Space - We Have Been Lied To - The ISS Is NOT In Orbit

We are being lied to about the nature of our reality...

Please press pause on your immediate knee-jerk reactions. Take a moment and suspend your belief and hear me out. I have been extremely interested in space and the greater universe for most of my life. As a child, I dreamed of becoming an astronaut. My will (that I need to write) was going to include instructions to send my cremated remains into orbit. I have also had a massive interest in the conspiracy world my entire life. I have been reading ATS daily since the beginning. I have never trusted the "authorities", but for me, NASA was different. I never questioned what they were doing, and what they have claimed to have accomplished in the past, except for the clearly hoaxed moon missions. This video, in my opinion, is the meatiest piece of evidence against the moon hoax, but please save the moon conversation for another thread:
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The ISS has been a topic/target for conspiracy minded people for years. The romantic vision of adventure and human accomplishment often blinds even the most critical of thinkers to the truth. Imagining people exploring and living in space is incredible! Peering into the night sky, and imagining life on another planet is something I have done on many occasions.

Recently, I have been focusing my research/entertainment efforts onto NASA. I believe, after many, many hours of research, that the ISS is 100% a hoax and fraud. I do not know why they fake it, but I am convinced that it is fake. First off, I am sure many of you that are skeptical are going to say something like "but we can SEE the ISS flying over the earth!!"

Fair point, however I do not think the object we are seeing is the actual ISS in space. Go outside, and follow a passenger jet through the sky. It will look absolutely TINY, nothing more than a speck in the sky (at cruising altitude) which is around 7.5 miles:


Take a look at these two size comparison charts. The ISS is larger than a passenger jet, but not by much. The ISS is said to be orbiting the earth at 249 miles, which is 33 times the height of a jumbo jet!



Should we be able to see something that is 33 times higher than a jumbo jet that is roughly the size of a football field? I know this isn't a very scientific anecdote , but it is definitely something worth pondering.

So if what we are seeing in the sky isn't the ISS, what could it be? I don't know for sure, but my guess would be a solar powered drone or balloon of some type, that already exist and are in regular use.Google Drone? Facebook Drone?

Another thing to consider, is how the fragile ISS has been able to stay in orbit for so long without EVER getting hit by a single asteroid, rock, piece of space junk, or other foreign objects flying through space. It is uncanny how it has been able to go unscathed, even though it is so fragile that the astro-nots have to exercise on shock absorbing rigs to prevent them from being knocked out of orbit.Moon Rocks, luckily they all missed Neil Armstrong and Buzz too!




And now, for the main reason I am writing this post, how NASA fakes the ISS. In this video, the author breaks down the technology being used to perpetrate the fraud of living in space. There is literally endless footage of NASA making mistakes, and showing their hand. I think that they must believe that we are all too stupid to start piecing it all together, because there are countless instances of these "space mistakes", where even the common observer would see something isn't quite right.

How does NASA pull it off? Augmented Virtual Reality Technology
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Before you shut this video down, do keep in mind that governments are usually DECADES ahead of technology that is publicly available. Remember when the stealth bomber was just a UFO?

Why do governments fake space? Why do they work so hard to prop up the hoax of the ISS? Why do they spend ludicrous amounts of money developing the equivalent of "movie magic" ? Are they hiding something? Are they trying to keep us from a much larger truth? Do the elites know the true nature of our reality?

I don't know, but these are all interesting topics to entertain.

So they let SpaceX join the hoax club along with the Russians.

originally posted by: Winstonian
Why do governments fake space? Why do they work so hard to prop up the hoax of the ISS? Why do they spend ludicrous amounts of money developing the equivalent of "movie magic" ? Are they hiding something? Are they trying to keep us from a much larger truth? Do the elites know the true nature of our reality?

I don't know, but these are all interesting topics to entertain.

Why do tin-foilers try so hard to state everything is a hoax?
Why do you spend so much of what could be useful brain power convincing yourself that everything is fake and portrayed by the evil IllumiNSAMasons?


My questions are just as valid as yours.

Why can we see it?

It reflects sunlight... cant see it during the day, nor if its in the earths shadow..

Geez..

a reply to: Winstonian

Actually, no, nothing you said is worth wondering. T's not just "not very scientific," but it's not scientific at all. It's about as scientific as me suggesting the wind is a sign of mass hysteria since we can't see it. I mean, who started the air moving anyway?? Now that's something worth thinking about, right?

Hi,been reading here for a while now but just made an account to add to this. I'm pretty sure the ISS is real and in orbit. I'm an amature astromomer/astrophotographer and member of some a strong forums for many years now. There are hundreds of images of ppl capturing the ISS transiting the moon/Sun all by amatures.

Have a look here stargazerslounge.com/topic/294588-iss-moon-transit-june-4th-2017/#comment-3225098

If you will just search ISS there you will find many more great captures. I highly doubt all the people are in on this hoax.

Edit: not sure how to make working links. May have to copy and paste into browser. Sorry.

a reply to: bender151

Did you watch the video, or are you too intelligent for alternative points of view and think you know everything?

Quite the closed minded attitude. Why are you on a website like this if you are not willing to openly question what you have been trained to believe in government sponsored "schools"?

a reply to: Winstonian

a reply to: Winstonian

You can see tiny satellites in space at night, so I'd imagine the ISS which about 30 times the size of an average satellite would be visible.

As for the CGI/Virtual reality, I'm not an expert when it comes to such things so I have absolutely no idea whether it's real or fake but neither would surprise me

originally posted by: Keener7
Hi,been reading here for a while now but just made an account to add to this. I'm pretty sure the ISS is real and in orbit. I'm an amature astromomer/astrophotographer and member of some a strong forums for many years now. There are hundreds of images of ppl capturing the ISS transiting the moon/Sun all by amatures.

Have a look here LINK

If you will just search ISS there you will find many more great captures. I highly doubt all the people are in on this hoax.

Edit: not sure how to make working links. May have to copy and paste into browser. Sorry.

Fixed the link for you.

To add a link, press the center button above the editing area (looks like a square with arrow shooting out to top -right). First dialog, enter the word you want highlighted to click on for the link, second dialog enter the full link address.

a reply to: Keener7

Welcome Keener, hope you enjoy the site more now that you are a member.
Hope you will share some good pics and any cool stories you might have with us.

originally posted by: Winstonian

Should we be able to see something that is 33 times higher than a jumbo jet that is roughly the size of a football field? I know this isn't a very scientific anecdote , but it is definitely something worth pondering.

Yes -- for the same reason the reflected sunlight in a small mirror or window could be seen from miles away.

Dude. We see the ISS for the same reasons we see everything in our solar system. Reflected sunlight.

This is basic stuff.

On top of that, one can see dozens of satellites passing overhead on any night. Are they also all fake?

Dude. We see the ISS for the same reasons we see everything in our solar system. Reflected sunlight.

This is basic stuff.

On top of that, one can see dozens of satellites passing overhead on any night. Are they also all fake?

a reply to: Keener7

I agree there is something up there, I just don't think that it is manned. If it is manned, the footage we are given by NASA is not the actual footage from inside the ISS, as it is clearly faked. If you watch the last video I posted, there are several instances that truly have no other viable explanation.

originally posted by: Winstonian
a reply to: bender151

Did you watch the video, or are you too intelligent for alternative points of view and think you know everything?

Quite the closed minded attitude. Why are you on a website like this if you are not willing to openly question what you have been trained to believe in government sponsored "schools"?

Knowimg the reason we would easily see a huge shiny metal object that is reflecting direct sunlight is a very low benchmark to base your opinion of us close minded " know it alls"

The real mystery is how did this get 13 flags?

originally posted by: AdmireTheDistance
The real mystery is how did this get 13 flags?

People give flags and stars for threads that has literally zero content because the poster pressed Enter too soon and resulted in that warning message appearing as the OP, so why are you really surprised ?

At least this thread actually has content to discuss

a reply to: Winstonian

Why?

Why fake it?

Why would quite a few countries also be willing to be in on a fake ISS (it's called "International" for a reason).

How do you keep the very large number of people involved in the ISS quiet if it's fake? Don't even think of using the "we'll kill your family" route, because not everyone is going to have a family that can be threatened.

So was the USSR's Soyuz program all fake too? And of course the USA just played along with the USSR??

So China has put people into orbit and are also trying to do their own station......I take it that's going to be fake too? And all the other countries are going to go along with that?

Why?

ETA: Oh yah...so was Skylab fake too?

a reply to: Winstonian

Who knows really, maybe it's not manned I wouldn't be shocked it it turned out to be the case. But like you said earlier, why? What would be the whole purpose or benefit to put so much time and resources into some elaborate hoax that has no clear purposes?

And thanks to those who welcomed me and helped with links.