Question for 9/11 Conspiracy Theorists

a reply to: Schmoe1223


first off...my stand it wasn't "our Government"...it was Factions within-our-government (now said to be Deep State


also the 'perps' were not just USA personnel, Any Number of Other Intelligence groups were in the Orchestration of this complex operation that was in the 'subtle minds' of a group focused on guiding the world on a collision course with
Islam (As per the Pike Prophecies of 3 World-Wars)


The 'EGG' of the idea was conceived around 1969, possibly by persons in Soviet-&-Israeli-&-USA+British Intelligence... who were able to act as controllers of radical-zealot-Muslims willing to be martyrs in using passenger jets as missiles on civilian targets at sometime in the future...

a reply to: Informer1958

They are the only people who have the real motives, and the Powers to do it. We all know most wars are "bankers" wars.

See, I think that's putting the cart before the horse, in a fundamental way.

There used to be a factoid in general circulation, stating that there had only been one year in the 20th Century during which a war was not being fought on the planet. If I remember rightly, it turned out to be inaccurate, because there was no such year.

And I think the five centuries before that may have been slightly turbulent too.

Come to think of it, war seems to be almost permanent doesn't it?

To my mind, it's no more remarkable that entire dynasties profiteer from war than it is that kids sell home-made lemonade at the roadside. As in, it's a very simple and almost failsafe way to turn a profit. But... that doesn't mean that the kid has to grow her own lemons, or that the bankers have to start any wars themselves - they happen naturally, all the time.

a reply to: Informer1958

Now, go from Rothschilds to your support of conspiracy collapse theories for WTC 1,2, 6, and 7. Your support for no planes at the pentagon and shanksville.

How you think a culture of jihad backed by rich Middle Eastern interests and governments just as powerful as the Rothschilds carrying out 9/11 is less credible than your theory.....

a reply to: Informer1958

If not then it is your "opinions and nothing more. I have no problems of anyone given their "opinions," but do not call your "opinions" facts, when you cannot back them up with some credibility.

It is a fact, that most American politicians are controlled by the PTB behind our government. That Power is the Federal Reserve.

Yet, you failed to provided any proof to back your "fact."

Do you have any credibal sources to back your facts?

Possibilities are numerous:

1) - Russian FSB. The Soviet's war in Afghanistan is what broke them. Getting the USA into a similar war would be a good way for Putin to bolster Russia's prominence as a world power by reducing the USA's power.

The US government would not want to admit it because it would make peace with Russia nearly impossible.


2) - Organized Crime. WTC 7 supposedly housed the main servers for the SEC. If the SEC were close to finding a big enough amount of illegal money, any number of groups would consider killing 4,000 people if they thought they could pull it off.

3) - Rogue Mossad. Wanting to force the USA into the middle east.

4) -Illuminati/Bilderberger One of their stated goals is to destroy the concept of "nation states". Causing a huge division in American society that leads to a rapid decrease in patriotism....? Seems like it worked.

5) - A small group of successful Military Contractors. Billions have been made off this war. People in that line of business aren't always moral people. War has a way of eroding ones' conscience.

originally posted by: neutronflux
a reply to: Informer1958

Can you prove the owners of the WTC were not required to increase their insurance against terrorists because of past history and increased chance of attacks.

If Aegis had a hint of credible evidence of sabotage in their lawsuit to prevent payout to the WTC 7 owners, don't you think the lawsuit would have focused on sabotage by the owners. Not negligent and improper building design by Aegis's independent investigation of WTC 7.

Conspiracists always ignoring the obvious....

It would only focus of that if the lawyers believed it was a viable strategy. Quite a lot of times a lawyer will tell an innocent client to plead out, because they know they can't win.

Unless they could actually prove foul play, that would not be a sound strategy at all. If they only wanted to raise speculation, the judge would throw it out before the jury ever saw it.

a reply to: bloodymarvelous

Rogue Mossad?

How about front line, mainstream Mossad?


Over 15 years of research, beginning essentially on Day One, including 2 books, has led Christopher Bollyn (married to a Jewish woman) to conclude that Israeli interest fingerprints are all over the events of the day. He makes a very compelling case.

www.bollyn.com...

a reply to: Salander

Is "married to a Jewish woman" supposed to be the "Good Housekeeping" seal of approval that he is not full of crap?

originally posted by: neutronflux
a reply to: Informer1958


I thought you said the NWO was behind 9/11?

Now it's the CIA?

Seems your stories change as needed to stay relevant?

Never say orange jail suit......

It pretty well had to have CIA involvement. There were CIA, and, I think FBI, offices in those buildings, and the demolition would have required tons of explosives. That really means that the workers who installed them would have been working some time and would need to be sure they did not have security on their backs. CIA will undoubtedly have NWO links.

a reply to: Barliman

CIA will undoubtedly have NWO links.

No one has ever shown how a NWO could exist.
Let alone that it does exist.

Civilized society is always attacked by lesser people that it disenfranchises.
Therefore a NWO could never exist.

Look at the poor inner city people in the US.
What reason do they have to 'go along' with the NWO? There is nothing in it for them.

Afghanistan has been in constant war for decades.
Are they going along with NWO?

People who believe that NWO exists typically have low education and crappy jobs.
They feel the world is stacked against them.
The root cause of their situation is wrong decision after wrong decision.

Example:
John Q Dufus has a low end job.
Every once and a while he has some money left over after a paycheck.
Does he put it in a bank for an emergency? No !
Now days he gets a tattoo.
That is what's called a 'red neck savings account'.
But in his mind TPTB have set him up for failure.

a reply to: cardinalfan0596

You might say that. More importantly, it demonstrates that the "anti-Semitic" label does not apply.

a reply to: Salander

It does nothing of the sort. It just shows how willing you are to accept a load of crap provided there are proper "modifiers".

a reply to: cardinalfan0596

LOL, I accepted that load of crap in those early days when I believed the official account of what really happened. I learned the error of my ways, but it appears you have not yet grasped how deeply you've been deceived.

Bollyn's work has been as good as, but more thorough, than the work of Ruppert or Griffin.

a reply to: Schmoe1223

I basically said I wouldn't put anything past our government, but if they indeed perpetrated 9/11, why wouldn't Osama bin Laden/al-quaida/Taliban have taken that opportunity to really drive home their idea of how evil the west is by simply saying "we didn't do it."

well... 911 was a 'False Flag'...Osama declared it was not his doing...(although He had, years later, recanted)

the AQ is a proxy army of the CIA, the Taliban/Mujahadeen were mercinaries...likely frontloaded with CIA placed & trained operatives...
so --- it stands to reason that the 'False Flag' went all the way to accepting-the-blame for 911 as an extension of the False-Flag

the 15 Saudi terrorists out of the 19 hijackers taking part in the 4 aircraft crashes...by itself tells the clear minded person that AQ in Iraq or Taliban in Afghanistan nor Saddam Hussein in Iraq, were not the Perps at all

the shadow government/ Deep State/ Globalist-&-Banker Elites/ the hidden power behind the elected officials were the Conspirators who instigated 911 along with the War Hawks-NeoCons inside both foreign & domestic intelligence Agencies who made & allowed 911 to operate to the mission's conclusion

just my guess looking at the facts with special glasses on

a reply to: Salander

Bollyn, Ruppert and Griffin belong in the fiction section right next to Mikey Moore.

a reply to: St Udio

That 15 of the 19 were from Saudi Arabia does not meant that the Taliban did not hide Osama or that the hijackers probably trained at Salman Pak under the tutelage of Abu Nidal just outside of Baghdad. Do your special glasses come filled with alcohol?

originally posted by: cardinalfan0596
a reply to: St Udio

let's break this down:
A)

That 15 of the 19 were from Saudi Arabia does not meant that the Taliban did not hide Osama or that the hijackers probably trained at Salman Pak under the tutelage of Abu Nidal just outside of Baghdad.

~ This was manufactured evidence/news... What we now know of as 'Fake News'...back then the future 9-11 idea was hatched after Bojinka, ...Malaysia was the vortex of the sinister plot not Baghdad nor Babylon...

As for part B)

Do your special glasses come filled with alcohol?

~ Liquor would completely reduce the term 'Special' to the level of 'profane'...
but... what's that red kool-ade your drinking taste like ?



RE: Bojinka plot (via; BING search)

The Bojinka plot was a large-scale, three-phase attack planned by Islamists Ramzi Yousef and Khalid Sheikh Mohammed for January 1995. They planned to assassinate Pope John Paul II, blow up 11 airliners in flight from Asia to the United States

a reply to: cardinalfan0596

Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Powell & Company are in the War Criminal Section, alongside Tony Blair and many others.

You believe every word they utter, I doubt every word they utter.

a reply to: St Udio

LOL....Fox News? Not hardly. Nice try though.

a reply to: Salander

In your opinion they are in the war criminal section. In my opinion, they are politicians...its about 70-30 what comes out of their mouths depending on the topic.

They 'hate our freedoms', so that's why we destroy them, beforehand. Americans protect their freedom, around the world!

That's what Hitler argued, in ravaging Europe!!


Nobody thinks about why they have not, will not, CAN NOT, repeat the collapse. Why?

It's not possible, of course.

We can repeat what really happened, not what cannot happen in the first place.

Nobody wants the truth, even while it is blatantly obvious.

Because reality destroys the grand illusion.


Don't fear the truth.