Baddogma's Other Meta Cafe- Polite Discussions About Scientific Mysticism and General Weirdness

a reply to: TEOTWAWKIAIFF

You really do have a weird relationship with that magazine.

I just fell asleep yesterday. With clothes on and everything. Not my birthday anymore.

To me bs is at first the bull thing. Belief system falls for me under bias. I like that word so to me it's not a negative term. More something unavoidable.

a reply to: Peeple

I'll be back

a reply to: Reverbs

I sure hope so.

originally posted by: Peeple
a reply to: TEOTWAWKIAIFF

You really do have a weird relationship with that magazine.

I just fell asleep yesterday. With clothes on and everything. Not my birthday anymore.

To me bs is at first the bull thing. Belief system falls for me under bias. I like that word so to me it's not a negative term. More something unavoidable.

Why did Reverbs really get so quiet?

I think that because of even more weirdnesses I'm back to square one. Isn't it all just in my head in the end? The part of me that is logical can't see the magic side and the magic side can't see logic. Where I am one the other isnt.

It feels like it's just one or the other sides of my brain like that woman who had a stroke and became everything (TED Talk) .. her logic side shut off.
These, "crazy people" (schizophrenia , psychosis) I meet keep being psychic. I dont know if you can separate the two...

Did I lose it myself at one point? I'll never know for sure lol and the psychic was still real either way.

How does one make sense of something when the sense making one stops the process from happenning. It reminds me of the uncertainty principle in quantum physics.

Logic and magic are like oil in water because they are inherently incompatible? Or because I'm Looney tunes and logic makes magic disappear as it was never there to begin with..

To me it feels like the room is full in the dark but you can't get much out if it save a fragile perception, but when you turn on the light the room vanishes altogether.

So do I even trust anything I used to write at this point? Only if the room is really there? But maybe it's not?

Belief systems and bull #s aside, do we know anything at all?

And yet these crazies haunt me knowing things they can't know non locally through time and space. Ghostly impressions they pick up in the dark without shining the light of consciousness on yet still they get the message in between giggling to the "others" they talk to.

Ok I'm off to work here soon.
Have a great day or night errbody!

a reply to: Reverbs

What I do know is that it really happened/happens. I know that from experience. But it's useless because it doesn't really prove anything or give a hint towards what it is.

a reply to: Peeple

That's exactly what I mean. I think figuring that out is one of the Keys in figuring out reality as a whole. Pun intended.

We name things to I'd them. That's a ghost. Thats a box. That's a wave.

But at the base is something that cannot be named. Even calling it "something" goes too far..

It's the sound of one hand clapping.

The answer seems like it might just hit me any moment. The answer just won't quite be a particle or a wave. Where do the two intersect?

I has the WiFi password at work now

My dishwasher is basically Bruce lee.. I feel like I'm in a movie.. literally feel like I'm in a movie.. he's playing "living in america." Talking about beer and barbecue hahaha..

It's too much cliche for my brain.

a reply to: Reverbs

I don't know but I firmly believe there is a lot more to it. That it in order to keep the veil up really only was showing us what smoke and mirrors it has.
What happened to the control loop, to the trickster and such?
That's another frustrating aspect, if you get some woo, you can never be sure if it was what you think it was. We need more, right?
And than we probably would discover "it" is many different things.

Hope you don't get in trouble. But it's so wonderful you are here!

a reply to: Peeple

Get in trouble? There is no one above us as far as the kitchen goes.. were about to go for some herbal refreshment.

I can't focus I'm laughing so hard I'm crying.. Bruce Lee's too damn funny. My life is a movie now called "the three fighters." Apparently.

I have no serious bones in my body right now haha.

This is way too much..

I'm one of the three fighters... "the others they don't understand"

Wth...

Something tells me that behind the trickster is the nothing, and yet somehow nothing is more than anything all together..

What if at the very bottom it's just you there..

a reply to: Reverbs

I read about the Min Min lights. There is no way of telling how big the glowing lights were. Especially in the dark.
You saw a BT, not?
TEOT had three guys in his place.
It can manipulate the Internet.
The stories where it interfered with military actions.
Making synchronicities. (I think there should be some further categories, strong, mild, internet, ...)
What you are saying is hallucinations? All of it?
I had someone with me who saw the same thing.
And I believe I have witnesses for what else happened to me. I can't really ask a single one of them but they are at least three.

But that's exactly the point. Prayers won't work for us. How can we figure out what/who is responsible for everything that's going on here?
I mean catholic are on board, God created everything, so we know since the first "religious intervention" there are other beings visiting us. Angels. But it's okay god created them too.
My only question is why do they have a body?
I Really do believe there is a lot of evidence that stuff is going on for thousand of years.
My question is, how can I prove that to a bunch of selfish entitled plants in human bodies?

a reply to: Reverbs

Also wth indeed, did you just call me bottom?

And even if those all are holographic projections: what for?

Though I guess if it's from hallucinations I would say from what? Seems pretty epidemic.

a reply to: Peeple

"Bottom"? Now that is trickster language of the MetaCafé right there!!

Peeple, TEOT, and Reverbs... yet another three! Just like the Stooges!! "Not a serious bone in my body"... I hear you Reverbs!

Ah, the mystery of 3. Three is a magic number! Faith, hope, and charity. Mind, body, and spirit. Id(ea), Ego(centric), Superego(man, woman, boy, girl). Pythagorean's theorem: The sum of the square roots of any two sides of an isosceles triangle is equal to the square root of the remaining side! Life, death, afterlife. Real world, unreal world, sprit world. Legislative, judicial, and executive.

Andy, Stewart, Sting. Geddy, Alex, and Neil!!

You cannot raise a tee-pee with only 2 poles!!

I guess what I am trying to say is that is nice to see you all here!!

Let's see what kind of h3ll we can raise!!

Booyah!!!

a reply to: TEOTWAWKIAIFF

That's my question, can we raise anything? Because we only know what it lets us see. It doesn't exactly grant wishes and obey orders.
Not that it matters that much, because I really think it's playing with us for thousands of years. If it would want to kill all of us it's doing a horrible job.
That leads us also to the possibility there is a zoo of to us currently invisible beings around us. Maybe we should start to make more differentiation instead of less? Between ghost, NDE & alike and the UFO, greys, etc.
Maybe they got nothing to do with eachother.
There's also most definitely a group of humans who observe this kind of "contact event" as I had it.
Rituals, prayers all the classic ways won't work for me. We have to convince it that it wants to tell us wtf is going on. Who it is.
That's maybe the revelation. Surprise we are really interdimensional beings and don't know more about god than you do.
They all said they'll be back, the big mythical kings and heroes.
But is there something we can do to make it do anything?

...
Not like I am not trying. I am probably the one person who really wants to know this and nothing else. Can I make it invite me to its place? Have a chat in the olymp.
I really do believe a lot of the alien contact has found its way into religious stories.
I still do believe if you hear voices that's not it and you got problems.
Basically all remote viewers, clairvoyants and so on are frauds. But there is already a layer of communication at work that sometimes gets enhanced. But that could be artificial.


But nothing changes the fact as long as it doesn't give us disclosure all they could tell us is "intelligence". And that really doesn't do anything.

a reply to: Peeple

Here is on of the big problems between us and The Other: We do not understand how they think.

It is the same as the story of the guy who fell asleep and dreamt he was a butterfly and when he woke was not sure if he was a butterfly dreaming he was a man. It is epistemological in nature. What we know and what we don't; what we have language to express what we know and how to explain, versus what we do not even have words for, let alone communicate with, something beyond our comprehension and our language capability.

The deep down limbic system in humans may be preventing a meaningful discourse with The Other. It boils down to the base nature of humans: fight or flight. We may be too primitive to be of consideration because our physiology!

Which is why the stories of monks that can control those systems in the brain is important. We need to be able to tap into that and instead of being on autopilot then use the whole brain to our advantage. I feel that the whole "third eye" is just the first step towards doing just that. Look how it freaks people out when that happens spontaneously or is forced upon an unsuspecting person (ala, MK-Ultra).

Some dude in a robe said, "Know thyself", which is the Western version of, "Be here, now." Jesus, Buddha, and Socrates (look! Another 3!), all have something to point out to us so we learn on our own.

Oh, I know that "BS" means the other thing! It is funny that there are multiple meanings. Reading in from those different meanings is all I was trying to point out because it made me laugh.

a reply to: TEOTWAWKIAIFF

That's true, we don't know what they think. We actually don't even know if it is real.

The good thing about our language is, if there isn't a word for it we make one.

I think if they ever make disclosure/contact it will be a small group of people coming together to get their mind blown, get strapped up in their seats and then the strongest thing they couldn't even imagine shows up in front of them...
I imagine a lot of screams and "momey!" weeps. Even if they're prepared and there for exactly that occasion.

Mk-ultra continued under a different name I bet. But how much can they actually have achieved? Did it maybe take a different turn than the conspiracies suggest?
Is it more investigating the phenomena which are rooted in the mind?
How the hell can there be a connection with our mind and something completely strange like UFOs ET interdimensional beings etc?
I mean would that be the same investigation?

You can post here whatever you like it's your thread. And I always enjoy it.



After all I think that has to be the first step, make sure everybody knows it's real.
If the other doesn't want to show us more than there is nothing we can do about it. Collect scraps and pieces, stories with a core of truth and tons of bs.
I want this so much. And for some reason I still strongly believe there is technology and nuts and bolts ...real stuff to be seen.
Besides all the mind control, or perception control or whatever we end up calling the other stuff.

a reply to: Peeple

You are spot on! I hate having to explain everything from the beginning.

Here’s two things from Betty and Barney Hill that I find hilarious. They asked, “Who is this Jesus you keep referring to??” and “What do you mean by ‘time’?” The last comment made William S. Burrows howl with laughter (according to Spin magazine).

Bitchin’ Machines is better than non-corporal entities! At least we can talk to the drivers! I think that is the first step anyways. The nuts and bolts is probably us. The other would be viewed as “magic” with their tech...

Drinking, forgot what my point was!

Later! Need to go home!

a reply to: TEOTWAWKIAIFF

The variety is just ...stunning. I mean there really also could be many different stories running together.
Me personally I believe time is come when everybody goes mad. That's a big part of the story. We don't have a way to deal with that. It never ever is the greys probing for dna thing.
Yet many are stuck on that. It's like the owl. All we see is it using a bird like a drone to show up at the time where our internal lifestory is at that point where it brings it in connection with the greys. If that's planned. Maybe they mess with us on a more moment to moment basis and it isn't preplanned, but I don't think that's possible.
But it changes lifes and all experiencers deserve to know who is messing with us.
And I bet the variety of sources would make it clear, what's up with our consciousness death experiences, which part is leaving, how much we miss, maybe they got a toy for us so we can see what we with our light based vision usually can't perceive? (I will ask if I ever meet one in person)
These other dimensions have to be somewhere.

Whatever they are or the people drawing them thought they we're, that's the same type of being I saw.
Others would say it looks like greys. Ghosts.

What is my point? Who cares, right? It's all worth nothing as long as there is no imminent reason to deal with it.
But there is. Just that those who feel it first get drugged into submission and then have to live with being crazy. Nobody will take this serious until they had their own touch of the woo.
Me personally I also still hope I get my very own spaceship or a whole fleet.
But that's a different story. Useless because we can't figure out what we could do to make it do just one big show off.
Gawd that would be awesome. All clouds look like statues, or some kind of action figure. They all go nuts screaming blue beam.
After that and as everybody is already outside the UFO flight show starts, we got orbs, discs, cigars, black triangle all out playing between the crazy shaped clouds.
That alone also wouldn't exactly give us the home adress of it. But it would be a nice start.

a reply to: TEOTWAWKIAIFF

Why are you answering in the birthday thread? Here is where the magic happens. I tell you what I want, just for fun, as lifetime achievment.

I want a very slow disclosure. I want them to pick me up, bring me to the nearest tv station and I read what they told me to, probably something like "hi, we are x we found you because y, we picked who we did as our official contact, deal with it. There is more to come and we got presents too. Don't try to shoot us down our protective shield just reflects the rockets and bullets back at you."
Shortly after that I talk to the United Nations and explain why war in a situation like this is highly risky. While my fleet hovers basically everywhere.
Then I would call out to whoever is interested in batteries (alien high end stuff) to the first workshop, where all those cute little scientists take the technology apart and each try to understand collectively how it works. I see a bright future for Australia, sun loaded battery export. With a hint to improve the solar panels.
And there would be Lotterie where you can win an evening with me where I talk about what it's like to meet the aliens. Those who want to meet one stay in the room, the rest and leaves and we meet one of those fellows. In person!
Of course I would also make the usage of oil and other oil biased chemicals illegal, but I tell you that half a year in advance.

That's obviously something I really dream about a lot. I want that so bad. Whatever it turns out to be, I want to bring disclosure and proof to the world.
Easy, right? Just have to find a way to make it do what I want, with it possibly being one or more entire civilisations.
If you can solve that mystery...

a reply to: Peeple

Hey Peeps! I've been busy and a bit under the weather (as they say). I've done a couple drive-by postings only, all this week.

I like your plan! I would like to go to a cocktail hour and just be a wallflower watching all the attendee's minds, against their will and wishes, grow bigger as reality sinks in: we are not alone!

I bet there are already contingencies in place for disclosure. Specific roles already assigned to individuals probably at the UN level, if not the US government level.

But hey, it is ET's prerogative to chose their person!

I would vote for you! Sure would beat some stiff shirt, NASA clone with no sense of humor.

Imagine taking EBE out to the desert with camera crews and have them say, "Mr. President. Tear down this wall!" My god, I need a beer soon! That is one of the nice things about being sick and not drinking, I am light weight again! A cheep date! Two beers and done.

I think that ET would have a sense of humor. They would have to to put up with us! Backwards, naked monkeymen we are!

a reply to: TEOTWAWKIAIFF

Poor baby! You're having a cold?
Let's just for fun, start another five to seven days countdown. Day one today. And maybe it's really all much stranger. I always feel my mind falls back to the ET thing because it's easiest to grasp. But in all reports it messes with our perception. Maybe they can even manipulate time?
I can't Imagine a dimension without time. I know it probably exists but I can't imagine it.
I also fall back on the it's all technology path. Maybe it's not. Maybe it's just how these beings are. There normal existence is maybe already magic to us.
I mean if they're from different dimensions and just found us somehow because we are like atoms to them... that's crap, but you get what I mean I guess it's all a lot stranger.