual actions. Not the groups actions.