Why we should all vote for Jeremy Corybn

originally posted by: SudoNim

originally posted by: crazyewok

originally posted by: Soloprotocol

originally posted by: crazyewok

originally posted by: Soloprotocol

originally posted by: crazyewok
My vote is offically done (via post), Tracy Crouch conservative. No going back now

Clown.

For what?

She has been helping mealot with some issues and has a reputation in the community for being honest and doing her best for those in need.

I did not vote for the "party" but tor her, and so will a lot of people in the area. She would of got my vote if labour or libdem.

The only "clown" is the labour MP who lost his seat in 2010who did # all except kiss blairs arse.

Well enjoy your privatised NHS, Your foodbanks, your failing sercurity services, your human rights violations, your lower standard of living, your working till you drop. your zero hours contracts, your lower rate pensions, your paying for the well off, your queen, your bank bail outs, your country, your £200 billion WMD's, your # rail service, your funding of terror groups like ISIS under the guise of "Moderate rebels", your illegal bombing campaigns in the middle east...i could go on all night. Only a working class clown would vote for these things by voting Tory.

3) I dont see a problem with food banks, long as people are fed i dont care how they get the food. Sure they have to eat what they are given but beggers can not be choosers.

So nurses to you are considered "beggers"?

If you are referring to the Nurse on question time who said she used foodbanks that one has been pretty much debunked. She was a BBC plant there to ambush Nicola sturgeon. She is so poor she privately schools her daughter at the cost of £11,000 a year whilst stabling her horse whilst enjoying lavish holidays in New york 5 star hotels. All of which she bragged about on social media.
3 times in the past 3 weeks the BBC have been caught using plants, From the fake foodbank nurse to the young wealthy toff attacking Corbyn's plans to end zero hours contracts because he could starve but in between starving found the time to post pics of himself on social media top hat and tails at ascot and skiing at Courchevel and Klosters, to the small business owner who said he couldn't afford the minimum wage whilst earning £900k a year from his various businesses.

Foodbanks are for people on zero income and you need to be referred to one. Police officers and Nurses dont qualify and if they did use one then shame on them for stealing food from the poor.

a reply to: Soloprotocol

I was referring the Royal College of Nurses statement that "growing numbers of nursing staff using food banks, taking on additional jobs and accruing personal debt" and not an individual case.

a reply to: Scouse100

Just a FYI.
I voted this morning after all. Labour.

originally posted by: SudoNim
a reply to: Soloprotocol

I was referring the Royal College of Nurses statement that "growing numbers of nursing staff using food banks, taking on additional jobs and accruing personal debt" and not an individual case.

Apologies..
The starting rate for a nurse is £21k. Nothing new in people doing two jobs. I once worked with a couple of guys who would work 7 days a week earning good money then jump into a taxi at night. Why,? because they were up to their eyeballs in debt.

Some people live way beyond their means. Everyone at some point accrues personal debt, Foodbanks are not there for people who choose to get into debt, they are there for the poorest in society. People with zero income for whatever reason.

originally posted by: SudoNim

originally posted by: crazyewok

originally posted by: Soloprotocol

originally posted by: crazyewok

originally posted by: Soloprotocol

originally posted by: crazyewok
My vote is offically done (via post), Tracy Crouch conservative. No going back now

Clown.

For what?

She has been helping mealot with some issues and has a reputation in the community for being honest and doing her best for those in need.

I did not vote for the "party" but tor her, and so will a lot of people in the area. She would of got my vote if labour or libdem.

The only "clown" is the labour MP who lost his seat in 2010who did # all except kiss blairs arse.

Well enjoy your privatised NHS, Your foodbanks, your failing sercurity services, your human rights violations, your lower standard of living, your working till you drop. your zero hours contracts, your lower rate pensions, your paying for the well off, your queen, your bank bail outs, your country, your £200 billion WMD's, your # rail service, your funding of terror groups like ISIS under the guise of "Moderate rebels", your illegal bombing campaigns in the middle east...i could go on all night. Only a working class clown would vote for these things by voting Tory.

3) I dont see a problem with food banks, long as people are fed i dont care how they get the food. Sure they have to eat what they are given but beggers can not be choosers.

So nurses to you are considered "beggers"?

From your soundbytes you are coming off as the typical uneducated Daily Mail reader, spouting the same rehashed nonsense.
Maybe try doing some individual research on the matters, actually listen to a full Theresa May interview. She is much more a bumbling fool than the media would want you to believe.

If a nurse is having to use food banks she is obviously # at financial planning or has a problem like gambling.

My first job started me off at less than what a trainee nurse earns and I survived.



Anyway I am not voting for may, that whats the people of her constuancy can decide.
I am voting for my lical MP who is helping me with a problem at the moment and I cant afford a regime change .

a reply to: crazyewok

Nice of you to judge the reasons why someone would feel the need to use a foodbank.

She must be # at something or addicted to something... it must be lovely to judge people from up high.

originally posted by: Flavian
a reply to: bastion

The thing is the IFS says the Labour manifesto can't be funded and that it is pie in the sky thinking. They have actually completely gone to town on the Labour manifesto which is almost unprecedented this close to election day, warning that it would bankrupt the nation and ruin the economy for decades to come. They actually say it has no basis at all in reality.

In fairness they also identify black holes of a few billion in the Tory manifesto.

Corbyn is promising the world with absolutely no way of delivering on it - which makes campaign pledges the easiest thing in the world.

Not sure where you heard that but it's a lie. The key thing to remember is the IFS is a Tory funded thinktank and even they said Labour would eliminate it with £21bn to spare while the conservatives would cause the biggest harm to the economy in recorded history with the lowest possibilities of growth/recovery on record in the reports conclusion.

They said it would eliminate the deficit with at least £21bn spare and praised it for it's realism as the IFS share most of the same views and the Conservative claims Labour couldn't deliver this were lies cooked up by Hammond who ignored all aspects of raised revenue to arrive at his ludicrous claim.

The IFS study ignored £11bn of Labour costings, then removed another £9Bn based on no calculations just a guess that some companies may not pay it (certainly true but it's called 'lying with numbers' in Mathematics and praised them for the extra £250bn to public spending which would return it to pre Thatcher era and was both achievable and without negative imapacts as long as the boosts in investment and research were given to the best candidates.

Their conclusion was the Labour policies would eliminate the defecit with £21bn to spare per anum and commended it for sharing many of thier policies. Though they did attack them for wanting workers rights, a minimum wage in line with the debt,

There wasn't much scrutiny of the Tory plans, mainly because they have no plans or costings to question apart from them breaking the law by failing to eliminate the defecit by 2015 - though their tax policy was labelled 'vague and devoid of attempt to qualify', would introduce the biggest cuts to the public sector for 20 years which will further the crisis of recruitment and retention, which is universally recognised as the biggest long term threat to the UK economy, would cut £50bn to the poorest and had no evidence it would reduce the defecit as austerity has increased the defecit by 80%, debt has risen to the highest levels per capita for 57 years and caused the highest levels of risk and uncertainty to the econmy for at least 60 years resulting in the lowest prospects of growth recovery on record.

See full report and graphs here: www.ifs.org.uk...

originally posted by: SudoNim
a reply to: crazyewok

Nice of you to judge the reasons why someone would feel the need to use a foodbank.

She must be # at something or addicted to something... it must be lovely to judge people from up high.

If you cant live witnin your means on £21k there is something wrong with the person.

I 100% think nurses should be paid more, but they are not on poverty wages.

originally posted by: crazyewok

originally posted by: SudoNim
a reply to: crazyewok

Nice of you to judge the reasons why someone would feel the need to use a foodbank.

She must be # at something or addicted to something... it must be lovely to judge people from up high.

If you cant live witnin your means on £21k there is something wrong with the person.

I 100% think nurses should be paid more, but they are not on poverty wages.

There is zero evidence of any Nurses or Police officers using foodbanks. Trussel Trust have already said they have no records of Nurses or police using them. It's made up bull#. And if they are using foodbanks they should be charged with theft. There are rules in place on who qualifies and Police officers and Nurses dont fall into the bracket of little to zero income.

The foodbank nurse on question time was a plant. She never got to ask her question at one show in London and was invited back to ambush Nicola Sturgeon the following week in what was supposed to be a leaders debate. The BBC should be shut down. They are lying to the public and have been caught lying to the public over and over again.

Question time for idiots rule number 1, Dont claim something that can be disproved by looking at your social media pages and or Companies house.

One reason im not voting tory is because I have had to suffer a pay freeze since they have been in power and I am already the lowest paid government employee

I earn £18,561 a year before tax , and its took me 10+ years to increase my salary from the starting £14,680 which was way back in 2006, the tories still plan to cut our budget and stop pay rises again for everyone in my work and also other public sectors you all know of , schools, hospitals and emergency services. (#ing bin men currently earn more than me! )

So I have suffered incredibly at the hands of the tory government

SO # THE LOT OF THEM AND ANY "#" WHO VOTES FOR THEM

nothing personal

originally posted by: crazyewok

Anyway I am not voting for may, that whats the people of her constuancy can decide.
I am voting for my lical MP who is helping me with a problem at the moment and I cant afford a regime change .

Am I right in thinking you're a teacher? If so you've just voted yourself out a job and career (unless your constituent is voting against the £3bn school cuts).

Personally could never vote Tory as I'm disabled and will die if they remain in power as despite being in violation of UN law by causing the deaths of over 100,000 disabled with their savage cuts, the tory disability minister is calling for even more cuts and for medical evidence by qualified doctors to be banned from disability assesments as they've failed to reach their target of denying 80% of disabled people a penny to live on. Today recieved a letter from the DWP that the letters they sent to everyone on ESA announcing a increase of £10 a month a few days after the election was announced has magically been withdrawn today with them claiming it was a typo and what they meant was they're capping disability benefits to £10 for all of December. The cynic in me would tend to think it was all a lie to try and con the sick and disabled to vote for their own deaths and seeing how spectacularly it backfired they're now making sure we won't have food or a home for Christmas.

That and they falsely imprisoned my Uncle for several years and shredded 10 years of documents of him working for MI5, MI6 and CIA exposing arms deals when the Tories were caught illegally selling Saddam his Supergunand once their illegal cover up was exposed in court and Parliament they murdered two of my aunties and finally murdered my uncle three years ago but the Foreign Office calls for him to be assasinated in 1990 to ensure he couldn't reveal MI5, MI6 and CIA sold him the weapons so they could start a war:

"If Ordtech ends up in court [Mr Grecian] may be persuaded to keep quiet about his connections with [Special Branch] and yourselves but there is an obvious risk he will try the 'working for British intelligence' ploy."

The official added: "his personal future might be in some doubt if he was ever publicly identified as the man who blew the [whistle] on the Iraqi Babylon project. If we were not too squeamish, we might use this point to ensure silence."

When you find out the Tory party ordered the murder of half your family before reaching primary school age, it has a pretty profound effect - only one who I have any respect for is Ken Clarke for having the balls and morals to stand up in Parliament and admit the government iillegally witheld evidene from court, falsely imprisoned them and killed them and held a whitewash Scott Inquiry that demanded Michael Howard and Heseltine couldn't even be sacked deespite being the people who wrote to Special Branch ordering the murders.

originally posted by: Soloprotocol

originally posted by: crazyewok

originally posted by: SudoNim
a reply to: crazyewok

Nice of you to judge the reasons why someone would feel the need to use a foodbank.

She must be # at something or addicted to something... it must be lovely to judge people from up high.

If you cant live witnin your means on £21k there is something wrong with the person.

I 100% think nurses should be paid more, but they are not on poverty wages.

There is zero evidence of any Nurses or Police officers using foodbanks.

Except the evidence posted previously.

originally posted by: SudoNim

originally posted by: Soloprotocol

originally posted by: crazyewok

originally posted by: SudoNim
a reply to: crazyewok

Nice of you to judge the reasons why someone would feel the need to use a foodbank.

She must be # at something or addicted to something... it must be lovely to judge people from up high.

If you cant live witnin your means on £21k there is something wrong with the person.

I 100% think nurses should be paid more, but they are not on poverty wages.

There is zero evidence of any Nurses or Police officers using foodbanks.

Except the evidence posted previously.

Prove it.

originally posted by: bastion

originally posted by: crazyewok

Anyway I am not voting for may, that whats the people of her constuancy can decide.
I am voting for my lical MP who is helping me with a problem at the moment and I cant afford a regime change .

Am I right in thinking you're a teacher? If so you've just voted yourself out a job and career (unless your constituent is voting against the £3bn school cuts).

I am a science teacher.

No way have I voted myself out of a job as there is a crisis in Science teacher recruitment. Last school I worked at had only 3 qualified science teachers when they needed 10.

Anyway I dont actually need to work, I have enough money to retire at 30. I work as as a teacher because I want too.

a reply to: sapien82

What is your job? Have you considered a career change - the current one doesn't seem to be working out for you.

Or you can have a pity party about how the Tories crapped in your slippers.

originally posted by: bastion

originally posted by: crazyewok

Anyway I am not voting for may, that whats the people of her constuancy can decide.
I am voting for my lical MP who is helping me with a problem at the moment and I cant afford a regime change .

Am I right in thinking you're a teacher? If so you've just voted yourself out a job and career (unless your constituent is voting against the £3bn school cuts).

Tories and Labour just got together up here in North Lanarkshire council and sacked all Teaching assistants making teachers jobs a lot harder. Not to fussed about the teachers who are paid well considering they only work 40 weeks of the year, but it's the children who will suffer in the long run.

originally posted by: crazyewok

originally posted by: bastion

originally posted by: crazyewok

Anyway I am not voting for may, that whats the people of her constuancy can decide.
I am voting for my lical MP who is helping me with a problem at the moment and I cant afford a regime change .

Am I right in thinking you're a teacher? If so you've just voted yourself out a job and career (unless your constituent is voting against the £3bn school cuts).

I am a science teacher.

No way have I voted myself out of a job as there is a crisis in Science teacher recruitment. Last school I worked at had only 3 qualified science teachers when they needed 10.

Anyway I dont actually need to work, I have enough money to retire at 30. I work as as a teacher because I want too.

Ahh in that case I appologise for jumping the gun, as an ex STEM tutor myself, the Tory's policies to increase STEM funding, teaching and quality of education are a good policy.

originally posted by: Soloprotocol

originally posted by: SudoNim

originally posted by: Soloprotocol

originally posted by: crazyewok

originally posted by: SudoNim
a reply to: crazyewok

Nice of you to judge the reasons why someone would feel the need to use a foodbank.

She must be # at something or addicted to something... it must be lovely to judge people from up high.

If you cant live witnin your means on £21k there is something wrong with the person.

I 100% think nurses should be paid more, but they are not on poverty wages.

There is zero evidence of any Nurses or Police officers using foodbanks.

Except the evidence posted previously.

Prove it.

Are you wanting proof of nurses using foodbanks? Or evidence of it? Or proof of evidence?

I think you are confusing yourself.

originally posted by: SudoNim

originally posted by: Soloprotocol

originally posted by: SudoNim

originally posted by: Soloprotocol

originally posted by: crazyewok

originally posted by: SudoNim
a reply to: crazyewok

Nice of you to judge the reasons why someone would feel the need to use a foodbank.

She must be # at something or addicted to something... it must be lovely to judge people from up high.

If you cant live witnin your means on £21k there is something wrong with the person.

I 100% think nurses should be paid more, but they are not on poverty wages.

There is zero evidence of any Nurses or Police officers using foodbanks.

Except the evidence posted previously.

Prove it.

Are you wanting proof of nurses using foodbanks? Or evidence of it? Or proof of evidence?

I think you are confusing yourself.

I dont need to pove anything. As i said The Trussel Trust have already debunked it. In order to use a foodbank you need to be referred by either the DWP, Citizens advice or social services. Anyone working using a foodbank has lied to whoever they got the referral from and are nothing more than thieves.

Prove that one nurse or police officer has ever used a foodbank. It's a myth, And i find it abhorant that anyone would say they used a foodbank just to try and get themselves a wage rise.

A local foodbank up here had a referral for a woman who had zero income because of a benefits sanction. The foodbank was closed over the bank holiday from Thursday to Tuesday, The woman in question chose to feed her kids instead of herself and had not eaten a thing since the Thursday. She was stood eating beans from a can with her bare hands in the bloody foodbank she was so hungry. The staff were in tears.

This is Tory Britain for you. How anyone can vote for those scummy bastards i'll never know.

a reply to: Soloprotocol
This is Tory Britain for you. How anyone can vote for those scummy bastards i'll never know.

strong stable leadership lol, hard dealing with eu for brexit, kick them out after we've got that deal but i dont trust jezza to be strong in striking the best deal.