Baddogma's Other Meta Cafe- Polite Discussions About Scientific Mysticism and General Weirdness

a reply to: Peeple

Ah, thanks for the clarity. I'm relieved that it was not a Heavens Gate thing (really bad way to go with lousy foot ware!)

The real deal UFOs have interaction with individuals. Are we so simplistic to read??

Today, the news hit MSM about the Navy fighter pilot encounter with a UFO. Nobody is paying attention. They could do full disclosure and people would not care. Not until one lands on the Whitehouse lawn but even then that will be photo op.

Slow disclosure? Seeing a craft drop 80,000 feet is pretty cool!

a reply to: TEOTWAWKIAIFF

Well I'm no expert in UFO sightings, I had one. But I'm amongst people more often than I'd like to be and from what I observe with most of them is they're one mu brainwork from vegetables. Can't be hard to read'em.

I'm still struggling with it but my woo experience seems to be more from the consciousness/godly type. I just like aliens more, because all that religious stuff just makes me angry and loose my faith in humanity even more.
Those goody-two-shoes - hate them
Love and Light people - hate them
The others just try to hide their anger and hate behind religious dogma and I hate that too.
I got a lot of hate it seems, but funny part is I don't. I just use the phrase, but I'm really emotionally middleground as one can be. I don't get excited much in both directions.
The only thing that really bothers me is stupidity and that's way to common to not learn how to deal with that. I just ignore that actually.
But that's beyond hate.

a reply to: Peeple

Funny, was talking about stupidity and common sense last night from my bar stool. Actually, my buddy was. He said, "Why do you think I am out so many nights of the week? If my older brother wasn't around so much I would stay comfortably at home and drink beer there!"



He then provided a six step proof for circular reasoning in his brother demonstrating that his brother called himself an idiot! You cannot ignore that! Even the people listening in on our conversation were laughing.

It was a glorious rant! Sprinkled with bon mot by yours truly we put on quiet the spectacle. For a slow Monday night it was what the doctor ordered.

a reply to: TEOTWAWKIAIFF

In case we don't read eachother anymore before the holidays, merry christmas and a happy new year.

Ha! I just gave you an earworm as present. You're welcome.

a reply to: Peeple

Hehehe!

Funny, was going to send you one of these kind of posts too! I'll be around but mostly offline. Need a bit of time to just not work and do some reading. I've got a stack of books sitting there. I feel bad for ignoring them. Nothing special or even related to ATS but to sit down, take my time, and enjoy words and thoughts from someone else. Way better than TV or binge watching some show.

Kind of a Winter Solstice type. Already enjoying it as the 12 Days that lead up are feted at the Brew pub by special releases of barleywine each day. We are on day 11. Which means the solstice is close at hand. We will start gaining light and turn that corner towards summer once again!

Frohe Wintersonnenwende, baby!

a reply to: TEOTWAWKIAIFF

after the earworm: have an earorgasm.

And I love this, maybe you would too?
joy! constructive, for the collective, from the goodness of my elf heart. some sucker has to, right?
I'm like ISIS that way. with a hint of german. but ey right? Who's perfect? And I defend unpopular cases until I die.

JOy
jokes
the good ones are funny because they're true.

a reply to: Peeple

More my style...



Not about you but my general feeling about this time of year.

a reply to: TEOTWAWKIAIFF

Skater Rock. Can't say I'm surprised. Snowboarder are skater on snow. With a hint of post punk. It fits you.

a reply to: TEOTWAWKIAIFF

Let's talk synchronicity. I guess I figured that out. We actively look for feedback in the world. We communicate less face to face and our story is very different. From eachother. Everybody around us. But we are all having the same complexity. The less we touch, the further we are apart, like in a web of coordinates a 3d web. Our crossingpoints with the world define our story. Timing is somehow relevant it works out perfectly for me, to "be at the right time at the right place".
Synchronicity it's that easy. How does time work?
Right?

a reply to: TEOTWAWKIAIFF

Dear TEOT, I really like our meta-pen-friendship.

Serious. If meta means modern, a little more spooked by the foreign. How can anyone be certain about anything anymore? Mine #ed arund a lot with entertainment, from book to life football german soccer, whatever. And even once wrote for me on my laptop, while posting here. Internet sites changed. People got hostile. I was just enjoying the day. Really weird # happened.
Point is "through electronic devices". Even a Xbox game as if it was made for me, "it" was able to control every character flying or running around. And books. I even somehow got a newspaper that tied perfectly into the story. And the people riding their bycicles beside the house, the horses, the bees, the butterflies, they all behaved perfectly to tell me a story.
That means controlled everything man.
Or someone stumbled on something and they're also involved now? I got a few surprising suspicions.
The Bank?

This goes nicely with the breeding talking parts I just had in another thread. At some point you have to name the points you're trying to make. If it comes natural to me it might be that way to others too?

What I don't know is what "bank" actually means. But I think I know a few sons in certain clubs. If I had to draw coordinates...


Also regarding UFO I saw two lights Chasing eachother, flying zigzags fast and stoppen and flacher lights at eachother and zigzagged away. I was in the mountains with a colleague and friend of mine. One female person.
She saw it too.
That's like the tip of the iceberg of messed up events.
Followed by my waking up with marks around my wrists as if I was beeing handcuffed, with things that gave me an allergic reaction. And a scare under my left arm.
That and the three guys I met when I had my accident with the horsey. NDE? What were they doing there standing in my way?

a reply to: TEOTWAWKIAIFF

Dear TEOT,
today I had a "wtf- hold it!?!" moment. Would we have the cultural ability to adapt in a not submissive way. If it were true and there are two aliens fighting over us. God and the devil. Jesus vs Lucifer. The hindu stuff...
We wouldn't have the balls to say "Thank you, we will be our own representatives.", right?
One side would freak out yelling "god/jesus/King Arthur...", the other half would fear the devils play.
Submission or fight.
Because we got unresolved issues or we wouldn't be so divided.



I also got that the difference between mental health and illness is the ability to move on. I'm scratching the hole topic once I had it. Marriage? Check. No need to do it twice. What I'm focusing on is a flexible, huge, shapeshifting goal.
It captivates through its simplicity: what the hell is going on here?


I'm walking a very thin line. One step closer to madness tgan I would like to be. I'm not running around "preaching the gospel" just here on ATS is my valve for all these crazy thoughts. I used to have an inbox for that, but that got super lame. Now I have to let my kind of crazy thoughts about how it works, what the nuances on the borders are, which area of thought I am currently entertaining... I have to let it out somewhere.
A little bit crazy, but I tell myself at least I never get stuck in entertaining possibilities. The internet is alive? I wouldn't say yes I wouldn't say no. Future? The same. Evolving ghosts and natural phenomena? Who knows. Even simulation?
No. Simulation is one step too far. Holograms or something similiar, maybe. But that doesn't mean everything is simulated.
But I love that here we can talk about those crazy ideas.

(I wrote a lot, maybe you start from the top?)

a reply to: Peeple

xkcd.com - The True Meaning of Christmas.

I saw that and thought of you and this place! The idea of a "meta Christmas", seriously, too funny. Then your synchronicities (synchron I cities!!), the zig-zag lights, handcuffs (??), horse accident (??), three (wise?) men, and it all kind of makes sense in a Peep's kind of way!

I had no such fun, woo-type things happen. It was wine, Christmas ham, naps, 'Merican football (boring stuff), and a couple movies. And playing with a doggie and tiny (cutest thing ever! Really small. Orange. Finally stopped being scared when I looked in her way right before I left. Feral) kitty with no name!

No computer, no phone, no email, no people talking, no distraction from the relaxation. Actual conversation on topics with debate or polite corrections, unlike here at times. I even began to dream of music again. Like songs, lyrics, guitar riffs, melodies, etc. It has been so long! That, to me, is a good sign that "taking a break" is a good thing for the soul/psyche. I didn't even read or play guitar! I usually do a crappy version of the Dance of Sugar Plum Fairy every year. Barely even watched the news. Amazing, really.

A city mouse and a country mouse in a Very Meta Christmas Story!



PS - I haven't heard Shakespeare's Sister in forever! One more post to catch up on! Then I may ask for details...

a reply to: Peeple

Part I

"Either/Or" logic is too limiting. It is a spectrum of possibilities including the ridiculous, no effin' way ones (every now and then). The math crap I am looking says, "continuous wave" that we "describe" as "discreet" or "individual" units. It is sometimes too simplistic to be either/or.

As we row, row (ruht roh?! lol), row, our boat, merrily down the stream, either or will work but both are generally better.

Part II

Mental health/illness is rowing with only one oar! You get stuck in cycles (calling it, "bipolar" reinforces the "either/or" logic). Or maybe that is how I see it.

Part III

This is a wonderful place to trial balloon ideas. Or to shore up those ideas by being challenged in your beliefs. I typically am learning by explaining something to others. It works sometimes and other times it fails. Oh well. Better than not trying at all.



You are on a horse. What color? (It could be symbolic). How did you happen upon 3 guys in your path? How hurt did you get? Did you swear at them?

Threes: 2 zigzagging lights, hand cuffs (lol!), scar; horse accident (3 guys); seems we are missing one, synchronicities.

Seem Universe has sent you a message! Maybe a couple, or three! ETA: 3. That is how it works! Can I ask you a question? I'm gonna ask anyway! "When you think of those three that I highlighted above, do they swirl around your head? Makes it tingle? Like a good coffee rush?"

a reply to: TEOTWAWKIAIFF

Meta Christmas... that hurts because it's true. "What does it all mean!" has become the quest.

I.
I said that too, to itisnowagain I think, the particle wave duality, we tend to look to much at the particle and forget the wave.
It was in a "now conversation". After I had some Alan Watts. Eastern philosophy for dummies.


II.
I think illness is at least when no one around you knows anymore what you are talking about. And it doesn't produce any results anymore. When you start to suffer from your stuck-ness. It's all in motion too. The human mind.

III.
Baloon ideas, reality scissors,...
You provide so much with so little effort.


The accident was a few years ego, I don't own that horsey anymore. It was a grandchild of Pilot and looked exactly like him, a smart, spoiled, amazing diva, with a good sense of humor.
And scared to death when he had to go on a ride alone.
The three guys we're between me and death, I already told the story? The "do you want to continue?" in a grey area. Maybe some grey alien contacts are near death experience, some breathing problem during sleep?

Hi! Welcome back to the crazy mothership.

a reply to: Peeple

The alternative to quantum mechanics is the pilot wave theory!

What is it with you and animals? Lola the bashful, son of Pilot scared to do solo runs... Is that a trend? Are there more?

Fun to be back! Of course, I get back on here and start having "problem solving" dreams, again. Maybe my chip could not be sensed when I was out of town? lol! Maybe the secret space patrol have Christmas off too? That is why you saw the lights. Just saying.

And I am bouncing out of here yet again for a few days! In case I don't log in (I'll be in town most like, so I tend to get bored and will probably check in) until next week...

Happy New Year!

a reply to: TEOTWAWKIAIFF

Hey Baby, it's alright whenever you happen to stumble in here, enjoy your time. Celebrate. It's that time of the year and each to their own.
Boom Boom Boom how do you like it?
Probably gets played in every ... anyhoo

Phantastic horse. Gawd did I adore him! There is just something about the bond with a horse that is phantastic. Wonderful, funny, adorable creatures. And impressive. That's a plus.

a reply to: TEOTWAWKIAIFF

Excuse me rambling on.
It's a tough job, I don't feel qualified for it. Digging out the truth. If there would be any shortcuts I would like to know. But who could say, right?
What I do want, really with all my heart is disclosure/contact for everybody. With a huge party. I still believe there is a physical aspect to it. Some kind of technology.
It's commonly accepted tzey increased activity during WWII and the nuclear phase, right? I want to know so bad I would hit that button. If I were Kim.
Maybe they reset the target, make it return to sender? Uh oh. Hihi. Wild speculation and far out what-ifs are fun.
Without my UFO fleet in broad daylight I ain't going home. That's a fact. I always wanted to command my own too. Uaghaaha. Full of hackers and bot programmers and trolls. With phazers to stun. (I wrote that the fanciest way I can imagine it could be written, is that right?)
Or a web they can throw out to completely immobilize you. Serves up to ten people.
If I could ru-uh-hul the world. Lalala...

Happy New Year my loving MetaCafetaerians!

a reply to: TEOTWAWKIAIFF

Sorry I use this as high-meta-thinking-in-progress mailbox. If you or any one feels at any time you want to tell me where I am wrong and why that would be great.

Also today is my birthday and the stuff I write here is nothing I feel I want to take to the "public boards". So I pleasure myself with some rambling and since it's my birthday let me make it about me and my stuff a bit. More my current deduction of it all.

I think I go back to be the Queen of the Solar System. That was previously Milky Way but I think for now I can live with just this bundle.
My final offer. Given how #ed we are, that would be a deal I can live with. And I wouldn't trust anyone else to do the job right.
And I wouldn't occupy or rule here on Earth but I need you all to know that we are dealing with generally harmless but in case of confrontation with our current technology invincible intelligence.
That's still all I got after four years with that crap. "Intelligence" ...talking about narrowing it down huh?
So yeah that's #ing depressing.
Working on something scientifically you can't test is frustrating. Unscientific no matter how hard you try.
You can't make prediction you can't make it do anything there is next to nothing to be found material wise that would hold up to any standards...
Doesn't mean it's not interesting or there's nothing to be found.

As sign they mean us no harm, I demand a fleet of ships under my control. Sorry but not just for observation. I have to take over, military wise. There can be no question that every war or war like action will have irreversible consequences.
They like me most. It's fate, as Queen of the Solar System it is my duty. And my pleasure.

More to come, sorry nobody has to read it.

A good demonstration of the delayed-choice experiment is given by a two-path interferometer, the Mach-Zehnder interferometer (MZI). Our discussion is restricted to the case where a single photon is directed to the MZI followed by two detectors. According to the traditional perspective, the nature of the single photon inside the MZI depends on whether or not the second BS is in place. If the second BS is absent, the single photon then travels along just one arm, showing the particle nature.

On the contrary, when the researchers inserted the second BS, the single photon traveled along both arms, exhibiting the wave nature. However, in the REIN (REalistic INterpretation, as opposed to Copenhagen or pilot-wave interpretation), the first BS splits the single photon into two sub-waves traveling along the two arms, whether the second BS is inserted or not. That is, the photon in an MZI is an extended and separated object that exists simultaneously at both arms. In this interpretation, if the second BS is absent, the two sub-waves are directed, respectively, to the two detectors, and with a probability independent of their relative phase, the measurement collapses them into a click in one detector. This is the particle nature of the single photon.

phys.org - Exploring the realistic nature of the wave function in quantum mechanics.

Again, phys.org is trolling me!

I had to read the article twice. No, they never explain what the "BS" stands for! I understand what they are trying to say, but here at the MetaCafé, we all know "BS" as "belief system" ala Robert Anton Wilson! But this press release speaks volumes!

To summarize: If you travel by yourself, with only your BS, you will always remain just a particle! You need another BS to become fluidic and behave as a phase-corrected wave! And, in order to actually exist in the really, real world, you need both BSes! Or, with out more BS you would not exist!!

The press release is from China (Beijing). The acronym stands for "beam splitter" (I think) but is more enjoyable as the superimposition with "belief system" until I looked and collapsed (on the floor from laughing so hard!!!)

Thanks phys.org for the tickle!