Barron Trump Thought Beheaded Image was his Dad

originally posted by: TinySickTears
i wonder if the head looked more fake than it already did would the fake outrage be the same?

10 * realism = fake outrage

a reply to: windword
Come on. There is no comparison of the images of the Obamas to that GoT/ISIS # Griffin was peddling.

originally posted by: kosmicjack
a reply to: windword
Come on. There is no comparison of the images of the Obamas to that GoT/ISIS # Griffin was peddling.

Does that matter to the children?

originally posted by: kosmicjack
a reply to: windword
Come on. There is no comparison of the images of the Obamas to that GoT/ISIS # Griffin was peddling.

how many members of the fake outrage here in this 34 page thread love game of thrones?

just take a stab

originally posted by: Deaf Alien

originally posted by: kosmicjack
a reply to: windword
Come on. There is no comparison of the images of the Obamas to that GoT/ISIS # Griffin was peddling.

Does that matter to the children?

or the republicans pimping that image out in their new ad cycle

originally posted by: kosmicjack
a reply to: windword
Come on. There is no comparison of the images of the Obamas to that GoT/ISIS # Griffin was peddling.

So, hanging dummies that resemble the first black President have no other connotations?

a reply to: TinySickTears

So sad. Plenty of folks have expressed equal outrage and/or treatment for all the presidents' kids, which you have not acknowledged. The only faux outrage I see is yours. For the same exact reason that I applied to the Republicans using the ad for their agenda. If you were really outraged for Obama's children, then you would be just as outraged for Barron. If it's wrong for one it's wrong for all.

And for the record, I looked and could not find any comparable situation for Malia and Sasha in which they saw and were horrified by any effigy of their father. Anyone is welcome to provide further information however.

But the worst part to me is that if we err on the side of caution, and Barron wasn't hurt, well, no harm, no foul. But you give lip service to the fact that you may very well be wrong, and still act as if you are not in a very ugly combination of ignorance and arrogance -- throwing any caution to the wind, and any respect or humanity for Barron or any child. And whether you are right or wrong, you are only inflicting more harm and compounding the problem.

At this point, I am also very disturbed that you have devoted so much time and energy to this thread to keep beating up on a kid. I have to "tend my thread," and I will, but I'm very disturbed by this ugly tone.

a reply to: Greven

It's all bad, no doubt. All bad. This is just as bad as a noose or a hanging effigy.

Some, however, is more conceptual, symbolic or protest-y. This was clearly psycho & graphic. Especially within the context of "beheading" in the year 2017. Just as bad as the lynching in effigy of a black POTUS.

This is where tribal politics fails...pathetic attempts at equivocation. #ing sad. Just have some decency and denounce it all.

originally posted by: windword
a reply to: filthyphilanthropist

This is different. Stuff is getting out of hand.

No, it's not different. To say that Barron's trauma is more important, relevant or serious than the trauma that Malia and Sasha went through, with all the violent and disgusting things that were done their parents image is blatant hypocrisy.

Did Barron really see it? I don't know, he seems pretty sheltered. Anyway, by the way his father brags about how "cyber" savvy Barron is, you'd think, especially with his fancy private education, that he'd know the difference between political satire and reality......you know, being the president's kid and all! You'd think his parents would have prepped him for this kind of stuff.

And remember, the only reason we're talking about Barron Trump, and not Kathy Griffin, is because his parents trotted him out in the spotlight so that they could use him to push their very well known agenda to silence free speech.

You're pretty good about putting words in people's mouths. I didn't say that. I noted the obvious difference in imagery, and I subtly referred to the fact that the Obamas wisely sheltered their kids from that sort of stuff. I'm not so sure they saw that because I don't think their parents afforded them the opportunity to. I'm not arguing some of your points other than the lack of relevance.

This is different. The anti-Trump sentiment is different. Regan was depicted with bullet holes in his forehead... It's different.

a reply to: Deaf Alien

I'm aware.

It's still different. Obama and Trump are not the only ones depicted in violent ways. Remember Regan? It's still different, and it isn't just the bloody head.

a reply to: Deaf Alien

Also, the Obamas were good parents who often touted how the protected their children from the political stuff. I doubt the saw it at the time.

a reply to: filthyphilanthropist

The anti-Trump sentiment is different.

I'm not seeing it. I'm seeing blinding hypocrisy. I'll guess that we'll just have to agree to disagree and acknowledge the divide.

originally posted by: filthyphilanthropist
a reply to: Deaf Alien

Also, the Obamas were good parents who often touted how the protected their children from the political stuff. I doubt the saw it at the time.

I doubt Barron saw Kathy Griffin's picture at the time either.

a reply to: kosmicjack
It's an idiotic expression and she rightly got fired for it.

There have been plenty of 'bloody' effigies in the past. There are past pictures of bloody decapitated heads of other presidents/politicians. This is not new.

Pretending it hasn't happened before, or that this particular effigy is worse than others, is somewhat peculiar. This particular instance seems to have been widely spread, though, through social media and selfish corporations posing as news sources trying to get ratings.

Further, I see in this thread the idea amongst some that this moron speaks for people on her 'side' of politics, who have thoroughly disavowed her.

Holy crap.. Trump's kid may have had a few seconds of *gasp* horror at stupidly thinking that was really his dad's head. Which I doubt. I think it was stupidly wrong, but you guys are milking it to ridiculous proportions.

Considering all the children for whom Trump is cutting support in many ways.. who are hungry, sick, less educated, in terror daily.. I think I can probably get over Trump's sheltered little billionaire's boy "trauma." And to think.. a few years ago, when here.. the 1% were condemned and hated. And now.. apparently, one of their number is touted as the 2nd coming. Baffling and sad.

a reply to: kosmicjack

I couldn't agree more. The fact our Prez is an unorthodox leader of the free world aside, this effigy was just low rent. A cheap shot at trying to get relevance by a talent-less D Lister who nobody cares about.

spit.

originally posted by: TinySickTears

originally posted by: kosmicjack
a reply to: windword
Come on. There is no comparison of the images of the Obamas to that GoT/ISIS # Griffin was peddling.

how many members of the fake outrage here in this 34 page thread love game of thrones?

just take a stab

I hate game of thrones because of all the senseless killing in it. Its not for story its for spectacle alone. I liek how SHADBASE has made parodies of the characters as well. Especially dragon girl being screwed by her dragon. HIlarious.

originally posted by: Nyiah
Something stinks here, and it's not just Kathy (she's an established pile of s# already)

His reaction just doesn't add up too good unless he's got something cognitive going on we don't know about (autistic or whatever the going theory is lately) And to beat the what-iffers to the point, no, if someone pulled that with a mock-up of one of my parents' heads at 11, I wouldn't have fallen for it being anything other than weird, because I wasn't that oblivious at 11. (I also wasn't calling my mom "mommy" at 11, either, stopped doing that in kindergarten)
How the hell would he think it's his dad's actual head if they're supposedly in touch with ol' Don anyway, doesn't he bother to make the time to regularly call home or Skype or something? It kind of makes you wonder.

I was doing Halloween costumes gorier than that prop head at his age, WTF kind of bubble are they keeping him in if he's average in the membrane to flip his ish? Has he never seen a horror flick? Never sneak-played a friend's gory video game? Never dressed up for Halloween? Never ventured out for it? God forbid he see's that gross pig-Don picture over in the jokes thread, he'd be liable to assume someone spliced his head on there.
And no, it's not Baron's fault in any way. It's the fault of helicopter parenting keeping him bubble-wrapped in some delusion that he'll never encounter the mean, the weird, and the vile. This is what happens to the overly-sheltered kids, they end up not being able to handle one iota of anything.

Something just doesn't smell right about this. Either he's got issues they haven't disclosed (in which case, being unable to tell the difference between prop & dad's head is more explainable) or Mel's blowing it very out of proportion.

Stay with me, people are missing a huge part of this...

I admit it is very possible the details of the story were embellished but imagine it from the other side. You have a kid who has been sheltered all his life because before the White House, just being in Manhattan, the son and wife of one of the top ten names anyone on earth would associate with the big apple- you are almost as recognizable to New Yorkers when out with your mother as when out with dad which is a certainty. And Melania is sensible enough, I don't get the impression she is some hands off mimosa and vocodin housewife so I have no problem thinking he does not see tons of violence. Heck, I was 11 exactly when my parents took my sister and me to my first R movie (Speed although at 8 they rented me The Bodyguard) and sure we had violent games like Contra but a white pixel flyin at a pink stick figure fired from a line doesnt compare but I can say kids with money like that get busy with much more than sitting around playing video games.

Now look at the real big piece that makes it unique. Like it or not, imagine what types of things the poor boy must have begun hearing at ten and hears regularly whether the First Lady thinks it appropriate or not because the secret service insists. I am sure he hears that his father more than any other modern president faces the threat of murder. I am sure he has been told or gets the picture that he is not like twerking smoking Obama kids but that his kidnapping would serve a purpose to countless political opposition groups. I am sure while Chelsea Clinton for example did some sort of drill while she was first daughter once or once a year, he has been put through multiple scenarios and has been made to repeat it all once or twice again even. And lastly, he cannot possibly be allowed free roam of the TV and internet since every other channel 24-7 is no joke some anti trump propaganda and the internet, my God it is on every page something from disagreeable to incendiary to downright illegal threatening and malicious and I'm sure of what he can access, he gets the feeling that his very name, not just the Don, but HIS name, Moms name, big sisters name...it must feel like most of the country hates them all and I am sure his family has prepared him emotionally as best as they can for anything.

Now tell me that an eleven year old who is escorted to the bathroom by men with guns and who is told by family friends schoolmates soldiers officers etc that his father is in a very dangerous 24-7 position who already survived one assassination attempt (near attempt but believe me if its your family in crosshairs its the real thing)...tell me that that kid who lives and breathes a life of ever on the watch for life threatening danger and I mean unlike any presidents kid ever dreamed of worrying about where even your everyday man on the street or big name calls for your dad to be killed and cheers his attackers cannot be overwhelmed by it all and quite possibly even prepared for the worst news to come at any moment and that he couldn't have thought for a split second, "oh my God, they told me it would happen and it finally has! Mommy!" Oh, and I call my mom mama and mommy to this day Cuz that's who she is, my mommy. Private message me for my address if we need to duke it out anybody...

a reply to: Boadicea

Aww,little baron is starting young, herding the flock of sheaple i see..like father like son.

Kathy griffin is sick & twisted. She goes too far with her 'jokes'.
Beheadings are not anything to laugh about. Nor is killling or threatening a president, or acting like ISIS. She should be charged.